Mini Normal 1857 (Game Over - Mafia Wins!)

[Titus]

I want to lynch Drone today.

[gerryoat]

Why do you want drone?

[Impoetic]

well hey that was obvious and cool

transcend i did figure out you were town while i was rereading = ( and i think kyouko's town too from what i've seen, but i'm far from finished catching up rip

rescinding the read on sesq

[Impoetic]

OH JEEZE there are already messages. Daystart flip was the last on the page so i thought it was the last post made LMAO

[TTTT]

I want to lynch Drone today.

This might not be a bad idea.

@ssbm
What are your thoughts on LUV?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Wow I hate being wrong.

So I'm feeling a lot better about D7 for town now. I tunneled foolishly there Day 1.

[TTTT]

well hey that was obvious and cool

What is "that"?

[Impoetic]

Okay wait I don't think I ever absorbed who D7 was. Sorry for the dumb question, but who is that? Or do you mean like, when it hits 7 people or something? :s

predit: sorry oops, that was unclear. Transcend was obvious town and an obvious kill (in reference to the flip) and cool as in we lynched mafia. I only checked transcend's actual role after people brought it up so i didn't see he was a JOAT immediately.

[Impoetic]

actually i'm not entirely sure what the obvious was directed at it might not have been transcend given my next sentence

i assume i said it on autopilot. I didn't really remember anything about RB, and though i thought his reaction was bad, titus resisting it made me pretty indifferent to that lynch, so i would hope i wasn't referring to that.

[TTTT]

So "obvious" refers to Tran's alignment and "cool" refers to lynching scum?
And you didn't even read Transcend's flip until after you posted 1427?

PEDIT:

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Okay wait I don't think I ever absorbed who D7 was. Sorry for the dumb question, but who is that? Or do you mean like, when it hits 7 people or something? :s

predit: sorry oops, that was unclear. Transcend was obvious town and an obvious kill (in reference to the flip) and cool as in we lynched mafia. I only checked transcend's actual role after people brought it up so i didn't see he was a JOAT immediately.

D7 = Drealmerz7

[TTTT]

@Imp
Plz explain why you failed to vote day1.
I mean other than voting rb early on day1 for a total of 47 minutes before unvoting.

[Impoetic]

So "obvious" refers to Tran's alignment and "cool" refers to lynching scum?
And you didn't even read Transcend's flip until after you posted 1427?

PEDIT:

Well, if it makes more sense, I think "cool" was more of a visceral reaction to how the game was going so far. I would assume "obvious" is directed at transcend, i just don't know, because I tend to type without thinking. It's a habit i haven't shaken off since Epicmafia. Why are you picking on this though? Did you think my reaction might be scum/forced when you first saw it?

@Imp
Plz explain why you failed to vote day1.
I mean other than voting rb early on day1 for a total of 47 minutes before unvoting.

I was V/LA and hadn't read up, and like I just said, Titus was resisting it. I haven't played much with Titus but I know they're generally a good player and that gave me pause. You can criticize me as a player for that mindset and i'd definitely accept it, but again, not sure why you singled me out there over others. I'm pretty sure all the other wagons were really scattered and people were effectively not voting in some of those cases?

[Impoetic]

Actually, of course I wouldn't vote? There was one wagon which I wasn't opposed to and was really close to being hammered, and a player I know is good was resisting it while the wagon itself was on a relatively apathetic/null player, with the only scumtell i knew/remembered being his reaction to the wagon that i felt was icky when i skimmed some of his iso.

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: Titus

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: rb

this was not RVS - just saying

LUV or Titus today

[ssbm_Kyouko]

As far as LUV goes part of my thoughts on him involve a PR theory and it's too early to discuss that today imo. Its also an assumption about the setup and would point fingers at potential town PRs so I will not discuss this part of my theory until those potential PRs claim naturally. I still stand by the team associations I've been talking about for a while, but I'm not sure if I ever quoted them and I'm also not sure if it was more of a mutual thing or if it was rb trying to make LUV look like LUV was a scum buddy. If it was the latter it would be a ploy to take a town with him but LUVs actions towards the end of the rb wagon look like a panicked scum. I think he ditched the wagon because he thought that one of the counter wagons was going to gain traction, but it never did. I'm surprised he didn't hammer rb to try to gain some points back though. I'm going to be focused on another game first tonight but I may bring up a case on LUV and where he's associated with rb if it's not already in my ISO after that game.

Gerry's activity is disappointing but in my limited experience this is his town game. I don't tr him though because I don't know his scum game and they may be similar, and his low activity is not pro-town. I also don't place much stock in secondhand meta in general and that's most of my Gerry experience.

I dislike his scumreads because one of them was pushing a counter wagon to scum on the other yesterday, and the other is one of my own top TRs. His fos on that player (TTTT) also looks somewhat retaliatory.

[Sesq]

Okay, so Trans was killed. Probably due to JK claim, which was kind of true.

Impo: Opening was scummy, defense felt contrived to the point of town (by that I mean so contrived that scum would avoid it). Came back recently, seems like early-D1 LUV, which I like.
Titus: Marches in and declares a desire for a lynch on Drone, despite voting LUV yesterday. In-character so far.
Iron: Sometimes posts well, other times seems to be putting in no effort. This flipping back and forth feels really scummy.
Drone: IDK? Feels null-scum by pure vibe. Was pushing gerry yesterday, I suspect the same now.
shannon: it feels as if she's invisible or something. Seems normal town.
LUV: Early play was great, later meh. IDK, null.
gerryoat: shit town play, there's no way to know strongarm here unless you're maf
ssbm: normal town, like shannon
TTTT: pushing hard on gerry, which i like, as that needs some questioning. towny.
dreal: Felt scummy early on, nullish now.

GERRY: why are you guessing strongarm
TITUS: why drone

[Lil Uzi Vert]

My reads are all messed up right now but I'm pretty confident in Kyouko, Sesq, and Shannon for town.

[drealmerz7]

I'm nullish now? gee, thanks!

[drealmerz7]

My reads are all messed up right now but I'm pretty confident in Kyouko, Sesq, and Shannon for town.

I'm not on this list obviously he's scum

[drealmerz7]

Wow I hate being wrong.

So I'm feeling a lot better about D7 for town now. I tunneled foolishly there Day 1.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Confident =/= Feeling better

[Sesq]

My reads are all messed up right now but I'm pretty confident in Kyouko, Sesq, and Shannon for town.

Explain, please.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

My reads are all messed up right now but I'm pretty confident in Kyouko, Sesq, and Shannon for town.

Explain, please.

I like a lot of the effort that Kyouko is putting in to solving the game. It could be faked but I don't get that from him. He seems to be considering every and any angle, investigating and reevaluating as much as he can, and following up with actual cases that force everyone to engage with him and the game itself.

You still read quite new to me and I don't see any scum intent in your posts.

I've been informed that Shannon didn't go anywhere last night and while that doesn't confirm anything, it makes me a feel whole lot better about my meta read on her.