New Year's Eve Masquerade Ball - [Game Over]

The_Jester · Post Post #2450 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:46 am

How about we just settle this by team battle in jelly
Or not, I'd have to go against Mini and Maria
But then we could call it scum distancing by romancing

Kagami · Post Post #2451 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:10 am

In post 2424, MariaR wrote:Why does a no lynch help us when scum is prob just gonna kill the IC pair.

This possibility does not bother me; but I'm pretty sure a no lynch won't go through anyway.

Kagami · Post Post #2452 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:20 am

May I have a VC, dear host?

Kagami · Post Post #2453 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:41 am

In post 2423, MariaR wrote:
In post 2419, Kagami wrote:Can you give me a tl;dr on why you think shadow is town, maria?
Main reasons:
I've played with both town and scum shadow and town shadow is more confident cocky irritated etc like he is now
Scum shadow was more sly/questioning the best way to say it was he was really cold it's hard to explain
he also seems extremely genuine in our PT when he's been saying sorry that he was getting us lynched from his mini outbursts

Why does he think you are town?

MariaR · Post Post #2454 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:58 am

In post 2453, Kagami wrote:
In post 2423, MariaR wrote:
In post 2419, Kagami wrote:Can you give me a tl;dr on why you think shadow is town, maria?
Main reasons:
I've played with both town and scum shadow and town shadow is more confident cocky irritated etc like he is now
Scum shadow was more sly/questioning the best way to say it was he was really cold it's hard to explain
he also seems extremely genuine in our PT when he's been saying sorry that he was getting us lynched from his mini outbursts
Why does he think you are town?

I don't think he's ever given a specific reason

FakeGod · Post Post #2455 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:23 am

VoteCount 1.10

The_Jester - MiniDeathStar [3] - Dunnstral, pieguyn, Nahdia
Human Sequencer - Parama [1] - MariaR
Ser Arthur Dayne - inspectorscout [0] -
Cerberus v666 - Nahdia [0] -
mhsmith0 - pieguyn [0] -
Dunnstral - Kagami [2] - MiniDeathStar, Shadow_step
Shadow_step - MariaR [3] - Parama, Human Sequencer, Ser Arthur Dayne
No Lynch [2] - Kagami, mhsmith0

Not Voting [3]

- The_Jester, inspectorscout, Cerberus v666

With 14 alive it takes 8 votes to lynch

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Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2016-12-15 17:00:00)

inspectorscout · Post Post #2456 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:25 am

VOTE: no lynch

Ser Arthur Dayne · Post Post #2457 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:27 am

Is Jester or Cerb ever gonna put a vote down.

Stay tuned to find out.

Full reveal at page 500.

MiniDeathStar · Post Post #2458 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:45 am

Exactly what do you think is going to happen after we no-lynch?

Parama · Post Post #2459 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:48 am

inspectorscout · Post Post #2460 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:55 am

Scum kills a pair and we go on?
What do we benefit more by lynching now rather than after a nightkill? Theoretically the odds of hitting scum are higher if we nolynch, i think

The_Jester · Post Post #2461 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:55 am

Voting for NL = scumclaim

inspectorscout · Post Post #2462 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:56 am

In post 2461, The_Jester wrote:Voting for NL = scumclaim

Because?

The_Jester · Post Post #2463 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:58 am

Because it doesn't help anything and forces town to leave if they wanna have any influence over the game. If we nl, people are gonna argue on the same matters tomorrow and nothing will change, apart from giving scum a free kill.

inspectorscout · Post Post #2464 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:01 am

In post 2463, The_Jester wrote:Because it doesn't help anything and forces town to leave if they wanna have any influence over the game. If we nl, people are gonna argue on the same matters tomorrow and nothing will change, apart from giving scum a free kill.

Except the kill will happen anyway, either now or after a lynch

The_Jester · Post Post #2465 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:08 am

Sure it will. But leaving all power to scum is just bad play

mhsmith0 · Post Post #2466 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:14 am

In post 2463, The_Jester wrote:Because it doesn't help anything
and forces town to leave if they wanna have any influence over the game
. If we nl, people are gonna argue on the same matters tomorrow and nothing will change, apart from giving scum a free kill.

Please explain the bolded, because I don't understand what you're saying there. You just mean that people are forced to leave if they want to influence the game PRIOR TO the no lynch? Or something weirder and less clear?

mhsmith0 · Post Post #2467 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:14 am

In post 2465, The_Jester wrote:Sure it will. But leaving all power to scum is just bad play

I also don't understand this, since scum get one free kill and it's a question of whether it happens now or later.

The_Jester · Post Post #2468 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:16 am

I'm pretty sure you've understood me perfectly and you're playing dumb right now

MiniDeathStar · Post Post #2469 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:19 am

All no-lynch is going to do is make mafia kill the IC pair sooner rather than later. Last time I checked nobody was scumreading them, so we get literally no info from their flip, and we don't get any of their reads either.

mhsmith0 · Post Post #2470 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:19 am

Given that you haven't been clear about what you're arguing, I fail to understand why you should expect me to undertand you perfectly.

Given that "let's have scum shoot now" or "let's have scum shoot after another lynch" seems to be a relatively unimportant question in my book, I'm also struggling to understand why you are representing that this is something you consider to be important.

mhsmith0 · Post Post #2471 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:22 am

In post 2469, MiniDeathStar wrote:All no-lynch is going to do is make mafia kill the IC pair sooner rather than later. Last time I checked nobody was scumreading them, so we get literally no info from their flip, and we don't get any of their reads either.

This is an actual argument against no lynching.

That said, how certain are you about cerb being town? "Nobody was scumreading them" may be true, but there's a difference between "they're not a popular suspect" and "I agree with them not being a popular suspect", and skimming your iso it looks like you state a TR there more than you really discuss why you have a TR there.

Parama · Post Post #2472 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:23 am

I want to have 2 flips and at least 1 lynch wagon to go over in my PT during intermission tbh and NL runs counterproductive to that

We really don't gain anything from NLing either

mhsmith0 · Post Post #2473 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:26 am

In post 2472, Parama wrote:I want to have 2 flips and at least 1 lynch wagon to go over in my PT during intermission tbh and NL runs counterproductive to that

We really don't gain anything from NLing either

I don't consider it a particularly meaningful gain or loss, tbh.

I do find jester's "this forces town to leave" bit bizarre, since people can still argue against NL'ing (which very obviously influences the game), especially since we're pretty far from the NL hammer point right now.

MiniDeathStar · Post Post #2474 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:27 am

In post 2455, FakeGod wrote:No Lynch [2] - Kagami, mhsmith0

Does it surprise anyone that these people in particular are behind the no-lynch fad? It doesn't surprise me.

P. Edit: I wrote Cerberus off as town really early and I haven't had any reason to distrust him since. I'm about 90% certain he's town. Why does it matter though? I'm positive the scum will boot them because they're never getting lynched, and the longer they stay the more info we can get out of them.

I shouldn't have to explain why no-lynch is a bad idea, it's just so obviously anti-town that the only explanation why *you* Smith would be pushing it, is that you're scum.