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Toto · Post Post #2125 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:00 am

On my mobile. Won't have too much time to post today. Ill be online tomorrow.

I really thought for a minute Arc had soft counter claimed cop. That would explain the 100% confidence. I guess another pr makes some sense but I don't understand why Arc thinks its so unlikely to have a cop.

I will read up on naomi and drone tonight. Ill vote to avoid a nl but I have a feeling this will flip green either way.

TwoFace · Post Post #2126 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:19 am

In post 2121, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 2120, MortFeld wrote:Arc people aren't going to lynch Chaos. I've accepted it and you should too.

Vote for Drone please?
No. Chaos is scum. When i hit scum why i have to gamble?

Chaos is still not defending himself, taking his chances to survive through the day.

This town is being idiot. thats all i can say

So it's ok for arc to act like this but not me?

The double standards.

MortFeld · Post Post #2127 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:24 am

Do you think I'm happy with how Arc is acting?

TwoFace · Post Post #2128 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:24 am

@arc. If you're town it's entirely possible for both your role and a cop to exsist with a vig. To be 100% sure he's lying because of some nonsense game solving is you being the not smart one.

Is he scummy? Yes. Have you ever seen a pr act scummy before? I certainly have.

The fact that you use his weekend v/la against him to say he's not here defending himself is just a cheap shot. He said he's not going to be active and claimed.

Using logic/commonly sense we don't lynch a claimed cop day 1.

Settle down please.

TwoFace · Post Post #2129 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:25 am

And if you're town you don't jk either of us

TwoFace · Post Post #2130 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:26 am

In post 2127, MortFeld wrote:Do you think I'm happy with how Arc is acting?

Don't see you threatening to black list her

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #2131 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:31 am

Its doesn't matter. This town is lost with hopeless players like TF in it.

Scum will kill me tonight. Good bye all. I now officially give up chasing Chaos wagon.

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #2132 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:32 am

If TF is really. there is more tragic. if he is scum with Chaos. Nicely done.

MortFeld · Post Post #2133 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:36 am

Arc can you please vote Drone before you go

TwoFace · Post Post #2134 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:38 am

In post 2131, ArcAngel9 wrote:Its doesn't matter. This town is lost with hopeless players like TF in it.

Scum will kill me tonight. Good bye all. I now officially give up chasing Chaos wagon.

Yeah cause there's something wrong with using logic and common sense.

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #2135 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:39 am

In post 2133, MortFeld wrote:Arc can you please vote Drone before you go

If we decide to mislynch. Why not lynch me instead? I don't know if Drone is scum and my vote either remains on confirmed scum or I ll rather vote myself

TwoFace · Post Post #2136 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:39 am

In post 2132, ArcAngel9 wrote:If TF is really. there is more tragic. if he is scum with Chaos. Nicely done.

What happens if chaos flips town? Despite what you think you know, it's still possible

TwoFace · Post Post #2137 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:40 am

In post 2135, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 2133, MortFeld wrote:Arc can you please vote Drone before you go

If we decide to mislynch. Why not lynch me instead? I don't know if Drone is scum and my vote either remains on confirmed scum or I ll rather vote myself

He isn't confirmed scum

MortFeld · Post Post #2138 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:40 am

In post 2135, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 2133, MortFeld wrote:Arc can you please vote Drone before you go

If we decide to mislynch. Why not lynch me instead? I don't know if Drone is scum and my vote either remains on confirmed scum or I ll rather vote myself

This makes no sense. Why would you rather lynch confirmed jailkeeper than Drone

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #2139 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:41 am

In post 2134, TwoFace wrote:
In post 2131, ArcAngel9 wrote:Its doesn't matter. This town is lost with hopeless players like TF in it.

Scum will kill me tonight. Good bye all. I now officially give up chasing Chaos wagon.
Yeah cause there's something wrong with using logic and common sense.

This is best you can do. Abuse, insult and belittling people with your stubbornness.

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #2140 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:41 am

In post 2137, TwoFace wrote:
In post 2135, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 2133, MortFeld wrote:Arc can you please vote Drone before you go

If we decide to mislynch. Why not lynch me instead? I don't know if Drone is scum and my vote either remains on confirmed scum or I ll rather vote myself
He isn't confirmed scum

He is confirmed scum to MEEE!!!!!

MortFeld · Post Post #2141 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:42 am

Arc stop engaging the back and forth and try to work this out with me. If TF is as insufferable as you seem to think can you please just ignore him for now

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #2142 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:42 am

In post 2138, MortFeld wrote:
In post 2135, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 2133, MortFeld wrote:Arc can you please vote Drone before you go

If we decide to mislynch. Why not lynch me instead? I don't know if Drone is scum and my vote either remains on confirmed scum or I ll rather vote myself
This makes no sense. Why would you rather lynch confirmed jailkeeper than Drone

When you guys are not lynching confirmed scum, rather lynch the obvious night kill.

