New Year's Eve Masquerade Ball - [Game Over]

[Gamma Emerald]

The most condemning thing for Shadow IMO is his unwillingness to give more reads than 1 or 2. It demonstrates he's in a deathtunnel, and is likely trying to avoid giving reads on his buddies. I know Shadow is good at finding scum as town so he should be able to give some other reads.

[Kagami]

HS, I think it's jester-gamma-?, though I don't disagree that shadow pair deserves death regardless of alignment.

[MariaR]

btw if somehow our pair and gamma's pair are both town (and that I doubt)
Human needs to be lynched right after with 0 questions

[Shadow_step]

Spoiler: Kagami

Alright, I'm ok with vedith-town.

VOTE: Jester-Pair

VOTE: Shadow Pair

jester, where's your gamma vote?

VOTE: Gamma pair

Absolutely zero read progression.

One moment she's okay with Vedith town, other moment she is voting Gamma.

[Vedith]

though I don't disagree that shadow pair deserves death regardless of alignment.

Lol wut?

[Vedith]

Like seriously gamma look at how I interacted w/ Vedith earlier,

if I was scum

and shadow was scum there is no way I wouldn't switch to pushing the Vedith lynch.

Day 3 lynch this if no scum in Maria/Shadow.
Day 2 lynch me and Gamma if no scum in Maria/Shadow

[Shadow_step]

And Kagami still hasn't answered my questions. I'm sure she asks me to quote them now. Because "I must have missed it"

[MiniDeathStar]

Why is everybody suddenly arranging lynches for like 2 days from now? Calm down please.

Sorry I'm not pushing the Shadow wagon but Jester is pretty set on both of them being town and I trust his judgement.

[Shadow_step]

HS, I think it's jester-gamma-?, though I don't disagree that shadow pair deserves death regardless of alignment.

Scum calling out for a PL.

[Shadow_step]

Maybe just lynching shadow is correct, regardless.

Parama is not wrong that it's very strange to say "Why are you doing something that will just get you NKed?" to someone you're scumreading.

The town-shadow explanation there is that he finds Cerb's behavior odd and was poking at oddities without really thinking through the implications of them, which weighs against the probability that scum-shadow was poking at him in an effort to appear townish and did so in a very clumsy way. I don't think it's quite the smoking gun Parama is making it out to be, but meh.

I still don't like jester's early play and I don't have any terribly fuzzy feeling about MDS either. I think scum-MDS would probably have held out for just a bit, but if there was already a pre-established pairing plan, that may have itself looked suspicious. Jester's "In fact I know you do, therefore my question should be: are you brave enough?" bit makes a show of saying "I'm totes going to be sorting you (because I am town)," which is counterproductive to any real attempt to establish a read. I'm treating 17 as a joke, but I find it strange that no one jumped on that. It's exactly the sort of low-hanging-fruit comment that usually attracts a scumread nibble. I'm also concerned that pretty much everyone had jester/mds as some level of scumread, but they didn't get any real attention at dance-start.

tl;dr: down for lynching either of those pairs, somewhat prefer jester. Ended up with much more text than I'd like.

Before this post, Kagami gets called out for popping in between. Posting one liners and fucking off. Then this post comes at a convenient time.

I don't understand the MDS scum read.
She initially votes MDS-Jester. Then a lot of vote switching.
As scum its always good to get someone who is not getting scum read a lot lynched first and save the people being widely scum read for later lynches. It's just easier this way.
This feels a lot like that.

[Shadow_step]

@HS you are wrong about the fact that scum don't need to read the thread. It is the complete opposite. I as scum would prefer a game with minimal posts than town hyper posting. If you don't read the thread you'll slip and scum can't afford that.

All of SAD's complaints about not wanting to read the thread because it is too much garbage feels fake as fuck.

[Gamma Emerald]

@HS you are wrong about the fact that scum don't need to read the thread. It is the complete opposite. I as scum would prefer a game with minimal posts than town hyper posting. If you don't read the thread you'll slip and scum can't afford that.

All of SAD's complaints about not wanting to read the thread because it is too much garbage feels fake as fuck.

Why are you saying this NOW?

[Shadow_step]

So basically we lynch Jester, cerb, Shadow and win.
Easy game, easy money.

Shadow
mh

I haven't payed any attention to the other too except for cerb's godawful post.

Should I say this post game or something?

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean as opposed to when SHE FIRST POSTED THE THING ABOUT SCUM NOT READING.

[Shadow_step]

I commented on it. I'm just explaining it further.

[Shadow_step]

I'm reading MDS as town and Jester is town by POE. Otherwise I don't have a town read on Jester for any other reason.

I don't think scum! MDS would even bother reconsidering her read on me and unvote. She gains nothing by making me TR her cause I'm got to get lynched sooner rather than later.

[Shadow_step]

though I don't disagree that shadow pair deserves death regardless of alignment.

Lol wut?

I don't feel good about mh. Usually he town tells a lot and this game he just feels very passive. I'm giving him the benefit of doubt for now. I'd like to see more activity from him.

[Shadow_step]

That quote shouldn't be there. ^^

Anyway that's where I'm at currently. Don't have much of a read on inspector. I'll iso him tomorrow. Now sleeping.

[Kagami]

Pie~~~~~

[Vedith]

Who the fuck is MHS and why is he pretending to be in the game?!

[Vedith]

Pie~~~~~

And Pie, and Cerb...

[Gamma Emerald]

mhs = mhsmith

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Sorry I'm not pushing the Shadow wagon but Jester is pretty set on both of them being town and I trust his judgement.

Unvote

Vote: MDS

This is scum she has literally done nothing but fence sit how aren't people seeing these terrible posts. And now she uses Jester reads to give more non commital reads.

I'm sorry but I refuse to believe that MDS is a townie who is so attached to Jester that she is literally playing the game through him.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Also mhsmith has done nothing but give thoughts on setup and hardcore lurk and I'm not dropping my scumread on him nor forgetting it so he can continue to lurk hoping he's gonna skate by.

[Dunnstral]

Seeing how the last game went, I think it's better to push a lynch on your own partner instead of suiciding if you think they are scum.
Town have more info if there is a lynch.

Fwiw this almost exactly mirrored what I'd said to pie in our PT earlier. Minor possible partner points there, thought I'd like to think they wouldn't make that easy of an error.

I just came across this again and realized there's something really off about mhsmith here

His logic here is working off the assumption that scum have a daytalk pt... but he doesn't talk about that, and it's not written in the setup info that scum have daytalk

So what's this about?