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Post Post #2125 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:13 am

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In post 2122, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2120, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2117, MathBlade wrote:Worse case scenario we draw.
That is not the worst case scenario.
It is 10v3 in the first post? So only two scum remain. Explain how no lynching loses?

I have intention of reconsidering after an NK.
It doesn't, but it's full to the brim of WIFOM. (And by the worst case scenario, I'm obviously referring to the case where we NL and then mislynch.)

Also, for the record, scum would have huge incentive to bus here. It's basically a guaranteed win.
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Post Post #2126 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:13 am

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In post 2124, MathBlade wrote:I don't contribute to stupid ideas of lynching today. If we lynch it is in my top two. If a third person votes then scum can easily hammer so a third person voting is playing stupid.
And if 3 votes come on and no hammer happens, then what?
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Post Post #2127 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:15 am

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It would have to be a statistically significant amount of time. Now I really have to get back to work.

If we mislynch after a NL same consequences as today's sS.
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Post Post #2128 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:19 am

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Great Manuel, Math has essentially proven they will not reconsider you being town until proven otherwise.

The only way we can do that is with an SS vote.

I know JarJar and Manuel are town.
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Post Post #2129 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:14 pm

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That is not what I said. What I said is I would need to see a statistically significant amount of time to prove that scum could have hammered and didn't.
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Post Post #2130 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:47 pm

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In post 2129, MathBlade wrote:That is not what I said. What I said is I would need to see a statistically significant amount of time to prove that scum could have hammered and didn't.
Right and that's mathematical proof. You're refusing to consider that you could ever be wrong and others have strategy that could be right. It shouldn't take that to get you to reanalyze.

The Gamestate right now screams you are wrong, but you're head deep into scumreading universal town because of your setup. You did this to me in Wake's game despite 5 or 6 guilties in a row.

You want me to believe you're scumhunting. Do an indepth analysis of who is scum and who is town and why.

I don't feel you are listening at all but you're stuck in your setup view is right and no town would ever disagree with you.

It's ok to demand evidence more than he agrees with me, therefore must be town.
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Post Post #2131 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:12 pm

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1) Yes we should have damn near close to that to lynch anyone in MyLO. By being a stubborn jackass I am forcing people to take positions on SS and their reads. This will cost the game if you are wrong. So yes I want an airtight case that I will have no regrets voting someone. Right now that person is Manuel based on setup.

2) The gamestate screams no such thing. JK + Watcher + Neighborizer could be balanced if scum have one OP role and one decent one. Gamestate = setup.

3) Even if you mean today in general it indicates one of two things:

A) Manuel is scum who no one but me scumreads or
B) Manuel is town.

Case A) Manuel is scum and he and his buddy won't scumread him. That is three of six players. Just because people don't scumread him doesn't mean he isn't scum. Hell I went some games without a single vote on me as scum. That didn't change my alignment. It just means it isn't a popular opinion and in MyLO you don't compromise. I absolutely agree that my read isn't popular which confounds me how that could be thought of as balanced which people are just going along with.

Case B) Manuel is town and I am wrong. Has anyone made a case for Manuel town or is it just PoE at this point? I have demonstrated where Manuel tried to save infinity and so did Dunn. Are you suggesting that Dunn and Manuel are both town who tried to let infinity go to another day?

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I agree I am an obstinate player right now but apparently everyone thinks this setup is okay when it is horrible. Neighborizer is almost never given to scum so if Dunn had neighborized Zach night one instead of me then this could have been follow the JK and been broke as fuck. Then if he hit the Watcher town would be fucked.

All of that against two unknown roles and a one shot tracker.

Furthermore if there is scum in smart in the neighborhood as you said you believe then it is even worse because scum do not get to rest ever. They cannot "claim to have read overnight" or come up with a universal plan. This in essence takes away night talk if not weak which is why if it is included it is weak.

MechaGoomba town motion detector died night 3
Saru odd-night mason recruiter died night 3 (Note was weak by definition of mason recruiter)
Titus, town jailkeeper endgamed


Karnos, mafia neapolitan, won
Mathblade, mafia goon, won
MagnaOfIllusion, Mafia Jailkeeper Enabler, won

This is an example of good balance from 1800.

