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[shannon]

oh hey thanks for pointing that back out to me

Because he took no real major stance on Rb and coasted through the time.

and your stance was so real! - "he's town, because..." still waiting to hear why you thought he was town

vote titus ppl!

Like I said, there was no counter. I want to solve why now.

Alright, here's my attempt at solving the no counter wagon thing.

TL;DR: There was an attempt at a wagon o Gerry but it didn't gain traction.

First, because the people on it were open to moving to RB, and did so. So it never got further than three votes because people kept leaving instead of pushing it.

Second, those of us not on Gerry didn't want to join the wagon. RB I suppose was worried about looking worse for being opportunistic. I was stubbornly on Transcend. Titus's vote I have no idea about. LUV is kinda suspicious in note voting, and so is Impoetic who

never bloody votes

.

So that's it. If there's scum on the Gerry wagon, they're caught between trying to push that wagon and being seen to be on the RB one.

VC 1.31

rb (5)

: Transcend, drealmerz7, ssbm_Kyouko, Sesq, gerryoat

-- L-2!

gerryoat (3)

: TTTT, ironstove, Drone

TTTT (1)

: Titus

Transcend (1)

: shannon

Sesq (1)

: rb

NOT VOTING (2)

: Impoetic, Lil Uzi Vert

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Impoetic is V/LA until the 4th.

VC 1.32

rb (6)

: Transcend, drealmerz7, ssbm_Kyouko, Sesq, gerryoat, ironstove

-- L-1!

gerryoat (2)

: TTTT, Drone

TTTT (1)

: Titus

Transcend (1)

: shannon

Sesq (1)

: rb

NOT VOTING (2)

: Impoetic, Lil Uzi Vert

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Someone please bring me coffee. I'll love you forever.

VC 1.34 (FINAL)

rb (7)

: Transcend, drealmerz7, ssbm_Kyouko, Sesq, gerryoat, ironstove, TTTT

-- LYNCH!

gerryoat (1)

: Drone

Lil Uzi Vert (1)

: Titus

Transcend (1)

: shannon

Sesq (1)

: rb

NOT VOTING (2)

: Impoetic, Lil Uzi Vert

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Flip incoming.

[Titus]

@Shannon, will read that tomorrow.

@Drealmerz, I don't follow anything you're saying.

[Sesq]

@Shannon, will read that tomorrow.

@Drealmerz, I don't follow anything you're saying.

I don't really follow either. Point is, read things in thread before making statement on said things in thread.

Also @Shannon, Impo was mostly gone during that time in D1, so it makes sense they didn't vote.

[JaeReed]

VC 2.06

Lil Uzi Vert (2)

: gerryoat, TTTT

Titus (2)

: ssbm_Kyouko, drealmerz7

ironstove (1)

: Sesq

Impoetic (1)

: shannon

NOT VOTING (5)

: Impoetic, Titus, ironstove, Drone, Lil Uzi Vert

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

Zzzzz I posted 2 VCs on the same page again yesterday. Apologies.

TTTT is V/LA until the 12th.

[Titus]

@Shannon, will read that tomorrow.

@Drealmerz, I don't follow anything you're saying.

I don't really follow either. Point is, read things in thread before making statement on said things in thread.

Also @Shannon, Impo was mostly gone during that time in D1, so it makes sense they didn't vote.

I read all that was relevant. Drone avoided EoD and now you tell me he wanted Rb alive.

[drealmerz7]

@Drealmerz, I don't follow anything you're saying.

you're scum and I don't buy that ^

:þ

haha but umm
so, the only reason you thought rb was scum (because you didn't read most of the day before you replaced in, how scummy of you) was because there wasn't a counterwagon?

take me through that logic, please, because that is not a reason to me (I explained the reason why it is not a reason to me, but, that is not the point here, the point is HOW THE FARK YOU READ RB AS TOWN)

BS reason is still BS reason but I'm willing to think I might be missing something and am open to listening to what you have to say

I mean, I get you. rb had no counterwagon and you think scum would try to form a counterwagon to save a scum-buddy, and your argument is that because there WASN'T one (not that somene didn't try to get one going, YOU DID TRY TO GET ONE GOING) it was just a scum-heavy wagon waiting for a final-townie hammer. Or something similar?

[drealmerz7]

Zzzzz I posted 2 VCs on the same page again yesterday. Apologies.

it's good stuff keep it up mod, YA!

