New Year's Eve Masquerade Ball - [Game Over]

[Dunnstral]

MDS's post 888 might be contender for worst single post in the whole thread.

Why?

Because I totally agree with this btw and voiced as much

[inspectorscout]

@is: 1) she's my partner
2) nahdia is IC so why do you care about why she's asking the question?

I forgot she was your partner, I thought she was with someone else. Sorry.

I do think it's important to follow her thought process, even if she's the IC. Not to figure her out (obviously) but to help me find how she thinks. In this case I was just dumb though.

Why do you care how she thinks? She's the ic. You don't have to sort her at all.

Because she might see stuff I don't?
I always try to figure out how everyone thinks, regardless of if they're IC.

[Dunnstral]

Pieguyn, sell me on that wagon.
My scumread of jester is weakening and I have nothing on mds.

you didn't ask me to sell you

[Human Sequencer]

I don't trust you as much~
Besides that your reads are probably trash~
Just like last game~

By all means, go ahead.

[The_Jester]

I BUDDY AT ALL TIMES I'M A FRIENDLY PERSON OK :<

[Dunnstral]

Seeing how the last game went, I think it's better to push a lynch on your own partner instead of suiciding if you think they are scum.
Town have more info if there is a lynch.

Fwiw this almost exactly mirrored what I'd said to pie in our PT earlier. Minor possible partner points there, thought I'd like to think they wouldn't make that easy of an error.

Also exactly mirrors what I said earlier:

Can you stop giving up by the way

If you think he's town don't leave the dance. Make other people vote for him.

I don't townread him enough to trust in my own abilities

You shouldn't suicide a null read.

Make other people vote for him. Even if he's scum we get information

There shouldn't be any case where you do that

I'm saying town gets more information and scum have to potentially reach to try to lynch him.

If he's scum, we still get more information from a lynch

You don't know what a last resort is. You just want to die a hero. But you're not.

[mhsmith0]

@is: 1) she's my partner
2) nahdia is IC so why do you care about why she's asking the question?

I forgot she was your partner, I thought she was with someone else. Sorry.

I do think it's important to follow her thought process, even if she's the IC. Not to figure her out (obviously) but to help me find how she thinks. In this case I was just dumb though.

Why do you care how she thinks? She's the ic. You don't have to sort her at all.

Because she might see stuff I don't?
I always try to figure out how everyone thinks, regardless of if they're IC.

OK let's do a hypothetical.

After hes done
Why pie out of all people?

What would be a hypothetical answer nahdia might give to that question that would actually enhance your understanding of her thought process in a useful way? If her role was unknown, then it's a plausible scum-hunting question (maybe she's just doing busy work, etc.). But since she's the IC, and doesn't need to be sorted, what kind of answer might she give to that question that might actually be useful?

I look at your question, and it reads like you're trying to see if nahdia's question has any use at all, which only really makes sense as a scum-hunting poke, but again, it can't be that unless you forgot she was the IC. So I really want to know what it was actually useful for, other than a generic "I'm trying to understand her better"

[Dunnstral]

I don't trust you as much~
Besides that your reads are probably trash~
Just like last game~

By all means, go ahead.

Who are you talking to

[Human Sequencer]

You.

[MiniDeathStar]

Did Smith just fall one level further down the scumpile for everyone, or was it just for me? I felt like that jab at inspector was incredibly far-fetched.

Reaching...

[inspectorscout]

What would be a hypothetical answer nahdia might give to that question that would actually enhance your understanding of her thought process in a useful way? If her role was unknown, then it's a plausible scum-hunting question (maybe she's just doing busy work, etc.). But since she's the IC, and doesn't need to be sorted, what kind of answer might she give to that question that might actually be useful?

I look at your question, and it reads like you're trying to see if nahdia's question has any use at all, which only really makes sense as a scum-hunting poke, but again, it can't be that unless you forgot she was the IC. So I really want to know what it was actually useful for, other than a generic "I'm trying to understand her better"

An anwer could be:
"Because I scumread her."
Or
"Because she hasn't posted a lot yet, and I want to see how he reacts to having to comment on a person for who there is not a popular read yet."
Or
"Because I'm unsure about what to think of her."

She could've asked that because she voiced a scumread on you (?) and tried to test you, like in scenario 2. She could've because she was unsure herself, like in scenario 3. She could have asked it because she scumread you and wanted to create associative tells in case the two of you are scum. Really, there are a lot of possible answers/reasons, and all of these help me find out where she is in this game.

