New Year's Eve Masquerade Ball - [Game Over]

[mhsmith0]

will be back tonight and will actually read through the thread. that will be super fun i'm sure.

[Shadow_step]

SS, Maria, Nahdia: HS/Parama? Yes/no?

Are you asking our opinion on whether they are scum or no?

There are many more scummier people who need to go first.

[MariaR]

Vedith question
I think HS's tone reminds me of equal maf the game we just played but her actions overall and posts feel scummy to me
what do you think

[Parama]

Cerberus no offense but your "don't lynch until after intermission" is insanely stupid and I don't have the time to get into all the reasons why from phone

[Cerberus v666]

I look forward to you digging a deep hole that I will then fill with you inside it.

[Vedith]

Oh, parama: I'm not voting because I believe going straight to second dance before any lynches is optimal. I also don't vote much in general, so that's something you'll have to learn to live with.

@Vedith: THIS GAME IS NOT LIKE OTHER GAMES. The vig, in the scenario you described, WOULD be acting anti-town if their vig shot would also kill them. The VALUE of a vig shooting a town slot who would otherwise be a mislynch is that it SAVES TOWN from wasting the mislynch(which they have a limited number of). In the scenario where town loses TWO town slots from the vig shot thats meant to "clarify" things, town has essentially lost a mislynch, and that's what happens here when a town slot leaves the dance, dragging their town partner in tow. It doesn't MATTER that you're scumreading him. What you're doing IS NOT using a vig shot, it's using a one shot that lynches someone and kills you. Those are very different things.

I'm just a Day vigilante lover.
I wouldn't be worried about lynching/killing someone I am lovered with in a normal game if I suspect scum, why here?

I'm home, just posting.

[Gamma Emerald]

Vedith, before you leave, consider the possibility of all 4 of us being Town. We need to lynch elsewhere to see if we're being set up before we make any final calls.

[mhsmith0]

Vedith, before you leave, consider the possibility of all 4 of us being Town. We need to lynch elsewhere to see if we're being set up before we make any final calls.

oh, you're scum
VOTE: gamma

[MiniDeathStar]

Lynch elsewhere *before* your pair?

[MiniDeathStar]

Like... I can't even express how scummy that came out.

[mhsmith0]

Obviously the risk there is that people WON'T be able to come to accords adn we'll end up losing because town can't get their shit together and agree on a lynch.

This is my main issue. With how the dynamic between me/Vedith and MariaR/ShadowStep is, lynching in first dance IS in our best interest so we can sort some slots before we enter the crunch time of second dance.

^this was gamma's old opinion btw, now just a generic "maybe we shoudl lynch elsewhere" (while still voting SS and not pushing elsewhere)

[Gamma Emerald]

Vedith, before you leave, consider the possibility of all 4 of us being Town. We need to lynch elsewhere to see if we're being set up before we make any final calls.

oh, you're scum
VOTE: gamma

I'm trying to get him to reconsider because I don't want two Town pairs dying with little scum effort because he decided to be an idiot and leave before we had all the background.

[Parama]

loooolll gamma is flailing hardcore.

Between that and the "lynch Parama/HS exclusively for info on Maria/Shadow" bs it's just desperate survivalism at this point

[Gamma Emerald]

Obviously the risk there is that people WON'T be able to come to accords adn we'll end up losing because town can't get their shit together and agree on a lynch.

This is my main issue. With how the dynamic between me/Vedith and MariaR/ShadowStep is, lynching in first dance IS in our best interest so we can sort some slots before we enter the crunch time of second dance.

^this was gamma's old opinion btw, now just a generic "maybe we shoudl lynch elsewhere" (while still voting SS and not pushing elsewhere)

I am pushing elsewhere. I'm not voting elsewhere because EVERYONE'S STUCK ON THE SAME THREE WAGONS

[Parama]

why is everyone being stuck on three wagons a bad thing

if everyone was pushing different directions it'd be impossible to make any progress at all

and there's only 8 possible wagons to begin with anyways

[Gamma Emerald]

If Vedith does decide to be an idiot and leave PLEASE think before blindly wagoning Shadow/MariaR.

[mhsmith0]

Obviously the risk there is that people WON'T be able to come to accords adn we'll end up losing because town can't get their shit together and agree on a lynch.

This is my main issue. With how the dynamic between me/Vedith and MariaR/ShadowStep is, lynching in first dance IS in our best interest so we can sort some slots before we enter the crunch time of second dance.

^this was gamma's old opinion btw, now just a generic "maybe we shoudl lynch elsewhere" (while still voting SS and not pushing elsewhere)

I am pushing elsewhere. I'm not voting elsewhere because EVERYONE'S STUCK ON THE SAME THREE WAGONS

Yes, definitely not possible to start a new wagon and push an actual case.

[mhsmith0]

If Vedith does decide to be an idiot and leave PLEASE think before blindly wagoning Shadow/MariaR.

I can't even tell if he's spewing them town or wolf here though

[Gamma Emerald]

why is everyone being stuck on three wagons a bad thing

if everyone was pushing different directions it'd be impossible to make any progress at all

and there's only 8 possible wagons to begin with anyways

BECAUSE I THINK THEY COULD BE ALL TOWN
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT IN A FALSE DICHOTOMY/TRICHOTOMY

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.7

The_Jester - MiniDeathStar [3] - pieguyn, inspectorscout, Kagami
Human Sequencer - Parama [0] -
Ser Arthur Dayne - inspectorscout [0] -
Cerberus v666 - Nahdia [0] -
mhsmith0 - pieguyn [1] - Dunnstral
Gamma Emerald - Vedith [4] - MariaR, Shadow_step, MiniDeathStar, mhsmith0
Dunnstral - Kagami [0] -
Shadow_step - MariaR [5] - Vedith, Parama, Gamma Emerald, Human Sequencer, Ser Arthur Dayne

Not Voting [3]

- The_Jester, Cerberus v666, Nahdia

With 16 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch

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Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2016-12-12 17:00:00)

[Parama]

I can't even

[Parama]

What the hell have you ever

EVER

Played mafia before????

[Parama]

"there are three competing wagons that people think contain scum. let's lynch outside of them for no good reason whatsoever"

[Gamma Emerald]

Why are you trying to discredit my experience? I've played many games.

[Parama]

like you realize

It's a general consensus thing?

You know, the way mafia is played?