Please explain to me what makes this balanced. Any setup scum could have.
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Post Post #2132 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:15 pm

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the Watcher scum would be fucked.*

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Post Post #2133 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:28 pm

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Furthermore for SS to be scum and you to be town you are asking me to believe that on D1 it was an all town lynch on Creature and that on d2 infinity was the only scum on it.

Now I am no rocket scientist but there are only a couple of ways that happens:
Namely when scum is of limited power and has to hide their head in the sand.
The power roles that have flipped suggest scum should be high power roles.

What you are suggesting does not fit.
Instead it is much more likely town has three power roles not four.

Furthermore you do not bring a case at all in fucking MyLO you own stock in Waffle House and are a complete hypocrite on voting.

We should be no lynching today.
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Post Post #2134 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:31 pm

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Based on your blatant hypocrisy I am moving you up on my scumreads and saying Manuel+Titus or third place Dong.

Whiteknighting and recycling my arguments from before about why JarJar was obviously Town as well is just fuckin ridiculous.
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Post Post #2135 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:34 pm

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1) You aren't forcing anything other than a migraine. If you're town, you're saying it is ok to have a pet read to never move on it or discuss the capability of being wrong.

2) That's not the Gamestate I meant. I meant the social relationships. You're flat out ignoring them.

3) In case A, Find his partner. All the town have to agree. You refusing to discuss anyone else doesn't persuade anyone you've cracked the game, only that you think you do.

In case B, Town can be wrong. You removed your vote according to the VCA. You've defended scum too. It's not so much the events but why. I already know about you getting overly invested in an opinion. So, why?

4) That's why God made spoilers. Yet, if someone asks for an indepth read, focus on the person asking.

5) Sometimes "horrible" setups happen. Mini 1844 had a tracker, odd night weak doctor, 1-shot GS, neighborizer and universal backup versus a rolecop and a backup.

That's setting aside follow the jk only works if there is one scum and town doesn't notice what is going on.
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Post Post #2136 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:39 pm

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In post 886, inspectorscout wrote:
Vote Count 1.21


JarJarDrinks- [0]
Dunnstral - [0]
Zachstralkita - [2] Creature, XnadrojX
[L-3] Creature - [4] iraonavp, Transcend, Zachstralkita, Infinity 324
Infinity 324 - [0]
Transcend - [0]
XnadrojX - [3] Gamma Emerald, Dunnstral, Dongempire
iraonavp - [0]
Mathblade - [0]
Manuel87 - [1] Mathblade
Gamma Emerald - [2] Something_Smart, Manuel87
Dongempire - [0]
Something_Smart - [1] JarJarDrinks


Not Voting - Nobody!

Mod Notes – XnadrojX is V/LA until tuesday.
Please bold mod communication.


With 13 Alive, It Takes 7 to Lynch.

Day 1 Ends In (expired on 2016-10-26 14:14:38).
In post 1074, inspectorscout wrote:
Vote Count 1.FINAL


JarJarDrinks- [0]
Dunnstral - [0]
Zachstralkita - [0]
[L-0] LYNCH Creature - [7] iraonavp, Transcend, Zachstralkita, Infinity 324, Mathblade, Gamma Emerald, Dunnstral

Infinity 324 - [0]
Transcend - [1] Creature
XnadrojX - [0]
iraonavp - [0]
Mathblade - [0]
Manuel87 - [0]
Gamma Emerald - [3] Something_Smart, Manuel87, JarJarDrinks
Dongempire - [1] XnadrojX
Something_Smart - [0]


Not Voting - Dongempire

Mod notes - A lynch has been achieved. Flip incoming.



With 13 Alive, It Takes 7 to Lynch.

