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[TwoFace]

I asked you for a reads list. Where did I ask you to exclude TF?

You did say you wanted to hear more from him outside of his dislike for me so I could see why he interpreted it the way he did.

[MortFeld]

Oh ok. In case Wobbu is actually confused I said that because until he posted his SRs, all he had said about the game was that he disliked your play.

[MortFeld]

@Wobbu

So Red is Creeps, HS, and TB. Who's Green?

@HS

Naomi's interaction with Twoface doesn't read scummy to me.

I agree. What do you think about her vote on and interaction with me?

[Toto]

I do get the feeling that they're a townie who's made the mistake of not justifying their scumreads and being overly defensive.

I used to TR TwoFace, but I'm not so sure anymore. They seem to be getting overly defensive whenever anyone makes any kind of accusation about them.

Can we go back to this for a second. Earlier you told chaos you were town reading me for being overdefsive. Now
You're scum reading me for the same thing? How does that work?

This is a good point.

@Wobbu

, what made you feel that overly defensive meant green in the first post and red in the second post. Explain your thought process. This is bad because it feels you are adapting the reasons to fit your read. Which could mean it is not a real read.

[Toto]

Toto in particular has been fucking incredible at this. I'm sorry I was so hard on you last game bro.

Are you being nice to me for realz or are you just trying to gain my trust?

[keyenpeydee]

Vote Count

VOTE COUNT 1.25

[1] Road Kamelot - ChaosOmega,
[0] ThinkBig -
[0] Toto -
[0] Nero Cain -
[0] Drone -
[1] DeathByWobbuffet - TwoFace,

[L-2]

Human Sequencer - Drone, Lil Uzi Vert, Creeps20, Mortfeld, Toto,
[0] MortFeld -
[0] Lil Uzi Vert -
[0] TwoFace -
[0] Naomi-Tan -
[0] ChaosOmega -
[1] Creeps20 - Road Kamelot,

Not Voting

- Nero Cain, ThinkBig, Human Sequencer, DeathByWobbuffet, Naomi-Tan,

MOD NOTES:

I've prodded Creeps20 (I've not noticed he had been inactive) and he has until tomorrow to post. I'm still searching for a ThinkBig replacement.

V/LA:

Toto, ChaosOmega and Road Kamelot

With

13

Alive, it takes

7

to lynch. Day One will end in

(expired on 2016-11-18 10:00:00)

[Human Sequencer]

Toto in particular has been fucking incredible at this. I'm sorry I was so hard on you last game bro.

Are you being nice to me for realz or are you just trying to gain my trust?

I'm just really surprised.

Fixed -Mod

[Human Sequencer]

Wobbs has been really scummy. Shame Copper was so clean earlier. Null read altogether.
This game feels like a ghosttown with so many people away.

Let it be known that TwoFace stated intent to be on my wagon at this point. It might come in handy later on in the game.
Funny how the more reasonable he gets the less powerful my townread is. Still definitely a townread.

@TwoFace
Those 'I would be on your wagon but I'm not gonna because ...' things are eehhhhh. Should be left for the person hammering in my opinion.

Although usually infolynches are stupid it is D1 and I'm feeling a little matyr-like today and it's becoming increasingly difficult to defend myself the more conflated, vague and semantic my offenses become. If I'm lynched and flip green, please remember post 845 and closely analyze those on my wagon, -especially- those with flip flop reasoning. Except Mort. Mort's flip flop reasoning makes him even townier to me.

[Naomi-Tan]

Naomi looks really bad also.

My normal kind of bad or the red kind of bad?

[Human Sequencer]

Oh I missed that twice Mort, I'll reply to that in a sec, sorry

[TwoFace]

Naomi looks really bad also.

My normal kind of bad or the red kind of bad?

Red

[Naomi-Tan]

Naomi looks really bad also.

My normal kind of bad or the red kind of bad?

Red

This is normally the part where I'd ask why But I think its pretty obvious. Is the reason you think im red the following things. Not as active as early last game. Also jumping on your PL and that push over the last couple days?

[Human Sequencer]

On the Naomi/Mort interaction, as per Mort's request.
Post 959 seems reasonable to me, I don't agree with pretty much everything she's saying but I don't think her logic is flawed, her logic just follows different rules than mine. She rises up a very good point about TF and Mort's communication, but it's a point Copper and I made eons ago. She's more forward with it though, and hunting by association, which is a big no-no.

