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ironstove · Post Post #700 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:18 pm

My first impressions thus far:

Spoiler:

In post 33, Sesq wrote:UNVOTE:

I need to stop doubleposting so much

scummy for telling people not to be active

In post 39, drealmerz7 wrote:vacation / limited access

it's for lurkers excusing their shitplay

Versus prodging......

In post 151, TTTT wrote:
In post 135, Drone wrote:VOTE: TTTT

You know why.

In post 136, Drone wrote:Wait! Actually you don't..

In post 137, Drone wrote:Welp, they're scum. That's why!

In post 139, Drone wrote:Mhmm! I was surprised myself when I found that out
OK, Nancy Drew, how about you explain what you are going on and on about...

TTTT seems a little nervous asking and trying to understand why he is being voted on in RVS.

In post 157, Kohai wrote:RB is at L-2. Please no more votes on him until I can fully catch up. I will treat any hammer as a scum claim.

Bad attempt to look towny here.

In post 175, Kohai wrote:
In post 170, Impoetic wrote:Let me rephrase: this is antitown because I am town risking letting people pile on a vote 7 pages in that most likely wouldn't flip scum, and then getting fosed for it, leading to potentially burning out multiple MLs due to my incompetence if it had happened.

If I were mafia, I'd be risking trading myself for a quicklynch d1, the day I imagine it's
least
suboptimal to quicklynch because flips help town and i heard scum rarely gets lynched d1 in forum mafia anyway. What's the scum thought process in doing that intentionally?

I can only imagine your argument is that I don't care who is lynched therefore I'm scum, but to that I'd point out that scum's first goal in the game -- or one of them, anyway -- is to look like they care who is lynched.
This feels contrived and feels like really bad WIFOM.

I don't agree with this reasoning, I also don't like how he didn't vote for his scum read.

In post 195, rb wrote:how the fuck did my wagon evaporate? scummiest wagon ive ever fucking seen tbh

In post 197, rb wrote:UNVOTE: TTTT

This feels really off, he's town reading TTTT for reasons that he thinks he's the scummiest player to vote. I don't sense a rxn test happening, seems more like a scum POV post laughing at town.

In post 232, Impoetic wrote:
In post 229, Transcend wrote:VOTE: Impoetic

TTTT is town but avatar is disturbing

rb is also still scummy

And last but not least- drealmerz is a mislynch

Aite cya
Haha no i'm pretty sure you can read me in forum mafia

why are you jumping on a mislynch when the person being voted is trying to contribute and the person doing the voting is half-assedly misconstruing every single thing I say and talking like I'm confscum when he's barely read me and I haven't had time to be conf-anything

you're better than this

I agree with this post. I don't understand the TTTT read here still.

Done w/ Page 12, will finish the rest tomorrow.

So far I like: Drone and Imp
Don't like: rb, transcend, sesq, and kohai.

Rest are still null for me.

iamafluffyrabbit · Post Post #701 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:22 pm

why do you like drone

iamafluffyrabbit · Post Post #702 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:25 pm

i dont like anything you just posted lmao

iamafluffyrabbit · Post Post #703 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:28 pm

wish that were alignment indicative with u

ironstove · Post Post #704 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:20 pm

In post 284, Drone wrote:
Spoiler: some reactions
In post 154, rb wrote:#LeaveDroneAlone
Oh if only if only..!

In post 159, iamafluffyrabbit wrote:
In post 156, Impoetic wrote:VOTE: rb
what is this vote...? explain?
It's called scum slipppppp!! Or is it?

In post 195, rb wrote:how the fuck did my wagon evaporate? scummiest wagon ive ever fucking seen tbh
Needless to say that some in this wagon were honest RVS, some an easy way for scum to jump in a wagon for a push, and open pathway for future LAMIST!

In post 203, Sesq wrote:I looked over the post orders and if you look at it closely, Impo was already unvoting before someone voted her, but she got ninja'd. My other points were just "off" things, that are more gut. Still can't understand you half the flippin time. Drealmerz seems to be doing a lot of misrepping and also 171, which does come across as scummy, but I don't feel comfortable voting it yet. So I'll stick to UNVOTE: . Yes, I'm aware how much I'm voteshifting. It's how I play/think/smell/eat pizza.

PEDIT: rb, your wagon was mostly a jokewagon, which was in of itself fairly NAI. A lot of unvotes were also due to new people coming up and being scummier (instead of just jumping off a fading wagon).

PEDIT: my beliefs continue to be confirmed by the above posts
That's one big joke then. Huh?

