New Year's Eve Masquerade Ball - [Game Over]

[Parama]

VOTE: HS/para
there is no way your reads are THAT bad

^your most recent vote

[MariaR]

wut?
VOTE: Ser/scout
I thought I made my ser vote after my HS vote
whoops.

[MiniDeathStar]

What's wrong with AtE'ing? I always AtE. I AtE irl all the time, it usually gets me what I want. :<

Seriously though, I'm just frustrated of having to repeat myself. I genuinely want to leave, the only thing stopping me is knowing how everyone (and esp. Jester) would skin me alive post-game for it.

[Parama]

i think i'll entertain that too tbh
VOTE: Arthur Inspector

[Parama]

What's wrong with AtE'ing? I always AtE. I AtE irl all the time, it usually gets me what I want. :<

Seriously though, I'm just frustrated of having to repeat myself. I genuinely want to leave, the only thing stopping me is knowing how everyone (and esp. Jester) would skin me alive post-game for it.

do you want to leave because you think jester is scum or do you want to leave because of people scumreading you

i get the impression the answer is the latter and if that's the case,

stop

(you probably shouldn't leave in the former case either tbh, just drive a lynch on yourself if need be)

[MariaR]

I think it's the ladder cause I had the same feelings for half of day 1

[Parama]

that's not the ladder, this is the ladder



i'm going to sleep now i'm making bad posts again

[MariaR]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA GOD DAM IT

[MiniDeathStar]

@Parama:

Not just scumreading me, but literally ignoring everything I say unless it's addressed to them OR they want to use it as evidence to back their scumreads. Otherwise it's like I barely even exist. I'm wondering what, short of me becoming conftown, will get people to bloody think for a moment that Kagami/mhsmith might actually probably maybe be mafia?

Oh what am I saying, even if I were conftown they'd still dismiss me because then Jester is the scum who's pocketed me and feeding me bad reads. Of course.

*sighs*

I think I should just shut up. That's definitely my preferred alternative to cynicism and yelling obscenities.

[MiniDeathStar]

Ugh, sorry, I didn't expect to have another meltdown in front of everyone. Forget I said anything.

[Parama]

honestly

a part of it might be that there are so many posts in this game nobody wants to read them all

i've tried to keep up to date with everything but there are still some posts i've just skimmed (longer ones especially)

[pieguyn]

Sir
jest
human
====
inspectorscout
Kagami
Pie
for me atm

why have I entered your scum list, and why do you scum read Kagami? if I've missed it, link please.

[pieguyn]

I have a town read on Kagami, for the very basic reason that I am almost positive that scum-Kagami in this player list plays a much more straight-shot scum game instead of what she's been doing here (which has mostly just been pushing her own agenda). I recall her being a very pragmatic scum player, and I am fairly sure that no one besides me in this player list is familiar with her play style and that she is like me in that she can play a fairly town-looking textbook scum game to people who aren't familiar with her meta, so not really much of a reason to not do it - the alternative is that she did this and then once I'm dead she's kinda stuck in the ass with no one left defending her play and a lot of people left scum reading her without much recourse.

I've also been paying attention to her reads somewhat and I haven't seen any off notes from her in terms of the pushes she's been making. even the more esoteric reads like MDS/Jester potentially being a scum pair came off as reasonable to me.

if their pair gets lynched and it's town/town, I'd be pretty likely to want to start lynching through the wagon.

[MiniDeathStar]

I've also been paying attention to her reads somewhat and I haven't seen any off notes from her in terms of the pushes she's been making. even the more esoteric reads like MDS/Jester potentially being a scum pair came off as reasonable to me.

[pieguyn]

I don't have the slightest clue what you're attempting to say.

[MiniDeathStar]

I mean, you're literally trusting the mafia and her reads. Isn't that the literal definition of pocketing?

[The_Jester]

Boo for making Mini explain her joke

[MiniDeathStar]

I'd be really really cautious of trusting someone solely based on personal meta. People change and adapt from game to game, especially large theme games with unusual mechanics are supposed to be confusing and make people improvise. I'm astonished how everybody is so easy to trust their friends when I myself thought for a while that mine was scum.

[The_Jester]

Yeah but now I got you pocketed and you only sheep my reads, remember

[MiniDeathStar]

No, you sheep mine.

[MariaR]

I've also been paying attention to her reads somewhat and I haven't seen any off notes from her in terms of the pushes she's been making. even the more esoteric reads like MDS/Jester potentially being a scum pair came off as reasonable to me.

Never lynchinmg mini for this perfect post

[pieguyn]

o.

it isn't that I'm "trusting" her reads (or even that I'm taking her read as something that makes me more inclined to lynch your pair, really - I'm pretty sure I've made it clear that I'm lynching your pair mostly for Jester and that it's rather pointless to speculate about you two being a scum pair), it's that it's a conclusion I arrived at in my head before she posted it to the game thread, and so I'm not inclined to read her as scum for it (I have read your posts, I just don't think you are looking at it in the right way)

[pieguyn]

I'd be really really cautious of trusting someone solely based on personal meta. People change and adapt from game to game, especially large theme games with unusual mechanics are supposed to be confusing and make people improvise. I'm astonished how everybody is so easy to trust their friends when I myself thought for a while that mine was scum.

I'm aware that people play differently from game to game, but I'm not sure that that has anything to do with it.

my point is very straightforward: had I been scum here and not wanted to try any "pair with a partner and roll the town" shenanigans, I likely would have played a very textbook scum game, in that I would have been active, tried to make good-sounding points, tried to keep on top of the game and look like I was scum hunting, not done anything ridiculous that would have attracted attention onto myself, since I'm more than capable of it and in this player list I don't need to do anything out of the ordinary to fool people who are familiar with my play (since only Kagami and Nahdia have that extent of experience with me). I feel mostly sure that Kagami is capable of doing, and would have done, the same.

[Human Sequencer]

arthur is still locktown

remind me what your read on inspectorscout was again?

kinda towny*
*subject to change

nothing has really pinged my interest yet except for his questioning of nahdia, and the more of him i see the more i realize that falls in line w/ his personality
why do you ask?

@parama
i did not say both mariar and shadow would flip scum, i said i wouldn't be surprised if that was the case, even if it's unlikely.
i posted this in my pt, putting it here to clarify

[pieguyn]

nothing has really pinged my interest yet except for his questioning of nahdia, and the more of him i see the more i realize that falls in line w/ his personality
why do you ask?

nothing in particular, just at the moment I pretty strongly feel SAD/inspectorscout is the pair I'd like at endgame, and given you seem to be in agreement SAD is town I wanted to see if you agreed or if/why you disagreed with the scout read too.