Mini 1857 Mafia Thread

[ironstove]

RB, I'm not going to bother voting you, I think your wagon got formed too easily so I'm going to throw shade on my own read if it goes to L-1 and accuse transcend of trying to lead a mislynch because he picked up on my case for you but not kohai, so him + Kohai are scum. What do you think?

Also, I think if you're at L-1 and someone gives intent, you should hard claim cop so we at least find out who cop is, I can strongman the cop PR with JOAT.

[JaeReed]

I feel like I need to apologize for you guys drawing scum when you don't like it =( The RNG gods spoke though!

...I'm still sorry.

[rb]

LOL dw about it. Its just bad timing with rl stuff too :/

[rb]

And yeh was always gonna cop claim. Dont defend me btw, just lemme die imo

[rb]

If I even die that is. They wont suspect sesq+me as scumteam anyway

[ironstove]

sesq with the tactical site flake. I like it.

[mastin2]

Being scum can be awesome, you just have to take the right mindset towards it!
Of course the game's ongoing so I can't share any further, but be sure to ask postgame and I can maybe help you enjoy it more in future games.

[Sesq]

sesq with the tactical site flake. I like it.

whats that

also who dafuck is mastin2

[JaeReed]

One of the reviewers.... Also wrote a lot theory articles for the wiki/mastin academy in mafia discussion.

Spoiler:

just generally an all around amazing person and scummer, really

[ironstove]

I don't mind drawing scum when I have day chat. Day chat makes the game so much more enjoyable.

[rb]

Being scum can be awesome, you just have to take the right mindset towards it!
Of course the game's ongoing so I can't share any further, but be sure to ask postgame and I can maybe help you enjoy it more in future games.

tbh i have zero interest in the scum game because all i really care about is figuring stuff out. playing town in mafia is like the most fun thing in the entire world, but the entire concept of playing as 'mafia' in this game bores me to tears. the idea of deceiving ppl for fun just isn't coded into my being

im pretty happy to be bus-bait as i have like zero interest in defending myself rn lol

[rb]

and yes im aware this kinda almost ruins games for ppl, but i feel like i cant just auto-replace as scum because it'll become a thing wheere rb replacing is obvious scumslot which sucks and i also know lots of ppl enjoy playing with me and i enjoy playing (when town)

[rb]

LUL, time for more rolefishing

[rb]

i feel transcend's pain tbh, i know exactly why he knows exactly why i'm scum

[rb]

altho its true im working shitloads rn and super tired af, im barely posting at all anywhere so meh

[rb]

stay on my wagon 5ever Sesq <3

[ironstove]

If there is a jailer, what are the odds there is another protective role in the game?

I'm wondering if we should use strongman on jailer to guarantee the night kill, or perhaps ninja?

I'm actually not sure, my guess is maybe there is a tracker, but not cop. So jailer/tracker/BP?

So I was right about transcend being a PR, I wonder if fluffy is the other PR as well.

There's gotta be at least 3 PRs right? I'm not sure because this setup was double goon. If there are 3 PRs, I'd presume that jailer is the strongest, maybe you have 2 weaker roles.

Yea, I'm trying to think right now what's worse having the jailer stay alive for another day or having me hit as the target for being tracked? I'm not sure what the likelyhood is that I'll be tracker hit.... Maybe dream is a PR as well, the way he justified that your PR claim for BP is bad makes me feel like that's really weak logic, he probably lied about it so I wonder if he's actually BP, if that's the case then maybe I should save strongman for him.

@mod just to confirm strongman on JOAT can pierce BP, correct?

[ironstove]

Well, I guess having a day chat sort of counts as a second PR now that I think about it... Most normals don't provide with a day chat.

Hmm.

[ironstove]

Anyway, I'm thinking there isn't another protective, but if that's the case, I can hardly think of a reason not to use strongman on the jailer because strongman would be a useless role anyway. I'm paranoid that if we had sesq execute the kill on transcend, that he might jail her despite claiming she's a town read for him.

On the flip side, I'm paranoid that there is a tracker in the game that will hit me.

[ironstove]

Actually, what about not killing transcend? What if we killed fluff? Is that an absolutely horrible play? I feel like it would confuse people and make everyone suspect transcend if fluff flipped as a PR.

[JaeReed]

@mod just to confirm strongman on JOAT can pierce BP, correct?

Strongman functions as stated in the wiki.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Strongman

It will bypass all protective roles, to the exclusion of roles that prevent the victim from being targeted in the first place (such as commuter or hider).

[rb]

Just strongman transcend. He's guaranteed PR kill and if there is ANY other protective they'll be on him tonight. And if there's no other protective, we don't need the strongman again anyway so it's all sweet.

If there is, unless there's fkn 3 protectives then whatever game is rigged LUL

[rb]

He's also guut player generally and it will mean: Sesq ultra townread from transcend, Ultra townread from me tryna kill Sesq when I flip scum (if I do) = Sesq can win this imo

[rb]

Not sure who to rolecop, use your best common sense. Maybe one of the lurkier town, not sure.

Basically rolecop someone who you're not likely to NK anyeay. Don't rolecop the best town player you wanna kill - always kill the biggest threats, dw about rolecopping them.

[rb]

I feel like I need to apologize for you guys drawing scum when you don't like it =( The RNG gods spoke though!

...I'm still sorry.

I <3 u Jae-sama