Mini Normal 1857 (Game Over - Mafia Wins!)

[JaeReed]

VC 2.02

Titus (1)

: drealmerz7

NOT VOTING (10)

: Impoetic, Titus, ironstove, Drone, shannon, Sesq, Lil Uzi Vert, gerryoat, ssbm_Kyouko, TTTT

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

Movie suggestions, people! I need some.

[drealmerz7]

depends what you like

Until the End of the World

[drealmerz7]

if someone else is an investigation role, I say we lynch LUV cause I don't see 2 inv roles for town this game.

he should probably be lynched anyway

him or titus today

chime in everyone

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I'm not sure if I buy Titus being scum. Could you remind me what it was that he did? I liked his slot.

@mod, The Usual Suspects, or Memento

[shannon]

My reads are all messed up right now but I'm pretty confident in Kyouko, Sesq, and Shannon for town.

Explain, please.

I like a lot of the effort that Kyouko is putting in to solving the game. It could be faked but I don't get that from him. He seems to be considering every and any angle, investigating and reevaluating as much as he can, and following up with actual cases that force everyone to engage with him and the game itself.

You still read quite new to me and I don't see any scum intent in your posts.

I've been informed that Shannon didn't go anywhere last night and while that doesn't confirm anything, it makes me a feel whole lot better about my meta read on her.

@LUV: What did you mean by "my reads are all messed up right now"? Also, are you: claiming tracker; claiming that there exists an amnesiac (I think that's the modifier that sends your results to another player at random) tracker; choosing not to reveal that much yet?

@Shannon: Feel free to not comment on this for now if you so choose. If you went somewhere last night and are comfortable revealing that then let us know so we can lynch a liar, but if it's not worth revealing yet hold off.

Potential setup:
1x Town JOAT
1x Town Tracker
8x VT

1x Mafia JOAT (Strongman, Ninja, Roleblocker?)
1x Mafia Rolecop
1x Mafia Goon

that setup spec is not good

I'm figure LUV is scum (even scum-tracker, but not necessarily), claims result to clear scum-buddy figuring it is safe (doesn't actually claim a role) and with JOAT for town it is safe - if he is scumtracker even more confidence for him to claim a result on someone, and then it opens the possibility of him claiming it on a townie that he's got it on for the towncred

if someone else is an investigation role, I say we lynch LUV cause I don't see 2 inv roles for town this game.

I didn't go anywhere last night. I can't offer any counter to LUV's claim or any useful info about it, I don't think.

As D7 says, that proves nothing about either of us, unfortunately, except that I didn't kill Transcend, nor try to save/investigate anyone, unless I'm a ninja which would be cool but I'm not.

@LUV why did you give a result on me, given that it proves nothing?

[TTTT]

@LUV why did you give a result on me, given that it proves nothing?

bc he's probably a mafia investigative who couldn't help himself

[Lil Uzi Vert]

My reads are all messed up right now but I'm pretty confident in Kyouko, Sesq, and Shannon for town.

Explain, please.

I like a lot of the effort that Kyouko is putting in to solving the game. It could be faked but I don't get that from him. He seems to be considering every and any angle, investigating and reevaluating as much as he can, and following up with actual cases that force everyone to engage with him and the game itself.

You still read quite new to me and I don't see any scum intent in your posts.

I've been informed that Shannon didn't go anywhere last night and while that doesn't confirm anything, it makes me a feel whole lot better about my meta read on her.

@LUV: What did you mean by "my reads are all messed up right now"? Also, are you: claiming tracker; claiming that there exists an amnesiac (I think that's the modifier that sends your results to another player at random) tracker; choosing not to reveal that much yet?

@Shannon: Feel free to not comment on this for now if you so choose. If you went somewhere last night and are comfortable revealing that then let us know so we can lynch a liar, but if it's not worth revealing yet hold off.

I didn't think rb would flip town. I have to reevaluate sometime tonight.

I'm a one 1-shot town tracker.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

My reads are all messed up right now but I'm pretty confident in Kyouko, Sesq, and Shannon for town.

Explain, please.

I like a lot of the effort that Kyouko is putting in to solving the game. It could be faked but I don't get that from him. He seems to be considering every and any angle, investigating and reevaluating as much as he can, and following up with actual cases that force everyone to engage with him and the game itself.

You still read quite new to me and I don't see any scum intent in your posts.

I've been informed that Shannon didn't go anywhere last night and while that doesn't confirm anything, it makes me a feel whole lot better about my meta read on her.

@LUV: What did you mean by "my reads are all messed up right now"? Also, are you: claiming tracker; claiming that there exists an amnesiac (I think that's the modifier that sends your results to another player at random) tracker; choosing not to reveal that much yet?

@Shannon: Feel free to not comment on this for now if you so choose. If you went somewhere last night and are comfortable revealing that then let us know so we can lynch a liar, but if it's not worth revealing yet hold off.

I didn't think rb would flip town. I have to reevaluate sometime tonight.

I'm a 1-shot town tracker.

EBWOP

[Lil Uzi Vert]

My reads are all messed up right now but I'm pretty confident in Kyouko, Sesq, and Shannon for town.

Explain, please.