Day 1 Ends Now.
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In post 1424, inspectorscout wrote:

Vote Count 2.FINAL


JarJarDrinks- [3] Dongempire, Something_Smart, Manuel87
Dunnstral - [0]
Zachstralkita - [0]
Infinity 324 - [0]
[LYNCH] Transcend - [7] iraonavp, XnadrojX, Mathblade, Infinity 324, Gamma Emerald, Transcend, Dunnstral

XnadrojX -[0]
iraonavp-[0]
Mathblade - [0]
Manuel87 - [0]
Gamma Emerald - [0]
Dongempire - [0]
Something_Smart - [0]


Not Voting - JarJarDrinks, Zachstralkita

Mod Notes – Something_Smart is V/LA until Sunday.
JarJarDrinks is V/LA until Monday.
Dongempire is V/LA until Sunday.
Mathblade is V/LA until Monday.


With 12 Alive, It Takes 7 to Lynch.

Day 2 Ends Now.
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Infinity was on the end Creature lynch.

Scum were spread supporting a multitude of shitty wagons D1.
If JarJar is town, both D2 lynches were on town, yet scum have a preference to discredit JarJar.

That points to SS scum.

If you're doing VCA please stick to the truth.
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Post Post #2137 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:47 pm

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1) In MyLO yep. LyLO depends but usually yep. At the MyLO/Lylo part it is less about reads and you go for the goddamn sure thing because scum will try to derail you every time you can get. The easy lynch would be a town loss more than likely. In MyLO you ALWAYS no lynch with the exception of a cop guilty.

2) ignoring them is blatantly false. I asked everyone for their reads more so than claims because they'd all have to be straight VTs as Manuel is a claimed BP. Anything else would force a 1v1 and everyone townreads Manuel so scum wouldn't claim PR. I think you said mass claim to look as if you are hunting. I have asked for people's top reads because then I can analyze what happens overnight with them. I am preparing for a no lynch because we should not be lynching today. You can keep scum claiming by voting and whiteknighting Jar but I am quite happy not playing into your shenanigans.

3) Asked and answered. Manuel+Titus or Manuel+Dong.
I am discussing but Manuel claiming BP is a scum claim that until someone can provide me a setup that works with 4 Town PRs that are more powerful I see no reason to budge in MyLO.

3B) It is the events as well as the Why. It is simple. Manuel tried to save Infinity. Even after the guilty. Yet you call him innocent. The evidence is there you just refuse to consider him scum because you don't want to bus as you hate bussing. Or you are just stubborn and don't setup spec. VCA doesn't provide the why it is the facts of a wagon. The facts say you are scum or D1 was an all town lynch. That is a fact you deflect.

4) Yes it is. I told you how I am changing. Deal.

5) Mastin horrible setups don't happen. She reviewed this. Manuel is scum.

Pedit:

Damn I missed that. Shit.

I hate my vote highlighter tool it sucks. Will redo my VCA later tonight but until then.

VOTE: No lynch

As any rational sane townie would do.
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Post Post #2138 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:14 pm

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Math, type the following sentence until blue in the face.

Not every reasonable townie agrees with me.


It's true, but you don't believe it. Well meaning town can be wrong.

1) In mylo, lynch if a) cop guilty, b) obvious town death or c) town has a majority scumread and can get an extra lynch. We're in b and c.

2) There's nothing stopping you from analyzing the reads now. SS's read transgression is terrible and JarJar highlighted it. You aren't doing anything with the information because you're holding town hostage while ignoring the context of the game. This is the third straight finished game where you have done this. I lynched you in the game with RB. In Wake's game you were called to derp to scum. Here, you persist and think your own view must be correct.

3) A)Strongman, Ninja, Roleblocker, pick 2 of 3. Also, like I said occasionally a broken setup passes review. That's because some don't see flaws and people disagree on balance.

B) Is JarJar protecting Manuel too? Right now, we're mostly in the same place regarding the scumteam. Neither of us are voting Manuel. We both think it's SS and Dong. The reason why town won Gunslingers is because I reassessed reads when the Gamestate told me Chumba was being a spoiled entitled brat. You may not like it but Manuel is not getting lynched this game.

If you do a decent VCA, it's meant to tell the story. You don't say these are facts but cannot explain why. That's not a VCA but a self reinforcing cycle.

4) That's not "changing". Changing is figuring out what people need and giving it to them and helping them. Never listening to others and supposing you're the only reasonable townie isn't change at all. Town works best when we work together.

