Open 658 Making Friends and Enemies | Game Over

[Dunnstral]

Gee wiz aubrey scummy???

[Transcend]

I wanted a Transcend lynch but NO, tojam had to distract us
Actually that makes a lot of sense
VOTE: Tojam2

[Aubrey]

Where did I say Gamma was scum?

[Aubrey]

All of

Aubrey's

Transcend's votes feel tactical as opposed to genuine as in he's chessing everyone.

Fixed!

[Aubrey]

Post 919 is kinda out there though. I give you that. Tojam has been useless all game. How is it that he is all of a sudden distracting from the Transcend lynch possibility? Not that there ever was much of a chance of a Transcend lynch possibility since everyone just loves them some Transcend it seems. Throw out a few reads and votes and you instantly townread. Gotta love it.

[Aubrey]

Your*

[Burgerking]

VOTE: Flubbernugget

[Aubrey]

Let me ask you all one big question. Would scum bring forward such outlandish scenarios? Like seriously. Talk about sticking your head out there.

The Tojam and Transcend scum buddy possibility based on Tojam playing useless in order to keep votes off Transcend? Crazy. They could be scum, but I doubt this is the intended plan should they be. Scum driven by Gamma? Eh. One could argue that he is trying to cause further suspicion onto the Tojam slot in order to save his ass, but I'm gearing it more towards Town!Gamma trying to figure the game out.

The Aubrey and Transcend scum buddy possibility due to the Maria incident. Crazy. Wrong. Scum driven? doubtful. Again reads as Town!Gamma trying to figure the game out. The two of us (Aub and Tran) at the time where not being highly scum read, so it doesn't make sense for scum to try and drive a wagon on at that point. I'd see scum aiming for easier targets, lurking to a degree, or trying to gain townie points where ever possible.

The bitch-fit over gender. I consider NAI.

Defends both Ari and SAJ. hmm. Both seem like easy places to either vote or encourage votes to land on, Instead he defends them. I like this out of Gamma. I can see the argument for scum gamma in doing so, but for now I like it. I see these actions more likely to come from town than scum.

Overall I have him in a town lean. He's putting himself out there (even if his reads are lacking in my eyes). If you want me to vote him so badly, Sell me on it. So far, I'm not sold.

I'm pretty sure I've said all before in a shortened version.

[Aubrey]

Yeah. Aubrey could be scum pushing this tojam mislynch way too hard.

He's said that Gamma has been scummy.

But has he ever voted him?

NO.

All of Aubrey's votes feel tactical as opposed to genuine as in he's chessing everyone.

Wait a got dam MINUTE.

Transcend are you literally trying to fake a mis-read as scum in the hopes I town read you for it since I was wavering on my personal BK read due to him having to reconsider his read on Burger which was based upon his misread of a post from Creature instead of Burger?

You're seriously not helping my icky vibes against you.

[Aubrey]

BK at least seems more genuine. Is it a thing for scum to fake a mess up like he did during the BK vs. Burger debate?

For reference regarding what I just wrote above

[mhsmith0]

Tojam flopped as an attempt to distract from better scum

Why would tojam do that? Like, if he gets flipped scum, then that's only going to create potential connections for his buddies to get outed, and condense the game since scum are going to shoot a townie tonight. have you ever seen a goon self-destruct to "protect" another goon in a mafia game D1? Like, ever?

[Gamma Emerald]

Tojam flopped as an attempt to distract from better scum

Why would tojam do that? Like, if he gets flipped scum, then that's only going to create potential connections for his buddies to get outed, and condense the game since scum are going to shoot a townie tonight. have you ever seen a goon self-destruct to "protect" another goon in a mafia game D1? Like, ever?

If the buddies were good it would make sense

[mhsmith0]

Post 919 is kinda out there though. I give you that. Tojam has been useless all game. How is it that he is all of a sudden distracting from the Transcend lynch possibility? Not that there ever was much of a chance of a Transcend lynch possibility since everyone just loves them some Transcend it seems. Throw out a few reads and votes and you instantly townread. Gotta love it.

919 was an absolute atrocity. What makes it more suss is

5. Mason and mafia have factional communicate that only works during the night. If for some reason they are not locked when day begins, you may not talk in them.

since I'd think with day talk someone would have actually coached him not to do something that horrible. Probably need to re-read him, but my recollection from modding him was that he wasn't a crazy derpy villager.

[mhsmith0]

Tojam flopped as an attempt to distract from better scum

Why would tojam do that? Like, if he gets flipped scum, then that's only going to create potential connections for his buddies to get outed, and condense the game since scum are going to shoot a townie tonight. have you ever seen a goon self-destruct to "protect" another goon in a mafia game D1? Like, ever?

If the buddies were good it would make sense

No it wouldn't. You're talking about a scum self-destructing, getting lynched, and then it's easier to look at what he did and why he did it.

Again, have you EVER seen scum do this? Even once?

[Gamma Emerald]

Post 919 is kinda out there though. I give you that. Tojam has been useless all game. How is it that he is all of a sudden distracting from the Transcend lynch possibility? Not that there ever was much of a chance of a Transcend lynch possibility since everyone just loves them some Transcend it seems. Throw out a few reads and votes and you instantly townread. Gotta love it.

919 was an absolute atrocity. What makes it more suss is

5. Mason and mafia have factional communicate that only works during the night. If for some reason they are not locked when day begins, you may not talk in them.

since I'd think with day talk someone would have actually coached him not to do something that horrible. Probably need to re-read him, but my recollection from modding him was that he wasn't a crazy derpy villager.

Pregame chat exists
Just have to be lucky

[mhsmith0]

I mean, I've seen scum let themselves be bussed for town credit; that certainly happens. But your theory is he imploded all on his own, just to distract everybody?

[Gamma Emerald]

Tojam flopped as an attempt to distract from better scum

Why would tojam do that? Like, if he gets flipped scum, then that's only going to create potential connections for his buddies to get outed, and condense the game since scum are going to shoot a townie tonight. have you ever seen a goon self-destruct to "protect" another goon in a mafia game D1? Like, ever?

If the buddies were good it would make sense

No it wouldn't. You're talking about a scum self-destructing, getting lynched, and then it's easier to look at what he did and why he did it.

Again, have you EVER seen scum do this? Even once?

No, doesn't mean it can't happen

[Transcend]

so where's your vote then mhsmith0

MiniDeathStar

[mhsmith0]

I want to re-read to see if there's any reason to believe this is just lynchbait instead of scum. I'll weigh in more substantively tomorrow. Sorry for being slow on things, I'm just kind of backed up right now.

[Transcend]

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Spoiler:

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[Transcend]

VOTE: Flubbernugget

I can't have you voting a mislynch right now

I NEED you to vote Gamma Emerald

[Gamma Emerald]

Transcend is acting weird
He said he would hammer Tojam if Tojam reached L-1

[Transcend]

Gamma Emerald is acting weird
He said he would hammer Tojam if Tojam reached L-1

[Gamma Emerald]

I never said that

[Transcend]

btw tojam wasn't even L-1.

but you bet your ass i would've hammered him if he was lol.