Mini Normal 1841 - At The End... (GAME OVER)

[Donempire]

No.

[MathBlade]

No.

....No....Please post more than one word.

[MathBlade]

1) If we lynch scum, then we get a lylo of you/me OR JarJar/Manuel versus Dong. One of us dying should be a red flag that Manuel is town. Either way, scum are boned if people listen to the dead.
2) Will answer in a moment. It needs its own post.
3) Imposition of your own thoughts on the scumteam as the only reasonable play.
4) What are your townreads saying they need, not what you think they need? What are you doing to address their needs? What have you learned from our prior games about communicating with others?

6) I am referring to post 2084. It's his bussing 101 post which you've ignored.

1) One of you dying is a red flag Manuel is scum.
You have made arguments that if Manuel is town then no one would die.
Now you say if someone dies then Manuel is town.
Logical contradiction much?
3) Yes because scum aren't idiots because they got IMHO all the town power to claim. (And in my opinion are dead.) It makes sense they do logical things. A dong/smart team has no reason to kill neighborizer as they are both in it.
4) I have played games where townreads are smarter than me and where they are dumber than me. They say what they want. "Need" is no lynch in MyLO always. No matter how smart you think you are reads can be wrong and so you always no lynch in MyLO. If obvious happens great. If not you get a chance to readjust. For communicating with others you read what they say take it into account then wait until done reading before responding. Which I have done.
6) requires own post but in general SS's flipflopping is resembling of scumhunting.

[MathBlade]

Responses in line in bold

Bussing 101

So S_S comes out of the day with a hardcore SR on Dong. He probably assumed that he's be the lynch today regardless cause of the hammer and wanted the towncred.

The only thing remotely right here is the part about Dongempire, and that's not even the main reason I scumread him. (For those of you not in the hood, Dongempire is now my top scumread due in part to that hammer.)

I'm not being lynched today.

Pick one of them (preferably Dong) and push them instead.

He then tells us he thinks mathblade is the scumbuddy.

I think the scumteam is Dongempire/Mathblade.

probably putting out some feelers to see if anyone would wagon math.

so as I pointed out earlier. His top scumread changed.

Dongempire is now my top scumread

popcorn to his biggest unclaimed scumread

Popcorn Mathblade.

Here he starts trying to justify the flipflop that is sure to come.

Bias tunnel not evidence. It is either a rolefish of me or justified read. Not a setup to change reads.

And ugh. I'm gonna need to check and see how often I am right versus wrong when I defend scummy people because I think that they're lynchbait (and I can think of a few times when I have incorrectly townread scum like this just off the top of my head), because I feel like I might do better just scumreading people who are scummy and leaving it at that.

I like the "ugh" @ the beginning to show us he's really struggling.

Or he is genuine. That is not explaining shit

Why is it terribad? Of my two scumreads, you were the one I thought more likely to claim a PR.

Here he says he's still "scumreading" dong but he hasn't been making an effort to get him lynched.

I'm changing my mind again aaaaaaaaah

MmmHmm

This is explanatory as <~drwhysvtsftwzv

And FYI I scumread you now.

VOTE: Titus

So now the flip to titus.

Because he is scumhunting....

I was waiting until Titus claimed, but since she obviously isn't going to, I'll just say that my top scumreads now are Titus and JarJar.

Titus AND jarjar??? How do you just flip BOTH your scumreads like that? Like OK maybe you now scumread Titus sure but how is it that you're all of a sudden not scumreading Dong OR math @ this point?

The answer is because he sees a path to victory without needing to bus his partner so he just inexplicitly drops his dong scumread.

Like seriously justify your read change there S_S. There's no way.

Already did. Too busy in tunnel to see it.

Speaking of not being able to justify a read change:

@S_S what changed your townread on me?

My growing townread on Mathblade and my decision that scummy people are probably just scum.

Not sure what his townread on mathblade has to do w/ anything so his reason here is "You're acting scummy".


Seriously people. Dong/S_S is the scumteam.

This is not a bussing 101 post. Just your opinion he is

[Titus]

Manuel, look. Math apparently knows better than us and what we need. We need SS scum lynched? No. Apparently every scenario leads to you being scummy. I have given up. I hate to say this but unless you me and JarJar agree on Dong or SS, we will draw at best.

Math isn't going to listen to us in death or life and just gives one sentence you're wrong to any sort of rational basis. They have their views and no amount of reasoning will sway them.

They literally do not care to ascertain our desires but instead want to tell us we only desire to agree with her.

That means the three of us need to make a choice with enough time on the clock for Math to feel it's reasonable.

If we had a mislynch, Math would be a policy lynch at this point so that the rest of us can lynch scum. We don't. So that means you have to pick one and JarJar and I follow or lead depending on the name you pick.

Any other result leads to a town lead mislynch of you.


@Math, I am done. Your answers showed me you'll only listen to yourself. You're not this way IRL but seriously, get over yourself. Not all reasonable town share your opinion.