5) Everyone has flaws. If you're town, you don't know the scum rules.

6) Quote all of inspectorscout's VCA.
Copy and Paste into word.
Remove all the [color= orange] and [/color] tags.
Replace names with [color = green] town[/color] and
Infinitynumvers

Post in thread.

There you go.
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Post Post #2139 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:57 pm

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1) In mylo, lynch if a) cop guilty, b) obvious town death or c) town has a majority scumread and can get an extra lynch. We're in b and c.
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No. none of these are valid scenarios.
Scum claim cop in MyLO instant GG.
B) No because there is no obvious town death. It will draw Manuel or someone else. Either way we don't lose.
C) That is not true. We cannot get an extra lynch. We lynch town we lose GG no re.

2) I am not ignoring the context I am merely asking what everyone thinks
However for point and argument let's assume a Dong + SS team how does the mislynch on Jordan happen?

If you mean I don't follow sheep Titus it is probably the 28 millionth but you never lynch in LyLo. Tomorrow this can be revisited.

3) A) Ninja impossible because infinity was watched. Strongman not possible else Manuel if town would be dead. Neeeext theory.
VCA is facts. Those facts tell cases. A good VCA doesn't include why. The facts do it for you.

4) Not intentionally but everyone is giving him a pass because he was unCC'd. That doesn't make him Town.

5) I has brain. Brain says pity the scums.

@Titus you persist in something smart is scum too and won't listen about Manuel. This is pot call kettle black moment.

However let's assume I go with Something Smart + Dong theory.

How does the mislynch on Jordan happen? Manuel is likely scum on it who played into my theory.
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Post Post #2140 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:04 pm

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Now I am driving home and going to sleep shitty day at work :/ Won't have time nor inclination to wall.


Reasonable townies disagree on reads. They don't fucking lynch during MyLO.
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Post Post #2141 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:07 pm

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In post 2139, MathBlade wrote: 3) Strongman not possible else Manuel if town would be dead.
NK1: Me or Transcend (so unless its infinit Strongman no reason to waste a shot Night one)
NK2: claimed JK
NK3: claimed Watcher
NK4: Neighbourizer
So no i wouldnt be dead but i will be tomorrow.

Also think about it Infinity made the lynch on claimed JK. That most likely means he was the weakest member of the scumteam.
Also read my comment about my last game or review my last game you will see that the roles are pretty simmilar to this game.

Nolynch isnt an option as it would just mean scum kills me or takes my BP if it wasnt taken Night one already and we gain nothing from it.
Worst case i survive, you keep your tunnel on me and we lose tomorrow.
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Post Post #2142 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:35 pm

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Let's assume I am insane and you die tomorrow.

Then it is LyLo and I am forced to adapt to this being a really unbalanced setup.

Who would you vote posthumously?
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Post Post #2143 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:42 pm

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In post 2140, MathBlade wrote:Now I am driving home and going to sleep shitty day at work :/ Won't have time nor inclination to wall.


Reasonable townies disagree on reads. They don't fucking lynch during MyLO.
Mylo is not autolynch in every instance. I haven't read the rest of your posts yet but saw this.

You've called JarJar and I unreasonable while tunnelling on someone who cannot be scum by the votes cast. Calling everyone who disagrees with you as unreasonable just causes people to shut down. At least one townie disagrees with you, calling people unreasonable when we Ned consensus fails.

Now to read your posts.
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Post Post #2144 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:50 pm

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1) Remember my first rule.
Count the bodies.


If we lynch scum today, and no one dies tonight. We have 5 alive with one scum. That creates a mislynch.

2) Who the crap is Jordan?

3) Handled by Manuel. I'll supplement that Infinity had no purpose given tracker likely acted N1.

4-5) What are the needs of your townreads? What are you doing to meet them? Where did you go wrong before? This is a hard look that's required. I have told you directly but you apparently need to reach this conclusion yourself.

@Math, I have listened to you about Manuel and highlighted the flaw as an egocentric one. Your beliefs about setup spe are not universal.