I like a lot of the effort that Kyouko is putting in to solving the game. It could be faked but I don't get that from him. He seems to be considering every and any angle, investigating and reevaluating as much as he can, and following up with actual cases that force everyone to engage with him and the game itself.

You still read quite new to me and I don't see any scum intent in your posts.

I've been informed that Shannon didn't go anywhere last night and while that doesn't confirm anything, it makes me a feel whole lot better about my meta read on her.

@LUV: What did you mean by "my reads are all messed up right now"? Also, are you: claiming tracker; claiming that there exists an amnesiac (I think that's the modifier that sends your results to another player at random) tracker; choosing not to reveal that much yet?

@Shannon: Feel free to not comment on this for now if you so choose. If you went somewhere last night and are comfortable revealing that then let us know so we can lynch a liar, but if it's not worth revealing yet hold off.

Potential setup:
1x Town JOAT
1x Town Tracker
8x VT

1x Mafia JOAT (Strongman, Ninja, Roleblocker?)
1x Mafia Rolecop
1x Mafia Goon

that setup spec is not good

I'm figure LUV is scum (even scum-tracker, but not necessarily), claims result to clear scum-buddy figuring it is safe (doesn't actually claim a role) and with JOAT for town it is safe - if he is scumtracker even more confidence for him to claim a result on someone, and then it opens the possibility of him claiming it on a townie that he's got it on for the towncred

if someone else is an investigation role, I say we lynch LUV cause I don't see 2 inv roles for town this game.

I didn't go anywhere last night. I can't offer any counter to LUV's claim or any useful info about it, I don't think.

As D7 says, that proves nothing about either of us, unfortunately, except that I didn't kill Transcend, nor try to save/investigate anyone, unless I'm a ninja which would be cool but I'm not.

@LUV why did you give a result on me, given that it proves nothing?

I'm a 1-shot town tracker and since scum are going to try frame me for not being on the rb wagon I'd figure I should get out this information now before I don't have a chance to.

[gerryoat]

Calling BS on having a 1 shot Tracker when we already have a Joat. Also you didn't need to even claim, you only claimed so a lynch wouldnt form on you after he flipped scum.

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

[Lil Uzi Vert]

It's not bull. This setup is very much possible and looking at past mini-normals will tell you that.

Why would I want a lynch to form on me when I know I'm town? I gave reads and I was told to explain them.

[TTTT]

@Titus
I'd like you take on this from a setup perspective

[TTTT]

I think gerry and I might become BFFs.

[TTTT]

@Titus
I'd like

your

take on this from a setup perspective

fix-a-derp

[Titus]

@Titus
I'd like

your

take on this from a setup perspective

fix-a-derp

Punt. Lacking information to do so.

Right now, not liking lil Uzi vert's claim thoufthougthoufthough.

[Titus]

Ok autocorrect must die in this phone.

[Sesq]

LUV's stuff also looks meh. We also really don't have a solid idea what's going on for setups other than
-Town JOAT
town
town
town
town
town
town
town
town
town
mafia goon
mafia
mafia,

so I'm not sure how much I'm on it but it is suspich.

@MOD The Truman Show

[Titus]

@JaeReed, Clue is the best movie ever.

Communism is just a red herring.

[Titus]

@Lil Uzi, If you're a one shot, you should tell us whether you tracked someone or not.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I followed Shannon and received that she didn't go anywhere last night.

[TTTT]

@Titus
play a game with me?
imagine you are scum with LUV
for [reasons] you agree in the PT that he should fakeclaim to avoid a lynch today.
What role do you advise LUV should fakeclaim given what is known about the game at this point?

I'm assuming it wouldn't be 1-shot tracker, given there is a flipped JOAT, right?

[Titus]

@Titus
play a game with me?
imagine you are scum with LUV
for [reasons] you agree in the PT that he should fakeclaim to avoid a lynch today.
What role do you advise LUV should fakeclaim given what is known about the game at this point?

I'm assuming it wouldn't be 1-shot tracker, given there is a flipped JOAT, right?

That's why I am not voting Lil yet. It's a play that makes no sense as either alignment.

[TTTT]

@Titus, TTTT, and the rest of the final 6 voting rb with me - What do you guys think about ironstove and drone voting for gerry yesterday with TTTT? We know rb is scum so since the Gerry wagon was the next-largest there was probably a scum trying to counterwagon him there.

I have mixed feelings on this.
on the one hand, maybe they thought the gerry-wagon had a chance
on the other, I kinda find it worse that LUV jumped off the rb wagon and stayed off the counter-wagon, like he knew rb would flip scum and that then the counter-wagon would look bad.
there's no doubt I was baiting scum to push a counter-wagon in the event rb was scum.
at the time I thought the lack of momentum on gerry indicated he was scum, too
but it was pretty obvious what I was doing (at least to scum who knows my alignment) so it seems just as likely that they just stayed off both wagons or bused rb.
all ^this to say... I dunno.

[drealmerz7]

titus not so sure about LUV eh? surprise surprise

UNVOTE: Titus
VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

[gerryoat]

No one wants to lynch D7/Impoetic so I'm forced to compromise.

why did you not track one of your 2 scumreads?You scumread them so much that you felt that you'd have to 'compromise' to vote someone else. @Lil Uzi Vert