In post 215, Kohai wrote:
In post 211, Impoetic wrote:you're most likely town because statistically most people are town in the game, and the argument against me is assuming you're town so there's no point in considering the other scenario

That's gonna be a "When mathematical analysis goes wrong"

Are you seriously town reading someone because statistically they are more likely to be town? Wtf?
When mathematical analysis goes wrong..

In post 219, Sesq wrote:
In post 213, drealmerz7 wrote:Impoetic scum too
Why would that be? She's done a pretty smashing job of defending herself.

Pedit: I have literally no idea what you are trying to say to me dreal
It's called "making a mountain out of a slope".

In post 282, Sesq wrote:With drealmerz, they seem more like bad/derp town than scum to me so I'm not voting yet.
If they're town they're fine.
If they're scum they're very good!

I'm fine with Uzi, Kyouku, rb, Dream and Trancend.
Not liking Sesq.
Not liking Impoetic.

In post 285, Drone wrote:
In post 240, TTTT wrote:@rb
Plz explain that TR on me.
I mean, other than how your role PM told you that I'm not on your team.
Consistency is town trait
It's not a Newbie game, I think it's obvious and needless to say. But I can agree that it was a bit too early to give that read.

In post 241, TTTT wrote:@Transcend
Why is Imp scum?
I'm going to split posts just so you can enjoy my avatar more...
Because of the 101st point on Impoetic, durr!
In post 247, TTTT wrote:
In post 242, Sesq wrote:What strikes rb as scum to you?
Vote was based on gut upon game entry. Not really buying the cavalier meme-posting attitude on the first pages. Looks forced. Totally gut though.
Naked votes are best votes when entering a game.
Then rb said he couldn't remember why he was SRing ssbm.

Spoiler: Like this never happened
In post 78, rb wrote:
In post 54, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I just made a note "48 - enter rb:gets on the first wagon that is picking up with real intent but attributes his vote to an rvs policy lynch"
His motivation here is either scummy or towny so I'm hoping he's town
No way dude. You mean my motivation could be scummy OR towny? What an enlightening post, it's so good I think I might just

VOTE: ssbm

In post 94, rb wrote:we should have more ssbm votes tbh

sesq is probably town rn

In post 111, rb wrote:you can start by changing your vote to ssbm

In post 116, rb wrote:super saiyan blue majiffy is probably not town tbh

In post 119, rb wrote:
In post 117, Sesq wrote:
In post 116, rb wrote:super saiyan blue majiffy is probably not town tbh
Why do you think that?
post 54 is literally pointless fluff that serves no purpose except, 'look im contributing'

Upon wagon collapse, he gives me a TR.
TTTT goes like “look, I'm town alright? I have reasoning and I'm sure of what I'm doing" in this post. I'm buying it!

In post 248, TTTT wrote:
In post 244, rb wrote:scum look bad if the wagon goes through, ppl lost their minds about it getting to L-2. i'd be mislynch but everyone on the wagon would be under suspicion - you don't really seem to give a shit because ur not worried about it, so ur town enough for now
But that means you didn't consider I'm a good enough scum player to not freak out about L-2.
Then he just shits on it with "fuck it, no I'm scum".

And that's why TTTT is scum guys!

Specifically for these two posts.

Drone · Post Post #705 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:28 pm

The sharp change in Ironstove, much refreshing should I say.
The choice of quotes as basis for a townread are wise,
The choice of quotes as basis for a townread are thoughtful.

Walk with me through a magical path, read into Shannon's being.
Do you like what you sense?

Transcend · Post Post #706 (ISO) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:13 am

alright well i think,

ironstove · Post Post #707 (ISO) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:44 am

therefor you are?

Sesq · Post Post #708 (ISO) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:08 am

In post 700, ironstove wrote:My first impressions thus far:

Spoiler:
In post 33, Sesq wrote:UNVOTE:

I need to stop doubleposting so much
scummy for telling people not to be active

I was saying to myself that I wanted to stop doubleposting for less clutter by not impulsively clicking SUBMIT when I still have more thoughts, and it ends up making a mess. This is a terrible representation of a minor post

ironstove · Post Post #709 (ISO) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:25 am

In post 702, iamafluffyrabbit wrote:i dont like anything you just posted lmao

So you're in total disagreement with my town and scum reads so far? You think transcend is more towny than scummy from your POV?

iamafluffyrabbit · Post Post #710 (ISO) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:31 am

the sesq and drealmerz things seem like nonsense

i dont agree with your characterization of the TTTT post

the kohai sus is ok

my impression of drone is that i generally like him but idk about your reasoning

also im gonna slank for awhile now

V/LA until at least thursday, sorry

ironstove · Post Post #711 (ISO) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:51 am