[mhsmith0]

Did Smith just fall one level further down the scumpile for everyone, or was it just for me? I felt like that jab at inspector was incredibly far-fetched.

It's probably just you, but the inspector WK is interesting.

[Dunnstral]

???

HA

what is that post

I nailed the scum team last game? ? ?

And you've been buddying me here
Hello ? ?

[Parama]

I never said Cerb is scummy for what Jester said.

way behind but this sticks out to me as a bold faced lie.

You explicitly said you agreed with jester's reasoning for scum reading cerb

Why are you trying to pass off any blame to jester?

[Parama]

Jester has a point about Cerb.

sup my dudes

[mhsmith0]

What would be a hypothetical answer nahdia might give to that question that would actually enhance your understanding of her thought process in a useful way? If her role was unknown, then it's a plausible scum-hunting question (maybe she's just doing busy work, etc.). But since she's the IC, and doesn't need to be sorted, what kind of answer might she give to that question that might actually be useful?

I look at your question, and it reads like you're trying to see if nahdia's question has any use at all, which only really makes sense as a scum-hunting poke, but again, it can't be that unless you forgot she was the IC. So I really want to know what it was actually useful for, other than a generic "I'm trying to understand her better"

An anwer could be:
"Because I scumread her."
Or
"Because she hasn't posted a lot yet, and I want to see how he reacts to having to comment on a person for who there is not a popular read yet."
Or
"Because I'm unsure about what to think of her."

She could've asked that because she voiced a scumread on you (?) and tried to test you, like in scenario 2. She could've because she was unsure herself, like in scenario 3. She could have asked it because she scumread you and wanted to create associative tells in case the two of you are scum. Really, there are a lot of possible answers/reasons, and all of these help me find out where she is in this game.

You're making a list of things she could have said but are failing to explain why any of them would actually be helpful to you.

Let's start with the first one: that she thinks pie is a wolf (it's a reasonably obvious possible answer). Having her out that read at a time when pie isn't under pressure isn't necessarily helpful to anyone, since if pie is suspicious it's more helpful to have other people be bringing up points there, and then if pie flips wolf you can better evaluate who pressured her and why. Like, walk through that scenario, where the actual answer is that nahdia suspects pie, and come up with a town-positive reason for her to out that suspicion, because I don't see any.

Instead, it looks like you're either fake scum-hunting the IC or maybe just asking the IC to tell you what to think. Which is, at best, lazy town.

[Human Sequencer]

Except that time where you tried to switch the wagon onto me~
When did I buddy you this game?

MH, I understand where you're coming from and that post rose an eyebrow for me, but I really do think Scout just made a dumb mistake and that you're chasing a red herring.
Scumscout forgets that nahdia is IC 'Oops, I shouldn't have said that, that makes no sense'
Townscout forgets that nahdia is IC 'Oops, I shouldn't have said that, that makes no sense'
NAI.

[Parama]

lynching anywhere else is insanity imo

anyways not gonna try and catch up on 15 pages on my phone so I'll do it later

[inspectorscout]

I didn't forget she was the IC, though.

[mhsmith0]

MH, I understand where you're coming from and that post rose an eyebrow for me, but I really do think Scout just made a dumb mistake and that you're chasing a red herring.
Scumscout forgets that nahdia is IC 'Oops, I shouldn't have said that, that makes no sense'
Townscout forgets that nahdia is IC 'Oops, I shouldn't have said that, that makes no sense'

Sure, but that's not what his answer was. He's arguing that his intention was to better understand Nahdia, even though she's the IC. And he's struggling to explain how, in the world where he did in fact remember that she was the IC (which is what he seems to be representing), why his questioning was in any way useful.

[Human Sequencer]

OK now maybe you're onto something MH.

[Dunnstral]

When did I buddy you this game?

YOu townread me immediately

[Gamma Emerald]

One of my preferred scumhunting methods is watching people interact with confirmed town. Scum will try to discredit them any way they can.

[Dunnstral]

Except that time where you tried to switch the wagon onto me~

And then reconsidered, realized I was wrong, and voted the two scum

I was actively figuring things out

[mhsmith0]

OK now maybe you're onto something MH.

Perhaps. I probably need to ISO him and see where that goes, but at the very least that was a ping and something he did a pretty poor job defending on.