Newbie 1752: Wave - Game Over

[Creature]

Also, Tenshii, if you're there, maybe stating "not hammering" would help a lot.

[Creature]

Damn, Blake and Charloux disappeared. If Tenshii turns out to be scum and gets in, maybe it would've been better if you weren't quick to put someone at L-1.

[Creature]

If i were mafia and in Tenshii's shoes i wouldn't cc, but rather push for a Creature lynch.

Well i determined yesterday that it would be either Drone+Creature or Tenshii+Blake.
VOTE: Creature

Didn't see you determining that before this post.

[Blakebtb23]

UNVOTE: creature
No need to put him at L-1 yet, a Tenshii quickhammer would be heartbreaking, although I am very confident he is town at this point.

Ok Creature, convince me you ain't scum.

[Creature]

Meh, I can't convince in only one post.

[Creature]

but my ISO could convince.

[Creature]

Yeah, don't think Tenshii is scum.

[Blakebtb23]

so who do you think is scum

[Creature]

idk, you seemed towny today.

[Creature]

Do you think the "there must have one scum in the Hellfire wagon" is valid?

[Blakebtb23]

It's possible there was 0 scum in it. What do you think about it?

[Blakebtb23]

Before the night, you said you were confident Charloux was town. Today, youve said me and Tenshii are very towny. Why did you think Charloux was town, and do you still think that?

[Charloux]

@Blake: We need 3 votes to lynch somebody. So, if you really townread Tenshii that much, you wouldn't need to unvote. Heck, if he doesn't hammer then he is confirmed.

[Tenshii]

Creature commit to a read and I'll sheep you.

[Creature]

Okay, I got time now.

[Creature]

I'll see if I can find something interesting, otherwise I'll go with my gut.

[Creature]

If Turkish was aiming to look like he's scum hunting, I'm not sure if he would do what he did early.

[Creature]

Do you think attacking someone for saying "I'm town" is something scum would do?

(Aimed at anyone who wants to answer)

[Blakebtb23]

Not necessarily, I think its more indicative of a bad player, but it could be scummy

So creature it sounds like you're scum reading charloux, but at the end of last day you said you were very confident Charloux was town, can you explain were that read came from and what changed for you since then. Also please stop being so vague in everything you do because we have made very little progress today

[grapes]

DAY 5 VOTECOUNT 01

Creature (1):

Charloux

Not Voting (3):

Blakebtb23, Tenshii, Creature

With 4 votes in play, 3 are needed to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2016-12-13 22:07:02)

Kavinsky - Odd Look

[Creature]

[quote="In post 1193, Blakebtb23"][/quote]
I thought he was indeed baiting himself to be NKed and I kind of agreed with ssbm.

[Blakebtb23]

I assume you're saying you townread charloux for the same reasons, but do you still town read charloux?

[Creature]

A bit, but I can't townread everybody, so I'll look at posts scum would be less concentrated to make.

[Creature]

Some of your posts look good, but I'm worried you took effort to make them. While I know Turkish and Charloux are less likely to focus on making good posts.

[Blakebtb23]

I just reread pages 30-32, everyone should do the same, I feel like that's where a lot of info about charloux and creature and there interactions with drone.

Creatures latest posts along with Tenshii's townread of him made me want to reread him and charloux thoroughly

For me what it comes down to is charloux's fake cop play. Initially I town read this, but after rereading while keeping in mind that he would be roleblocker if he was scum, it made me scumread the play a lot more. If he's RB, he knows its either a cop or BP setup. He knows his play might get the cop to claim, which char can then say his claim was a fake claim like he did, and then RB the cop at night. If it was the BP setup, he can stay with a vague cop claim or he can say it was a fake claim to gain some town credit. He might also get a read on who is BP/JK and be able to roleblocker them

We can also look at why they let drone do two night kills in a row. Charloux might have suspected it was BP setup, and might have been worried the jailkeeper would jail him based on his weird cop play. He would let drone kill. Then they must have assumed they hit the BP, because they let drone kill again.

Finally, charloux put creature at L-1 right away today. I feel like all town would be suspicious of everyone, and would not risk a L-1 in MyLo. I was 95% sure Tenshii was town, but there's no reason to risk that 5% when we still can discuss a lot. I feel as if Charloux knew for sure Tenshii was town, and the only way charloux would know that is if he is the mafia.

As for Creature, I scumread you because all your posts are so short and vague and never had any explanations, it just seemed so different than everyone else that I scumread you. When you unvoted Tenshii on page 30, it made me start to townread you. Even though you didn't say anything, I could infer that you were scared that charloux would hammer because you scumread charloux, so you got rid of the L-1, that was a very towny move.

One last thing on Charloux, his reasoning for voting cloud was atrocious, as was everyone elses. He said he was sick of how cloud bullied people, it sounds like an easy excuse to join the wagon, when in reality it was a vote that had nothing backed in gameplay.

Sorry for no quotes, Im on mobile. But ya, that's where I stand now after doing a bit of rereading. Reread 30-32 please.

VOTE: charloux