Open 658 Making Friends and Enemies | Game Over

[Secret Agent Jin]

For Flubber, he seems to have a few posts wherein he interacts with him but never really says too much stuff to Flubber that could be construed as buddying. Gamma also doesnt interact with Flubber too much. It looks to me like Gamma was trying to keeo his distance so that a line couldn't be drawn between them, that screams scummy to me.

Are you saying I am scum because Gamma didn't buddy me? In hindsight, thier initial interactions with me probably were buddying.

There were less than 10 pages of content between my replace in and Gammas lynch if I recall correctly. How much interaction do you expect from that span of posting?

Do you think the case I had on Gamma was strong enough to push for thier lynch? If so, why?

I initially missed this, ill answer it now. This is what i meant with my post. Based on Gamma's ISO it appears that he was casually paying attention to you in good ways but not too much attention as to appear that he knew you ingame. I was saying that it appeared that he didnt want to get too close to you because he didnt want lines drawn between you two. He might have done this purposefully so that it would appear as if he was distancing himself from you BUT in actuality wanted to implement you so we would mislynch.

Easier terms: He either wanted to appear as you two werent in cahoots OR was setting you up by fake-distancing himself from you so that we would lynch you think you were his scum buddy,

[Io]

Vote 2.01

Hiding is proven to be the best way to avoid enemies.


Transcend (L-3): sad1492, Creature, mhsmith0
mhsmith0 (L-5): , Transcend
BK201 (L-5): Burgerking
tojam2 (L-5): Flubbernugget
Secret Agent Jin (L-5): tojam2

Not voting: Secret Agent Jin, BK201, oddmusic, Dunnstral

11 players alive majority is 6.

Day ends in (expired on 2016-11-28 07:00:00)

[Transcend]

This is fucking bullshit.

I lynched the fucking mafia.

What the fuck was I supposed to do, lynch town?

This genuinely fucking upsets me.

Like seriously I'm on the verge of tears that I'm even being considered as a lynch after my impressive performance day 1.

Only reason you're fucking lynching me is due to a fucking night kill that points NOTHING towards me.

Fucking seriously, what the fuck are you even doing?

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Transcend

[Transcend]

WHAT THE GENUINE HELL

[Transcend]

I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THE FUCKING POINT OF THIS.

I'M ONLY GETTING LYNCHED DUE TO A STUPID NIGHT KILL THAT POINTS NOTHING TOWARDS ME

THIS IS ACTUALLY GENUINELY FUCKING BULLSHIT THAT EVERY FUCKING TIME I'M TOWN I CAN'T AVOID A LYNCH EVEN WHEN I FUCKING LYNCH SCUM

FUCKING SERIOUSLY

I'M LITERALLY FUCKING FUMED RN

[Dunnstral]

fake anger

If you'll observe, transcend appears to be "cooked"

[Transcend]

Fuck off.

This is not faux rage.

I'm seriously fucking pissed that this is even a thing.

[Transcend]

Swear to God if i get to L-1 I'm hammering myself since obviously no one wants me here

[Transcend]

And i guess in all my games in the future I'll do my best to lynch town as opposed to mafia

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE:
ok friend

Why don't you show me

Who I should be voting

[mhsmith0]

OK Trans, the night kill very very obviously points to you (both to get someone off your back and because you've apparently established a meta of not so good night kills). So pretending as if it somehow doesn't is pretty obvious bullshit. As far as lynching a wolf goes, you and like half the board were on that. You were also on Aubrey (who flipped town) a large chunk of D1, you weren't particularly on the MariaR wagon the first time it got going, and only really made a hard push on Gamma AFTER he made the terrible 919 (and that's a pretty decent spot for a buddy to basically say "fuck it I'm bussing your shitty ass" to himself). So I don't see how you being on the Gamma wagon is especially clearing, and the NK does point to you. So you can be pissy about being pushed and yell at people, or you can try to solve. Your call.

[Dunnstral]

I wasn't voting you for the night kill

[mhsmith0]

What were you voting him for?