Post 964 is even more reasonable, because I actually agree with Mort. Mort should keep in mind that being on a lot of wagons can be scum indicative, so it's reasonable for others to scum read him as such. He mentions a good point about recency bias, which I think everybody should have picked up about Mort's playstyle by now, and should factor in to how you read him.

Post 998 is absolutely in line with Naomi's meta and is NAI at worst. It's clear TwoFace's question is a loaded question, so Naomi replied saying she's aware of it and bringing light to the fact that what she said is exactly what she'd say as either green or red in that situation.

[TwoFace]

Basically. The multiple 180s on mort were very weird. Your response to my question was weird. Your unvote when nobody else was going along with you and you saying the reason was because they didn't react like you thought they were was weird because surely you're smart enough to realize nobody is going to react to a single vote.

It just all looks not green to me.

[Human Sequencer]

She didn't make any 180s on Mort. Her opinion organically fluctuated over the course of the game. She voted Mort, stopped voting Mort because she liked his content more, then voted him again after doing some analysis. She then changed her mind and unvoted because the wagon wasn't going anywhere.

Where did she ever say she townread him?

[TwoFace]

433- votes mort. Thinks he's red.
564 - now he's stepped it up. More and more less likely to be red motivation
959 - back to scum reading him and for not good reasons
1020 - unvotes cause it's a terrible train (no shit). Thinking her 1 vote would be strong enough to generate a reaction is not something I'd expect from green Naomi.

Side note 624 is terrible because I was never stopping anyone from scum hunting. I certainly didn't stop her from it.
Side note 2- 702 is also terrible. Said I was red reading everyone blindly. That's complete false. I had 2 strong scum reads, was pushing on one refusing to back down, and I had reasons for it.

Naomi is probably scum here. Making up reasons to "policy lynch" me. Doing 180s on mort for bad reasons. Unvoting when she realizes she doesn't look green and says it's for not getting any sort of reaction when green Naomi should know better. Most players if scum(or even town) are going to react to 1 vote.

[Human Sequencer]

I'd respond with what I think (I disagree, for perspective), but it'd require me to have to go into detail about how I interpreted Naomi's thought process, which is messy. So I'll just leave it to her to defend.
Liking your posts more.

[Naomi-Tan]

433

oh come on! use the [post] tags will ya! now I gotta track all over the thread

[Naomi-Tan]

you know what no im not tracking all over the thread

433 564 959 1020

There we go I can fetch stuff now.

[TwoFace]

433

oh come on! use the [post] tags will ya! now I gotta track all over the thread

Too hard to do on my phone. Sorry

[keyenpeydee]

ArcAngel9 replaces ThinkBig. Welcome her!

[ArcAngel9]

Thank you MOD.

Give me sometime. I ll read the game by tomorrow.

[MortFeld]

Hi ArcAngel! I think your slot has looked pretty objectively Red but I at least am very open minded and mindful of TB's noobness affecting his play. See 779 for a summary of my thoughts at that point - they've changed somewhat since then. Looking forward to you catching up tomorrow.

[Human Sequencer]

Yo arcangel.
You're looking pretty red at the moment, I do hate to say.
Good luck.

[Naomi-Tan]

433- votes mort. Thinks he's red.
564 - now he's stepped it up. More and more less likely to be red motivation
959 - back to scum reading him and for not good reasons
1020 - unvotes cause it's a terrible train (no shit). Thinking her 1 vote would be strong enough to generate a reaction is not something I'd expect from green Naomi.

Side note 624 is terrible because I was never stopping anyone from scum hunting. I certainly didn't stop her from it.
Side note 2- 702 is also terrible. Said I was red reading everyone blindly. That's complete false. I had 2 strong scum reads, was pushing on one refusing to back down, and I had reasons for it.

Naomi is probably scum here. Making up reasons to "policy lynch" me. Doing 180s on mort for bad reasons. Unvoting when she realizes she doesn't look green and says it's for not getting any sort of reaction when green Naomi should know better. Most players if scum(or even town) are going to react to 1 vote.

you know.. I really don't wanna deal with this push.. Its kinda bleh.. like hes calling me out for changing my reads between a 130 post gap and my recent push on data. Denied that he wasn't drawing all the attention around the 624 (where he was going to L-2 just for being toxic and unmoving and says he wasn't red reading everyone who was on there train which as far as I remember he was)

Pedit: Dude, You just write [post] in brackets. you don't even need to highlight. you just need a keyboard ><