Mostly caught up now, AMA

Spoiler:

VOTE: Transcend

Tone is rather off from previous town games I've been with him in, which gives me a very strong gut read that he's scum for this game.

ironstove · Post Post #712 (ISO) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:54 am

In post 710, iamafluffyrabbit wrote:the sesq and drealmerz things seem like nonsense

i dont agree with your characterization of the TTTT post

the kohai sus is ok

my impression of drone is that i generally like him but idk about your reasoning

also im gonna slank for awhile now

V/LA until at least thursday, sorry

I hadn't fully caught up yet with the game, I actually changed my read of sesq as I read further on and I'm null on TTTT, he's playing a little differently than his scum game, but maybe that's because he knows I'm here again and I fos'd him immediately on D1

Right now my scum list is {transcend, rb, kohai}.

ironstove · Post Post #713 (ISO) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:56 am

My 700 was more me posting my thoughts as I was catching up, not necessarily full reads which is why I did not place a vote at the time, you can look at 711 above if you want to see where and why I'm voting.

Impoetic · Post Post #714 (ISO) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:03 am

In post 704, ironstove wrote:
In post 284, Drone wrote:
Spoiler: some reactions
In post 154, rb wrote:#LeaveDroneAlone
Oh if only if only..!

In post 159, iamafluffyrabbit wrote:
In post 156, Impoetic wrote:VOTE: rb
what is this vote...? explain?
It's called scum slipppppp!! Or is it?

In post 195, rb wrote:how the fuck did my wagon evaporate? scummiest wagon ive ever fucking seen tbh
Needless to say that some in this wagon were honest RVS, some an easy way for scum to jump in a wagon for a push, and open pathway for future LAMIST!

In post 203, Sesq wrote:I looked over the post orders and if you look at it closely, Impo was already unvoting before someone voted her, but she got ninja'd. My other points were just "off" things, that are more gut. Still can't understand you half the flippin time. Drealmerz seems to be doing a lot of misrepping and also 171, which does come across as scummy, but I don't feel comfortable voting it yet. So I'll stick to UNVOTE: . Yes, I'm aware how much I'm voteshifting. It's how I play/think/smell/eat pizza.

PEDIT: rb, your wagon was mostly a jokewagon, which was in of itself fairly NAI. A lot of unvotes were also due to new people coming up and being scummier (instead of just jumping off a fading wagon).

PEDIT: my beliefs continue to be confirmed by the above posts
That's one big joke then. Huh?

In post 215, Kohai wrote:
In post 211, Impoetic wrote:you're most likely town because statistically most people are town in the game, and the argument against me is assuming you're town so there's no point in considering the other scenario

That's gonna be a "When mathematical analysis goes wrong"

Are you seriously town reading someone because statistically they are more likely to be town? Wtf?
When mathematical analysis goes wrong..

In post 219, Sesq wrote:
In post 213, drealmerz7 wrote:Impoetic scum too
Why would that be? She's done a pretty smashing job of defending herself.

Pedit: I have literally no idea what you are trying to say to me dreal
It's called "making a mountain out of a slope".

In post 282, Sesq wrote:With drealmerz, they seem more like bad/derp town than scum to me so I'm not voting yet.
If they're town they're fine.
If they're scum they're very good!

I'm fine with Uzi, Kyouku, rb, Dream and Trancend.
Not liking Sesq.
Not liking Impoetic.

In post 285, Drone wrote:
In post 240, TTTT wrote:@rb
Plz explain that TR on me.
I mean, other than how your role PM told you that I'm not on your team.
Consistency is town trait
It's not a Newbie game, I think it's obvious and needless to say. But I can agree that it was a bit too early to give that read.

In post 241, TTTT wrote:@Transcend
Why is Imp scum?
I'm going to split posts just so you can enjoy my avatar more...
Because of the 101st point on Impoetic, durr!
In post 247, TTTT wrote:
In post 242, Sesq wrote:What strikes rb as scum to you?
Vote was based on gut upon game entry. Not really buying the cavalier meme-posting attitude on the first pages. Looks forced. Totally gut though.
Naked votes are best votes when entering a game.
Then rb said he couldn't remember why he was SRing ssbm.

