Newbie 1756: Balloon (Game Over)

[Accountant]

Whose feelings were I directing in post 28, and how?

[MisaTange]

oh yeah the "directing feelings" is a combination of, well, that, and "i dunno whether they're playing as an IC or playing to whatever win con they had"

that post felt like the latter imo

[Accountant]

Shouldn't it be an NAI post then, by your own logic? You'd be thinking "I can't tell if Accountant is just being an IC or trying to further their win condition, so I guess this post is useless for determining their alignment". In that case, isn't it weird to bring this post up as a reason to scumread me?

[WeCanSimplyBeOurselves]

I'm laying off the criticism of other people's reads.

I'm not actually trying to convince anyone who disagrees with me of my this because it's

a well known

, sort of, psychological fact that if you heavily criticize a view that other people hold they just hold it

even stronger.

Scum may pretend to be convinced by me though.

Anyway, I'm exhausted, past 4.AM.

Goodnight.

[WeCanSimplyBeOurselves]

I'm just saying what I think is

true

ni night.

[Manuel87]

@Manuel: It's weird to me that you've been hard scumreading Tweet for the last few pages, but immediately sheep her onto a wagon she doesn't even strongly believe in("who will go here?"). Please explain this discrepancy.

I dont see a discrepancy. I am scumreading you as well and how she acts when you get pressured is something i am very interested in.
Looking at the last votecount its clear that my vote wasnt achieving anything.

[Accountant]

@Manuel: It's weird to me that you've been hard scumreading Tweet for the last few pages, but immediately sheep her onto a wagon she doesn't even strongly believe in("who will go here?"). Please explain this discrepancy.

I dont see a discrepancy. I am scumreading you as well and how she acts when you get pressured is something i am very interested in.
Looking at the last votecount its clear that my vote wasnt achieving anything.

Do you think me and Tweet are both scum?

[Transcend]

hi this is genuinely the first game where i like everyone in the game and don't feel like acting like an asshole at all

this lynch is seriously hurting me mentally and emotionally lol

[WeCanSimplyBeOurselves]

Ok I was wrong about Transcend. The way he unvoted Misa. If she's town he wouldn't unvote her like that... if she's scum he wouldn't have changed his mind and voted her again not long afterwards.

Transcend and Charloux are town.

I think we're right about Misa being one of the scum. Transcend is right that she does still seem to be playing cautiously.

Is Misa still at L-1?

Both Tweet and Manuel have been willing to change to accountant. Have Tweet and Manuel stopped going at each other? Because if so that's odd. Maybe I was wrong that they can't both be scum...?

[WeCanSimplyBeOurselves]

Manuel seems really clearly town though.

[WeCanSimplyBeOurselves]

Thatsit and Misa perhaps are scum. They both seem to be playing the most cautiously.

Accountant is right that Misa isn't cleared as town. She could have just lied about being a vanilla townie and she panicked about almost getting lynched so gave a bunch of reads. The way Transcend unvoted her but then voted back and really seemed to want to get the decision right regarding lynching her makes him clearly town to me now along with Charloux.

Intent to hammer Misa if she's still at L-1

[WeCanSimplyBeOurselves]

@Tweet: I am willing to push Accountant with you.
VOTE: Accountant

????

Really odd how you and Tweet are pushing accountant when you've been at each other's throats. I've been reading you as very clearly town, Manuel, but this is just odd.

[WeCanSimplyBeOurselves]

I mean Accountant could be scum but to suddenly be so willing to lynch him

with

Tweet instead of lynching Tweet.

[WeCanSimplyBeOurselves]

Only sure myself, Char and Transcend are town atm.

[WeCanSimplyBeOurselves]

Shouldn't it be an NAI post then, by your own logic? You'd be thinking "I can't tell if Accountant is just being an IC or trying to further their win condition, so I guess this post is useless for determining their alignment". In that case, isn't it weird to bring this post up as a reason to scumread me?