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Another possibility is that town TTTT happened to start the competing wagon on a second scum in gerry so the last scum had to try to start their own wagon. That would make Impoetic town though unless Kohai FoSed 2 scumbuddies in that really old post I quoted recently

[drealmerz7]

Another possibility is that town TTTT happened to start the competing wagon on a second scum in gerry so the last scum had to try to start their own wagon. That would make Impoetic town though unless Kohai FoSed 2 scumbuddies in that really old post I quoted recently

yep I see this possible but then not sure how titus+LUV fit into that quite

if gerry is scum with rb, that points to titus, right?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Not necessarily, still leaves shannon and LUV I think, unless drone and Gerry realize rb is a lost cause and drone softly buses but I think that is unlikely

[drealmerz7]

yeah
and aside from all of that to me titus is just not making sense all over and being really shady

I want to go there first now

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Actually with the way Gerry is talking today it clears LUV and town LUV supposedly saw shannon go nowhere last night. I feel like if it were Gerry rb and shannon then shannon would do the kill since Gerry was the 2nd most suspicious. If Gerry were to flip scum Titus would probably be the 3rd. Opposite probably holds true as well

[ssbm_Kyouko]

^thats hypothetical in the scenario that Titus flips scum btw

[gerryoat]

Actually with the way Gerry is talking today it clears LUV and town LUV supposedly saw shannon go nowhere last night. I feel like if it were Gerry rb and shannon then shannon would do the kill since Gerry was the 2nd most suspicious. If Gerry were to flip scum Titus would probably be the 3rd. Opposite probably holds true as well

LOL are you calling me mafia with rb? You can't be this bad

[ssbm_Kyouko]

^thats hypothetical in the scenario that Titus flips scum btw

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Kyouko:

Been back and forth lately until I reread and realized that D7 stopped scum reading Titus for not voting for rb and started scum reading her for the reasoning on town reading rb. I really like this observation from him so I'm back to feeling better about his alignment. Titus blatantly lying about Drone and justifying it by saying it's ancient history as if it's Day 4 and not Day 2 makes me think think the likelihood of the chances of D7 being her partner is very slim. I also don't like the recent little back and forth she had with Sesq. As fun as cat fights can be, I didn't get a town vibe from the questions she asked Sesq. Felt like scum trying to shift the attention away from the bigger picture. So in short, no, I'm not scum reading Impoetic anymore. Could you explain your theory on her being scum again?

@Shannon:

Your push on Transcend got fairly drowned out don't you think? Outside of Kyouko's notes, no one was really scum reading you outside of Transcend. I don't remember it ever being a big thing. You also have to remember, my reasoning for TR you was based on meta and that's not always a strong enough reason for a TR a majority of the time. As for why I joined the D7 wagon (interesting to know you started it as most people probably thought I did by how strongly I wanted to lynch him. another example of how under the radar you've been!) is because of my case I gave on him in 180.

I don't get your Impoetic vote, it seems like you're scum reading Iron more there.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VOTE: Titus

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Yeah so Impoetic's original reactions to her wagon looked bad and I was SRing her back then cuz that's what it looked like. but then iamafluffyrabbit (Titus Slot) had a chat with Impoetic and pressured her and she answered really fast and then he declared she was probably town because she'd have to be really good scum to fake interactions that fast. The fact that iamafluffyrabbit stepped in to question Impoetic and form his own read on her looked really town by both of them, but it could have all been rehearsed and I remember making a mental note about it that if one of them ever started acting scummy it would nullify that initial read of the other and make me more suspicious of them as potential partners

[shannon]

D7 is probably my strongest town read and he wants Titus. LUV has supposedly cleared me, and he wants Titus. SSBM made that interesting point yesterday about the Impoetic/Rabbit(Titus) interactions. I think that's where today has got to go.

I'd like to lynch within {Titus, Gerry, Sesq, Ironstove} today. Titus for the aforementioned stuff. Gerry because he was yesterday's second wagon which mysteriously never got anywhere. Ironstove for voting on Gerry's wagon, and then jumping over to vote *with* Gerry on RB's wagon. Sesq because of placement on the RB wagon and because of the interactions with Titus - I feel like that could be a bit of scum theatre.

[Titus]

@Luv, Yeah, D2 is ancient history when it is D4. Nice shade on not making sense, after detailing my position and calling it a lie.

@Shannon, A wagon that never went anywhere on a day we lynched scum is not suspicious. Ironstove is the only decent vote on your list.

@Gerry, Ironstove/shannon/drove, which do you want?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No. Stop.

You were just saying that Day 1 is ancient history when it's only Day 2. That doesn't make sense at all.

[Titus]

We're 1500 posts in. Anything before I subbed in is ancient history. Votes, not words, tell the story.

[drealmerz7]

nothing is ancient history, scum

[drealmerz7]

except ancient history!

[drealmerz7]

We're 1500 posts in. Anything before I subbed in is ancient history. Votes, not words, tell the story.

just utter nonsense