Spoiler: Like this never happened
In post 78, rb wrote:
In post 54, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I just made a note "48 - enter rb:gets on the first wagon that is picking up with real intent but attributes his vote to an rvs policy lynch"
His motivation here is either scummy or towny so I'm hoping he's town
No way dude. You mean my motivation could be scummy OR towny? What an enlightening post, it's so good I think I might just

VOTE: ssbm

In post 94, rb wrote:we should have more ssbm votes tbh

sesq is probably town rn

In post 111, rb wrote:you can start by changing your vote to ssbm

In post 116, rb wrote:super saiyan blue majiffy is probably not town tbh

In post 119, rb wrote:
In post 117, Sesq wrote:
In post 116, rb wrote:super saiyan blue majiffy is probably not town tbh
Why do you think that?
post 54 is literally pointless fluff that serves no purpose except, 'look im contributing'

Upon wagon collapse, he gives me a TR.
TTTT goes like “look, I'm town alright? I have reasoning and I'm sure of what I'm doing" in this post. I'm buying it!

In post 248, TTTT wrote:
In post 244, rb wrote:scum look bad if the wagon goes through, ppl lost their minds about it getting to L-2. i'd be mislynch but everyone on the wagon would be under suspicion - you don't really seem to give a shit because ur not worried about it, so ur town enough for now
But that means you didn't consider I'm a good enough scum player to not freak out about L-2.
Then he just shits on it with "fuck it, no I'm scum".

And that's why TTTT is scum guys!
Specifically for these two posts.

don't these posts make the flip off of me seem really odd to you? I felt like the flip was

really

fast, and if i did something that made me realistically obvtown to everyone who had previously SRed me where I wasn't until that point, I'm too dumb to figure it out on my own. I'm not an expert on VCA but I feel like some of those flips were scummy, and this is one of them.

Also whoever said you were misrepping sesq earlier (either fluffyrabbit or Roxy herself) was right.

Impoetic · Post Post #715 (ISO) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:05 am

drealmerz and sesq are two people i'm currently townleaning

sesq is far less of a serious read though, so i guess that's more null now. Nothing particularly scummy except for the lack of scummy things/standing out in general to me recently compared to earlier on.

I wouldn't be opposed to joining the luv wagon either

Impoetic · Post Post #716 (ISO) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:09 am

I feel like transcend is scum this game but last time I was SURE his tone was like that of his scumgame, i found out I was jumping to conclusions from too small a sample size, and he was town and had played far better than I had

so i'm really hesitant to push on and vote him today just for like, tone/LAMIST/disliking his reads

ironstove · Post Post #717 (ISO) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:20 am

No, I didn't find that flip to be too fast.

Transcend · Post Post #718 (ISO) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:34 am

Ur wrong

Don't try to meta me.

ironstove · Post Post #719 (ISO) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:38 am

Nice panic response. So it's you + rb. Ez game.

ssbm_Kyouko · Post Post #720 (ISO) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:11 am

In post 714, Impoetic wrote:if i did something that made me realistically obvtown to everyone who had previously SRed me where I wasn't until that point, I'm too dumb to figure it out on my own.

It wasn't any one post that made me think "Yeah, she's probably not a lynch today." It was the entirety of the conversation with rabbit that initially got me thinking this way. At first you did look scummy with all the wallposts that looked kinda scum AtE-esque, but the more I saw you post the more genuine it looked. I was fine following fluffy's read based on that since he seems the most town to me now and he seemed the most town to me then. You've done more things to solidify that TR since and I don't think anyone

should

be trying to lynch you today. It's possible that there were scum on your wagon at the time that hopped off because they realized that the town on your wagon were starting to TR you though. So people would get off your wagon whether they were town or not imo. I just skimmed the VCs and only saw Sesq, Kohai, Transcend, and ironstove on you but I could have sworn I was voting you.

Just checked myself, I was definitely voting you for about 12 hrs, mod must've been asleep,

post sinks

It was like page 17/18 and I was convinced by what rabbit was saying about how "scum can't fake interactions that fast" (unless you rehearsed that with rabbit in daytalk PT and I don't see rabbit as scum right now at all), that's like right where I was at.

ironstove · Post Post #721 (ISO) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:29 am

So Transcend, is Shannon still your strongest scum read? You want to see her lynched today because you're positive she's scum, right?

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #722 (ISO) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:43 am

Iron:

My first four games on here I got mislynched because I was trying a ton of new things at once rather than just adding things to my game slowly. I stopped doing that the first time I rolled scum and ever since then I haven't been what many would consider lynchbait. I can give you a completed town and scum game that accurately describes how I play since I play relatively the same as either alignment.

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #723 (ISO) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:05 pm

Is everyone scum reading Kohai for failing to deliver on his promises? Do you guys think he's trying to stall for 6-10 days?

TTTT · Post Post #724 (ISO) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:31 pm

@iron
I thought you called in sick to work.
why'd you stop posting yesterday?