Newbie 1756: Balloon (Game Over)

[Loopdan]

Probably a bad word choice. Replace "suspicious" with "wary."

I want to say Tweet is town, but her prior game makes me super wary.

[Loopdan]

Here are my Norska notes:

Page 4 - Norska votes then unvotes Charl and seems real concerned with how others view his play
157- Norska apologizes for playing scummy. Gives out TRs to Acct and Transc (don’t like)
201- norsk votes Charl- seems ok reasoning
202- Charl’s reads (norsk=scum)
204- Charl votes Norsk
207- Norsk looks scuuuuumy - so concerned with how others view him
212- Norsk has Tran as strong town
260- Norsk with decent explanation of TR on Tran (his best post so far)
564- Norsk drops in to V/LA in the middle of Misa wagon drama ←SCUMMY!
611- Charl says if Misa flips town to look at Norska
653- Tran reads: one scum in (tweet, Acct) one scum in (norsk, charl)
656- Tran votes Norsk
661- Ding! Scumpost from Norsk
680- Norska talks about reading his own iso, and “not confident on any of my reads at the moment” ← SCUM!
683- Norska reluctantly says thatsit and Manuel are SRs
714- Norska just wants to be liked

I have much more confidence in this read than my second scum-read (thatsit).

[Loopdan]

zzzzzzzzzz

[Accountant]

Talk to me about Manuel. You've been largely ignoring him.

[borkjerfkin]

replacing charloux

[borkjerfkin]

Deadline will be extended.

I will let you know by how much when this slot is filled

[borkjerfkin]

JaeReed replaces Charloux.

Deadline has been extended by 24 hours.

[borkjerfkin]

Votecount 2.6

[2] Loopdan (Accountant, Morning Tweet)
[1] NorskaBlue (Loopdan)
[1] thatsit (Manuel87)

[3] Not Voting (JaeReed, NorskaBlue, thatsit)

With 7 alive, it is 4 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 11:00:00)

[Accountant]

Welcome Jae!

[JaeReed]

Yo, I'm here.

Questions before I put in the effort to somewhat read up:
Who led the D1 lynch and why? What was the flip?
What are the cases against Loopdan, Norska, and thatsit?
Accountant, are you scum?

[Accountant]

I led the D1 lynch on Misa, who was town.
Loopdan's case is mostly due to his predecessor, Transcend, being very shaky/inconsistent about thatsit then naked voting me, making excuses and subbing out after I pressed him on it.
Loopdan made a Norska case in 751.
I personally think the biggest piece of evidence against thatsit is the people who are magically townreading him and won't explain why.

No, I'm not scum.

[Morning Tweet]

Spoiler: Opinions about/Questions for Loopdan's Norska case

(Minus your notes on Transcend and Charloux's reads + towny Norska posts)

157- Norska apologizes for playing scummy. Gives out TRs to Acct and Transc (don’t like)

Do you think town!Norska would townread different players?

207- Norsk looks scuuuuumy - so concerned with how others view him

Are you sure he's scummily concerned about how others view him? What possible motivation would scum!Norska have for saying:

"I'll possibly survive today, but I'm being read as scum be pretty much everyone."

,

"Better as in safer. If Char gets lynched, it won't be directly my fault. Cowardly yes, but cowards live longer."

564- Norsk drops in to V/LA in the middle of Misa wagon drama ←SCUMMY!

I'm gonna have to disagree on that one. Frequent V/LA's? Sure, I could see that. This particular V/LA however I'm almost certain was not scum-motivated, even if Norska's scum.

661- Ding! Scumpost from Norsk

Again with the Transcend/Accountant townread thing.

680- Norska talks about reading his own iso, and “not confident on any of my reads at the moment” ← SCUM!

Yes, he could be keeping his options open to aid a scum agenda. Doesn't scream scum to me, he's definitely shown that he's not very opinionated so far throughout this game.

683- Norska reluctantly says thatsit and Manuel are SRs

See above.

714- Norska just wants to be liked

Not sure how this post differs from his apologetic posting thus far.

After 11 pages...

scum= charl, Manuel (maybe norsk)
town= thatsit
no idea on Acct or Tweet

Why did you stop to explain your reads here?

Accountant may be partially referring to this about ignoring Manuel, in case you missed it Loop.

[JaeReed]

Plus, I don't have any "real" scumhunting experience yet, so I think I'll be learning more in this game than I did in my first.

MT, while you're here, what did you mean by real scumhunting experience?

[Morning Tweet]

Plus, I don't have any "real" scumhunting experience yet, so I think I'll be learning more in this game than I did in my first.

MT, while you're here, what did you mean by real scumhunting experience?

Scumhunting is something I attribute to this website, this is my first game as a townie.

[JaeReed]

I personally think the biggest piece of evidence against thatsit is the people who are magically townreading him and won't explain why.

How many people?

[Accountant]

Transcend(Loopdan's slot) and I think Tweet also expressed a townread on him.

[JaeReed]

Was there a counterwagon to Misa D1?

[Manuel87]

VOTE: thatsit
His sudden activity early day 2 when he avoided posting the entire time at the end of day 1.
Starting the day with throwing shade on Charloux and Transcend.

Later he wants to look for scum in the ppl that didnt vote Misa instead of directly saying he thinks i am scum.
His reason for me being the scum in the non Misa votes (thatsit, Tweet, Manuel) is awful and when i question it he suddenly disappears again.

Later he posts a Prodge instead of answering questions or giving a readslist which i am still waiting for since the end of day 1.

My case on thatsit.
He is most likely replaced though.
Time is pressing and we should decide on a lynch. Nolynch would only benefit scum.

@borkjerfkin: will the deadline be extended again when thatsit gets replaced?

@Loop: would you consider voting thatsit over Norska?

@JaeReed:
Accountant was at L-1 for a moment with
Tweet, Manuel, Misa, WCSBO on it.

WCS switched back to Misa followed by Transcend and Charloux (your slot) hammered.

[borkjerfkin]

@borkjerfkin: will the deadline be extended again when thatsit gets replaced?

He's V/LA.

[JaeReed]

Alright

While i do approve of the votes on Charloux I'm gonna be SE-y for a bit and say that we can be wrong on him and I don't want a derp hammer happening while he's unable to defend himself. Giving him a chance to defend himself is fair imo.

Who's scum with thatsit in your opinion, Manuel?

[JaeReed]

Urgh the forum quote thing. ^ Originally quoted to mention it seemed LAMIST ftr. Decided I didn't really think it was AI.

[Accountant]

I don't buy Norska/thatsit scum. Both are kinda newbies who haven't been paying much attention to the game, so I'd expect them to go for the Doctor claim over WCS.

[JaeReed]

You don't buy

either

of them being scum?

[Manuel87]

Alright

While i do approve of the votes on Charloux I'm gonna be SE-y for a bit and say that we can be wrong on him and I don't want a derp hammer happening while he's unable to defend himself. Giving him a chance to defend himself is fair imo.

Who's scum with thatsit in your opinion, Manuel?

My guess would be Accountant.
Tweet and me both stated a scumread on Accountant at the end of day 1.
All of thatsits early day 2 posts pointed away from Accountant probably trying to help him.
This would also explain his sudden activity early day 2.

Norska is a possibility too.

[Accountant]

Why do you interpret thatsit's D2 posts as him being my scumbuddy as opposed to him simply having a townread on me or trying to buddy me? That makes no sense. You're arranging facts to fit a pre-arranged conclusion.