New Year's Eve Masquerade Ball - [Game Over]

[Human Sequencer]

Nahdia, please post more, your reads are incredibly valuable.

Tell me about Cerb, what does your pt contain and what is your read on him?

[Dunnstral]

I can't see anything FakeGod has said that implies otherwi

That's why I'm "that guy"

[MiniDeathStar]

I believe we lose if we run out of time during the second dance and mafia are still in the game.

[Dunnstral]

Thanks for the clarification fakegod


wait a minute

[MiniDeathStar]

Damn, I alt slipped. SORRYYYYYYY.

Really though, there's no other way to interpret it. We run out of time during second dance, we lose.

[Dunnstral]

1. Kagami - been suspecting her tens of pages back, already explained why. I'm not voting her because it wouldn't get traction.

But I was talking about it before =/

[MiniDeathStar]

But you asked literally everybody what they thought of her and the most you got was "eh she could be scum I guess, idk". Nobody voted her. That's what I meant by no traction.

[Dunnstral]

Oh yea

I wrote that down actually

coming soon

I intended to write about everyone but it was mostly about Kagami and I got sidetracked a few times

[Dunnstral]

I'll start off with Kagami and this is going to be the longest one and contain the most new info... also I'm going to mix in reads on other people a lot here so bear with me I'm not that organized

First of all I may or may not be biased and want her to be town

I don't really know what she's doing. I asked why she wasn't responding to shadow in my pt and she said there was nothing for her to respond to. Thing is I know she her reads did transition in the pt but it didn't show in the main thread and she isn't defending herself so it looks bad. (Says she's posted enough for reads to be interpret-able and pie will get it)

Speaking of the pt, she's active in there too. She's got 65 posts in the main thread and ~60 in the pt and I'm willing to bet that's more than anybody else's half here (might be partially my influence as well)

Going to summarize some of Kagami's thoughts that I don't think need to be hidden (I'm outing mine too so)

-Really early in thinks jesterpair is correct choice. I agree with this
-Early on she thinks one of shadow-mariar and and gamma-vedith are town-town
-This read has shifted to now scumreading gamma, and thinking shadow-maria might be town-town
-Also thinks the ic pairing is town, along with us and hs-parama
-I've voiced suspicions on HS (mostly in-thread and tying in Kagami) while Kagami thinks HS is town but parama might need to be looked at (still thinks they're t-t for now)
. . . -I think Parama is town but question HS. Don't think either of us would lynch this right now/today though
-Says that if she were scum, she'd have paired with sickofit instead of me who scumread her
-Points out that jester townreads shadow but doesn't vote gamma though he scumreads gamma
. . . -This prompted me to ask about him intending to place a vote
. . . -Kagami made a good point very recently saying that Jester's townread on Parama is weird considering the strong townread on Shadow from the start


Note that when I pushed kagami as scum nobody bit, to the point where it seemed like everyone just said she was "lean town" when (imo) the read wasn't deserved
Based off of this I want to feel as if I'm not being pushed at all because I'm paired with Kagami.
In response kagami said she was a little offended that I assumed she was a weak scum player

As for her scumreads, they're jester, gamma, and mhsmith maybe in that order

In response to me she said if mhsmith were scum he'd be spending a low amount of effort sorting out his pt
. . . -This prompted me to ask mhsmith about his pt, to which the response from him and pie was that they hadn't really done anything (pie noted that mhsmith was 'passive')


Just from reading i got a gut townread on pie (not terribly important)
I feel as if mhsmith is mafia. I also feel good about Gamma being mafia

I've come to townread S.A.D and kagami agrees here. We're both "meh" on inspectorscout though it's not something that needs to be sorted immediately.
. . . -Kagami thinks that if mhsmith is scum this pair is very likely t-t


And that's all I have effort to write for now; ended up just being about Kagami... don't regret

To sum up my other reads:

I scumread mhsmith. In fact;
VOTE: Mhsmith-Pieguy

I still scumread gamma pair

Kagami suspects Jester pair
Current thoughts on Kagami pending

[Vedith]

Does walking off the dance floor end day as if a lynch?

[Dunnstral]

it resets the timer

if two people walk off mafia then get their kill

[Dunnstral]

two people as in two pairs

[Vedith]

It makes me laugh how much Dunn wants to shine away from lynch either group in me/gamma and Maria/Shadow.

For information alone, lynching these hroups are the only option.

[Vedith]

Does the flip happen when walking off, or at the end of day?

[Dunnstral]

Nice analysis of my post

Flip happens when walking off I believe

[MiniDeathStar]

Smith wagon I can agree with. VOTE: mshsmith0 x pieguyn

Jester's town though. Dunn's also town. I think he pretty much townslipped with the daychat thing.

[Dunnstral]

I think he pretty much townslipped with the daychat thing.

Did you miss where I was just in a setup of this type (same game as parama/hs/maria/sickofit/gamma/vedo)

[Dunnstral]

Also it totally slipped my mind but I have some suspicion on mds as well

ok goodnight all

[MiniDeathStar]

@Dunn:

Did Kagami comment on this? You said she was townreading Shadow x Maria

VOTE: Shadow Pair

[MiniDeathStar]

Did you miss where I was just in a setup of this type (same game as parama/hs/maria/sickofit/gamma/vedo)

I did actually. What was the daychat thing about then?

[Vedith]

Okay, so I think everyone more or less agrees that there is scum some what with me/Shadow/Maria/Gamma.
Here's my idea.

Me and Gamma leave, if both town lynch Maria / Shadow. If Gamma flips scum, then I feel less confident on Maria/Shadow scum as there would be no reason for Gamma to also push that pair.
From there, we can actually work to Dunn's reads imo.

[Dunnstral]

Her reads on shadow was progresding I think. Can't check now but I also know she thought shadow needed death regardless


Daychat thing was just seeing why mhsmith knew but he was apparently in an even older setup I hadn't seen

[Human Sequencer]

mhsmith-pie needs to be closely scrutinized but it definitely doesn't need to be today when we have shadowmariar, jestermds and vedithgamma all very helpful and informative lynch targets which are all likely to hit scum and every single pair can't be classified as t-t by a longshot.
Dunn's incredible lust to point the wagon literally anywhere else is concerning.

I really think (and parma agrees) that this DP is dragging on without flips. Namely shadow.

[MiniDeathStar]

Me and Gamma leave, if both town lynch Maria / Shadow. If Gamma flips scum, then I feel less confident on Maria/Shadow scum as there would be no reason for Gamma to also push that pair.
From there, we can actually work to Dunn's reads imo.

It *sounds* like a good plan, although I think you Vedith would be pretty useful later in the game. Moreso than Shadow. (SORRY SHADOW).

[MiniDeathStar]

Tbh as much as I hate to say it if any pair should leave it probably should be mine, considering how many people think we're useless.