TwoFace · Post Post #2143 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:43 am

In post 2139, ArcAngel9 wrote:This is best you can do. Abuse, insult and belittling people with your stubbornness

You literally just described yourself

MortFeld · Post Post #2144 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:44 am

In post 2142, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 2138, MortFeld wrote:
In post 2135, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 2133, MortFeld wrote:Arc can you please vote Drone before you go

If we decide to mislynch. Why not lynch me instead? I don't know if Drone is scum and my vote either remains on confirmed scum or I ll rather vote myself
This makes no sense. Why would you rather lynch confirmed jailkeeper than Drone
When you guys are not lynching confirmed scum, rather lynch the obvious night kill.

Stop hyperbolizing for a second. There are 3 scum. Even if you think Chaos is 100% scum, there are two others. Why not try to find them?

TwoFace · Post Post #2145 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:46 am

In post 2140, ArcAngel9 wrote:He is confirmed scum to MEEE!!!!!

He can't be. Limited Cop/vig/jk could actually pass normal review.

Plus you could be lying and are mafia yourself doing a 1v1 to kill the cop

There are other scenarios that could explain it also.

Smart play is not not lynch chaos. If you're town you need to accept that.

TwoFace · Post Post #2146 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:50 am

Still think this setup could be balanced depending on what scum has. Let's try this.

mod was this game approved for normal and balanced or just normal? I couldn't tell from the OP

Naomi-Tan · Post Post #2147 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:01 am

In post 2131, ArcAngel9 wrote:Its doesn't matter. This town is lost with hopeless players like TF in it.

Scum will kill me tonight. Good bye all. I now officially give up chasing Chaos wagon.

What makes you think your so high and mighty that the reds would single you out above the rest of town.

MortFeld · Post Post #2148 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:04 am

In post 2147, Naomi-Tan wrote:
In post 2131, ArcAngel9 wrote:Its doesn't matter. This town is lost with hopeless players like TF in it.

Scum will kill me tonight. Good bye all. I now officially give up chasing Chaos wagon.
What makes you think your so high and mighty that the reds would single you out above the rest of town.

Because she claimed Jailkeeper.

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #2149 (ISO) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:09 am

In post 2141, MortFeld wrote:Arc stop engaging the back and forth and try to work this out with me. If TF is as insufferable as you seem to think can you please just ignore him for now

Mort, I wanted this to work. Read all my posts again. How my emotions flowed throughout the game. I understand that i can't expect people to see things from my point of view, But for once, put yourself in my shoes and tell me what options i have when i lost hope on this group.

I started off the game thinking that HS is scum and TF is probably scum due to his insensitive options to hop into my wagon. After the endless conversations with both HS and TF, I changed my mind, I empathized with TF to understand his point of view better. I changed my read from possible scum to possible town because I felt that they are genuinely investing in-game unlike other players. I started re-looking other players to see If I can find good leads, I read as much as i could and I only end up finding a lot of newbie players who are appear to be scum only because of their poor play. Chaos is the only player who i found it odd in the rest of players, He is an experienced player, He knows to mafiascum as one of the pro-town players and also awarded as BEST TOWN PERFORMACE. I was taken back by his play in this game, this isn't how a pro-town player play, His lynch pool without leads further even pointed that he is possible scum. I started off cornering him to get responses from him, I gave him every opportunity to defend himself, He came back with reasons that he is not around yet making few posts only indicating that he is quietly lurking the game. As the wagon is building on him and he knew that he has to do something to take off the wagon on him and he doesn't want to invest time in defending himself, so he came back with a fake claim. A claim he knows that people buy it on day 1 without twisting it back thus can buy him more time in the game without being called out until day 2 or more. He hasn't expected that i come back strongly on him, if he is really the town-cop, he would have defended himself to prove me wrong but he rather choose to avoid me time and again, He not only hasn't responded a single question i have asked but continue not to focus on me, because he knows that he retaliate, he will have to answer to me which is ready to do it because that only will make him look suspicious.

With a lot of VI's in the game who don't understand the site meta end up twisting the wagon on me, this isn't scum expected but they don't care who we lynch today because the remaining is happily under shadow and not wanted to get in between this argument. I was dragged to a point that i was tired of arguing and was forced to claim myself as i am being lynched just in a day.

I never wanted people to lynch Cop0-claim. I was pushing everyone to see how has played the game so far. Its not his claim, its how he claimed and his motive for not being questioned. Everyone doing things as exactly Chaos wanted, He knows that town wont risk lynching claimed PR on day 1. Chaos was in no danger when he claimed, he only claimed because he doesn't want to answer or defend himself. All I wanted for this group to see his motive.

I went back and forth and i am really tired physically and emotionally. So, No I dont see a point in debating anyfurther when we have players with 4 year old child mentatlity who is gunning me back because i asked them to see things from my logical perspective

I know myself that i did everything i could to save the day and unfortunately i am stuck with kind of people who are acting like dog with bone. they don't want to let go of their perspective at any cost. The truth will be out now or later. And I will wait and let it happen as i lost my patience at this point.