Very true. But of course even this post is also NAI. Hehe.

[WeCanSimplyBeOurselves]

I'm gonna read the posts since Misa claimed VT over and over to try and get to the truth of this.

[Transcend]

Everything about Misa screams scum except that appeal

That appeal REALLY makes me think twice ajslfskdkkdkdddk

[WeCanSimplyBeOurselves]

Damn. I really really like Misa's readlist too much to hammer her in a million years now.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: That's It

Town:

Char, Transcend, Misa.

I read Misa's post fully rather than skimming it. Didn't' see her read list before. I agree with it so much. It all seems to fit. And I agree that scum are damn good which is why it's so hard to figure out who they are. Although for this reason I'd swap Manuel and Accountant around in her read list. I think scum are That's It and Accountant.

[Transcend]

thatsit just screams mislynch bait to me

[Transcend]

it's like a read i'm not willing to let go of but holy fuck maybe i'm just dead wrong and he's scum.

[WeCanSimplyBeOurselves]

Well I gotta go with Accountant guys at this point.

I just noticed there's already 3 votes on him.

UNVOTE: That's It

VOTE: Accountant

Accountant is at L-1

Yeah I'd say Misa's read list is mostly accurate but I don't find Manuel scummy and I think based on her "Scum is pretty damn good" thing... I'd say Accountant makes the most sense to be Scum. But also perhaps herself!

Transcend and Char are definitely town.

I do think that Misa's post makes more sense as a genuine townie read list that got Accountant and Manuel the wrong way around and...

Wait... But the thing is. I think Misa is a good enough player to know that Manuel is rather clearly town.

I think you're right that perhaps Misa is trying to get us to lynch the inactive n00b, that's it.

Maybe Scum are pretty down good but we're also reading them...

correctly

. I think perhaps the "Scum is pretty damn good" thing is a double bluff. I don't understand why Accountant is so high on Misa's read list and Manuel so low. Manuel's placing and Accountant's placing is all I was confused about but now I'm thinking voting That's it makes no sense. So I'm thinking maybe she swapped things around on purpose. Manuel really doesn't make sense as being so scummy... nor does Accountant make sense as being so townie if "scum is pretty damn good"

And that's it does just seem like perhaps a newbie lynch bait.

But I am concerned that both Manuel and Tweet are both going after Accountant... that's just damn weird.

Ick. I don't know. I say we lynch Misa or Accountant. I'd say if one of them is town then Tweet is probably the other scum. I doubt they're both town!

I recommend when it comes to Misa or Accountant... we lynch whoever we'd learn the most from if they're mislynched.

Hopefully Misa or Accountant is scum and we lynch one of them... but if we mislynch one of them who would we learn the most from? Which is the least bad mislynch?

I basically think that's how we decide which one to lynch. I'm sure one of them are Scum.

I think Misa saying scum is pretty damn good, is something we might think she would never say if it meant her and accountant... but I think maybe scum

is

her and accountant. And they're hoping we don't lynch one of them but it looks like one of them is going to get lynched.

[Accountant]

Why has a no-resistance wagon on me blitzed to L-1 in 5 pages without anyone explaining why I'm scum or why Misa is town? I mean, everyone seems to be going off gut here, which is frustrating. I think scum is one of the people coasting to a mislynch against me pretending to "gut read" me as scum; because they know they won't have to provide any reasoning.

More importantly, why is Misa town?! Transcend, WCS, anyone? I don't need an elegant soliloquy on his obtownness, just something other than "idk he seems really town".

[WeCanSimplyBeOurselves]

When Tweet asked "Who will go here?" regarding Accountant... could she have been bussing?

I think perhaps we're confused because

some

bussing is going on.

[WeCanSimplyBeOurselves]

UNVOTE: Accountant[/vote]

Okay Charloux is right Accountant is definitely town.

[borkjerfkin]

Vc when i get to work