Please engage in analysis on JarJar's case on SS.
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Post Post #2145 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:04 pm

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In post 2144, Titus wrote:1) Remember my first rule.
Count the bodies.


If we lynch scum today, and no one dies tonight. We have 5 alive with one scum. That creates a mislynch.

2) Who the crap is Jordan?

3) Handled by Manuel. I'll supplement that Infinity had no purpose given tracker likely acted N1.

4-5) What are the needs of your townreads? What are you doing to meet them? Where did you go wrong before? This is a hard look that's required. I have told you directly but you apparently need to reach this conclusion yourself.

@Math, I have listened to you about Manuel and highlighted the flaw as an egocentric one. Your beliefs about setup spe are not universal.

Please engage in analysis on JarJar's case on SS.
1) If we lynch scum someone will die and repeat of today.
2) XnadrojX is Jordan. It was a name came up with midgame.
3) No he didn't. Neighborizer could wait. If scum had a strongman and Manuel was town he would be dead ergo Manuel scum.
4) My townreads have needs of no lynching no matter what stupidity gets suggested. My townread in JarJar wants to lynch because you have him wrapped around your little finger. In MyLO you should be stubborn as fuck. I shouldn't be compromising.
5) Doing nothing wrong as all you have said to discount my Manuel scumread is Math has ego. I know that. Doesn't make me wrong.

6) I already did earlier in the game. If you want a laundry cycle then it will have to wait as the laundry shop is closed @midnight.
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Post Post #2146 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:12 pm

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1) If we lynch scum, then we get a lylo of you/me OR JarJar/Manuel versus Dong. One of us dying should be a red flag that Manuel is town. Either way, scum are boned if people listen to the dead.
2) Will answer in a moment. It needs its own post.
3) Imposition of your own thoughts on the scumteam as the only reasonable play.
4) What are your townreads saying they need, not what you think they need? What are you doing to address their needs? What have you learned from our prior games about communicating with others?

6) I am referring to post . It's his bussing 101 post which you've ignored.
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Post Post #2147 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:14 pm

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In post 1916, inspectorscout wrote:
Vote Count 4.3


JarJarDrinks- [1] Dongempire
Dunnstral - [0]
[L-1]
XnadrojX -[4] Mathblade, Dunnstral, Manuel87, iraonavp
iraonavp-[0]
Mathblade - [1] Something_Smart
Manuel87 - [1] XnadrojX
Dongempire - [0]
Something_Smart - [1] JarJarDrinks


Not Voting -

Mod Notes – None

With 8 Alive, It Takes 5 to Lynch.

Day 4 Ends In (expired on 2016-11-13 03:54:15)
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In post 1929, inspectorscout wrote:
Vote Count 4.FINAL


JarJarDrinks- [0]
Dunnstral - [0]
[LYNCH]
XnadrojX -[5] Mathblade, Dunnstral, Manuel87, iraonavp, Dongempire
iraonavp-[0]
Mathblade - [1] Something_Smart
Manuel87 - [1] XnadrojX
Dongempire - [0]
Something_Smart - [1] JarJarDrinks


Not Voting -

Mod Notes – XnadrojX has been hammered.

With 8 Alive, It Takes 5 to Lynch.

Day 4 Ends Now.
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Let's see here, uncontested town lynch the day before lylo. Scum do not want to touch that shit.
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Post Post #2148 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:15 pm

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Vote Count 5.2


JarJarDrinks - [0]
Titus - [1] Something_Smart
Mathblade - [0]
Manuel87 - [0]
Dongempire - [0]
Something_Smart - [2] Titus, JarJarDrinks

No Lynch - [1] Mathblade


Not Voting - Manuel87, Dongempire,

Mod Notes – So many votecounts and none of them posted by me #modgoals

With 6 Alive, It Takes 4 to Lynch.

Day 5 Ends In (expired on 2016-11-22 04:15:31).
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Post Post #2149 (ISO) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:26 pm

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I recall seeing a question about a draw:
The game ends in a draw after 2 complete day and night phases where mafia does not attempt to kill at night and every day ends in a no-lynch.

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