[Transcend]

I'll get that to you in a bit but I cannot do that while all these votes are on me

I appreciate the unvote though

Pedit: smith is scum

[mhsmith0]

I'll get that to you in a bit but I cannot do that while all these votes are on me

I appreciate the unvote though

Pedit: smith is scum

Smith is a wolf because he's pushing on me? Like, is that your argument? Because the kill DID point to you, you DID seem to be closer to your scum meta than your town meta, and I'm pretty skeptical that you'd actually be so un-self-aware as to not see that there's a reasonable case on you at this point.

PS I'd laugh my ass off it if was as easy as Trans/SAJ and the back and forth about the hammer vote (which basically went nowhere) was just shitty distancing.

[Transcend]

It's the reason you're pushing on me

Only for nka and not anything I've done in this game

You're a better player than this and in 646 while you did use a bit of mka to get me lynched, you had so much more in your case from my game. And in this one you have nothing that I've done in game to support your vote. So yes. Hang me all you want. I'll schedule your appointment with Dr. Rope for tomorrow.

[Dunnstral]

But

I thought minideathstar was town

[Transcend]

I don't think so anymore

[Dunnstral]

I thought you never did so


but why

[Transcend]

I gave her botd with her appeal to me because it looked a lil genuine

But then did nothing game advancing afterwards, then subbed out (right when MariaR was getting wagoned)

Then her precedent coasted the entire day 1 and went commando with bullshit reasoning to lynch me on d2.

[mhsmith0]

It's the reason you're pushing on me

Only for nka and not anything I've done in this game

You're a better player than this and in 646 while you did use a bit of mka to get me lynched, you had so much more in your case from my game. And in this one you have nothing that I've done in game to support your vote. So yes. Hang me all you want. I'll schedule your appointment with Dr. Rope for tomorrow.

That's not really true though. Obviously NKA is part of it (and "why the fuck would anyone shoot a non mason just to frame trans" is a big part of that as well), but I've also been addressing the stuff you've done.

1) Your Aubrey push (you've raged against getting pushed but haven't bothered to answer 1121 - calling 140 meaningfully wolfy is a pretty big stretch, that was a null post at worst)

2) Lack of interesting questions

3) The points Aubrey raised in 990-992

4) VCA data in 1095: just from vote movement (on MariaR, off, then eventually back on Gamma) seems reasonably likely that you OR Creature is a wolf, and I don't particularly see this as Creature's wolf game.

So "OMG HOW DARE YOU PUSH ME AFTER I LYNCHED A WOLF D1" is basically bullshit, and you're a good enough player to know it.

[Transcend]

Bad response

If i get lynched

You don't survive

So continue lynching me smith

[mhsmith0]

I gave her botd with her appeal to me because it looked a lil genuine

But then did nothing game advancing afterwards, then subbed out (right when MariaR was getting wagoned)

Then her precedent coasted the entire day 1 and went commando with bullshit reasoning to lynch me on d2.

1) Coasting D1 when there's a wolf lynch on the board is pretty weird behavior for a buddy. You're essentially arguing that I shaded Gamma (around the back and forth between him and burgerking), didn't bother to hop on (when it would have obviously been easy for me to do so) or make any actual attempt to save Gamma, and that this was somehow behavior you'd expect from me if I was a wolf for... reasons? Like, is your theory that I was frozen or something? It just seems incredibly strange that you'd read what was happening D1, and think that somehow I was operationalizing some kind of scum strategy here. I could MAYBE see the case that I was UTR on D1 as being suspicious given a TOWN lynch (lurking or active lurking while a town is busy eating itself is an easy play as a wolf), but arguing that my behavior there is particularly indicative given a WOLF lynch is bizarre.

2) The reasoning against you isn't bullshit, and misrepping it as if there's somehow no case, or if you being on Gamma D1 was somehow clearing, is bullshit. You seem to be closer to your scum meta than your town one, you had fairly clear kill motive on Aubrey, and there's nothing particular clearing for you that I can see. Those are entirely valid points.

[mhsmith0]

Bad response

If i get lynched

You don't survive

So continue lynching me smith

If this is the best you can do I'll keep lynching you trans.