[Donempire]

>reasonable xDDDDD
greentext xddddDddDdd

Titus and jar gg lets go dealing with this after a day of exams is just boring the thrill is gone and you are circlejerking, so lets lynchh

[Manuel87]

Manuel, look. Math apparently knows better than us and what we need. We need SS scum lynched? No. Apparently every scenario leads to you being scummy. I have given up. I hate to say this but unless you me and JarJar agree on Dong or SS, we will draw at best.
Math isn't going to listen to us in death or life and just gives one sentence you're wrong to any sort of rational basis. They have their views and no amount of reasoning will sway them.
They literally do not care to ascertain our desires but instead want to tell us we only desire to agree with her.
That means the three of us need to make a choice with enough time on the clock for Math to feel it's reasonable.
If we had a mislynch, Math would be a policy lynch at this point so that the rest of us can lynch scum. We don't. So that means you have to pick one and JarJar and I follow or lead depending on the name you pick.
Any other result leads to a town lead mislynch of you.
@Math, I am done. Your answers showed me you'll only listen to yourself. You're not this way IRL but seriously, get over yourself. Not all reasonable town share your opinion.

Well i have to agree i was actually considering just voting her but since we have to hit i didnt.
Considering i still think she is town nolynch isnt an option as that would just mean scum kills you and we lose because Math still pushes the misslynch on me tomorrow.

I still want to lynch Dong.

[Something_Smart]

VOTE: NL

if we're gonna lose this game we might as well hurry up and do it

(also I think now is the appropriate time to end discussion and see who dies.)

[Titus]

JarJar and I can do Dong.

[MathBlade]

How the hell can you speak for JarJar?

/me is creeped out

[JarJarDrinks]

I can do dong

[Manuel87]

VOTE: Dongempire

[JarJarDrinks]

VOTE: dong

[Titus]

VOTE: Dong

[Titus]

@Math, Because I listened to him. You don't know how to listen. You try but you don't.

The countdown to reasonable begins now.

[inspectorscout]

Vote Count 5.3

JarJarDrinks - [0]
Titus - [1]
Mathblade - [0]
Manuel87 - [0]

L-1

Dongempire - [3] Manuel87, JarJarDrinks, Titus
Something_Smart - [0]

NL-1

No Lynch - [2] Mathblade, Something_Smart


Not Voting - Dongempire

Mod Notes – I'll be asleep now, so if a (no)lynch goes through, processing it will be in 10 hours or something.

With 6 Alive, It Takes 4 to Lynch.

Day 5 Ends In (expired on 2016-11-22 04:15:31).

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[MathBlade]

VOTE: Dong

Not interested.

GG Something Smart

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Dong

That is hammer folks

[Something_Smart]

Goddamn.

Was it you and JarJar?

[inspectorscout]

Im going to lock, talk on in a minute.

[MathBlade]

Lol nice trolling SS

/me hugs Titus

Told you you should no lynch

[inspectorscout]

Vote Count 5.FINAL

JarJarDrinks - [0]
Titus - [1]
Mathblade - [0]
Manuel87 - [0]

[LYNCH]

Dongempire - [4] Manuel87, JarJarDrinks, Titus, Mathblade
Something_Smart - [0]

No Lynch - [1] Something_Smart


Not Voting - Dongempire

Mod Notes – GAME END

With 6 Alive, It Takes 4 to Lynch.

Day 5 Ends In (expired on 2016-11-22 04:15:31).

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[inspectorscout]

Dongempire was lynched. He was a

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie

Spoiler: Role PM

Welcome to Mini Normal 1841!

You are a Vanilla Townie.
Abilities:
- During the day, you may vote to lynch.

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this message with your alignment and role.

A win condition has been achieved.

[inspectorscout]

Titus, Vanilla Townie, has been endgamed.
Manuel87, Town 1-Shot Bulletproof, has been endgamed.
Something_Smart, Vanilla townie

As mafia consists of at least half of the living players (well, nothing can prevent this), they have won!

Congratulations to

Infinity324, Mafia 1-Shot Tracker
Mathblade, Mafia 1-Shot Ninja
JarJarDrinks, Mafia Goon

[inspectorscout]

Night 1

Gamma Emerald Watches Zachstralkita ("Your target was not visited.") Success
Mathblade kills Transcend (uses 1-shot ninja, untraceable) Fails: Transcend is jailed
Infinity324 tracks Something_Smart ("Your target did not visit anyone.") Success
Zachstralkita jails Transcend (Tanscend is jailed) Success
Dunnstral neighborizes Mathblade (Mathblade is added to the neighbourhood) Success

Nobody dies.




Night 2

Gamma Emerald Watches Zachstralkita (Your target was visited by infinity 324) Success
Zachstralkita jails JarJarDrinks (JJD is jailed) Success
Dunnstral Neighborizes Dongempire (Dong is nb'd) Success
Infinity 324 kills Zachstralkita (z dies) Success

Zachstralkita dies.




Night 3

Gamma Emerald Watches JarJarDrinks
Dunnstral Neighborizes Something_Smart
JarJarDrinks kills Gamma Emerald

Gamma Emerald Dies.



Night 4

Accelerated night votes: iraonavp, Manuel87, Dongempire, JarJarDrinks
JarJarDrinks Kills Dunnstral
Dunnstral neighborizes Manuel87

Dunnstral Dies.





PT links:
Mafia PT
Dunnstral's Neighborhood
Dead PT