New Year's Eve Masquerade Ball - [Game Over]

MiniDeathStar · Post Post #2625 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:52 am

Is the scum afraid of joining my wagon or what? Why am I still talking here?

Cerberus v666 · Post Post #2626 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:59 am

In post 2624, Cerberus v666 wrote:@MDS: You should expect me to be able to read you. Our one game together you were an IC at the time you replaced in, and I've never seen you as scum.

This should read should NOT, not should. :p

MiniDeathStar · Post Post #2627 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:13 am

Um, Cerb, I'm not exactly a newb but I don't have much recent experience. I should read as either obvtown or obvscum.

Kagami · Post Post #2628 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:14 am

It's your partner that's concerning, MDS.

Kagami · Post Post #2629 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:16 am

Well, mostly.

MiniDeathStar · Post Post #2630 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:16 am

Well I can't really defend him since most of his game has been in our PT. I just think he's town.

Jester, come here and persuade them you're not scum pls.

Kagami · Post Post #2631 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:17 am

Well, what in the PT is particularly convincing?

Does he explain why he didn't vote gamma? How does he re-evaluate post-flip?

Kagami · Post Post #2632 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:20 am

Why does he townread parama?

Kagami · Post Post #2633 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:20 am

And what are his thoughts re:smith?

Parama · Post Post #2634 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:30 am

Kagami you are going about asking a lot of people a lot of different things but I see very little from you in terms of actually taking stances

From now on I request that you answer every question you ask yourself

MiniDeathStar · Post Post #2635 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:32 am

I'll get back to you on that if he doesn't, I need to make dinner.

Kagami · Post Post #2636 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:33 am

Which part of my stance would you like clarified? My thoughts seem pretty clearly presented.

The_Jester · Post Post #2637 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:43 am

I didn't vote Gamma cause I wasn't 100% sure about him being scum. My scumread on him was mostly meta-based and that's always shaky plus his reaction to Vedith threatening to leave seemed genuinely towny. And I was pretty sure Vedith was town so I tried to look for a scum-scum pair (to no avail).

Kagami · Post Post #2638 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:47 am

What about parama, why did you have a townread there?

The_Jester · Post Post #2639 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:50 am

I'd have to re-read so be patient

Kagami · Post Post #2640 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:51 am

I'm more curious about your read historically.

Kagami · Post Post #2641 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:54 am

You seem reasonably loose with your vote in completed games, why do you need 100% certainty here?

Kagami · Post Post #2642 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:02 am

Your votes in clash of fates are extremely uncomfortable.

The_Jester · Post Post #2643 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:17 am

I don't have a vote meta, sometimes I vote often and loosely, sometimes I abstain from being on lynch wagons for the whole game if I feel I'd put my hand to mislynches (see: Surrealism)

Kagami · Post Post #2644 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:25 am

that was the first game I looked at, you weren't inactive re:voting. Whether or not your vote is part of a lynch wagon isn't really something you can control in any case.

The_Jester · Post Post #2645 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:27 am

I don't see the point you're making. Wanna lynch me on account I haven't voted this game?

Parama · Post Post #2646 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:28 am

lolmeta

mhsmith0 · Post Post #2647 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:29 am

In post 2643, The_Jester wrote:I don't have a vote meta, sometimes I vote often and loosely, sometimes I abstain from being on lynch wagons for the whole game if I feel I'd put my hand to mislynches (see: Surrealism)

Do you do that as VT too? You were seer in that one, so I'm not sure how relevant it is as a comparison basis.

The_Jester · Post Post #2648 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:32 am

When I'm not sure the target will flip scum, yeah.

Kagami · Post Post #2649 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:34 am

I agree that you're playing this game more tightly than either your scumgames or your towngames, but your scum-votes seem to be very awkwardly justified, and you're clearly not comfortable placing them. I don't see anything comparable in your towngame, and I don't see why you'd change your voting pattern here as town.

Requiring 100% certainty is silly, and you know that. I don't see how that's a defense for not voting gamma at any point in the Day. Did you provide some indication I've missed in thread that you want to vote exclusive for a possible scum-scum pairing? Is there something in your PT about this that MDS can verify?

The parama issue stems from your shadow townread, which you've held since the beginning of the game and I'm not entirely sure why. Given the belief that shadow is town, how did you form a townread on Parama? His early iso is largely his demanding shadow's death for reasons you presumably consider invalid, and a short agreement with my "jester is scum" comment. Parama suddenly arising from dormancy upon my mention of this isn't giving me warm fuzzies either, but that's a different story.

Is there information in your PT available to MDS that can address any of this?