New Year's Eve Masquerade Ball - [Game Over]

[Kagami]

I don't understand why you haven't been actively pushing people to place votes given your belief in the merits of vote analysis.

[mhsmith0]

I don't understand why you haven't been actively pushing people to place votes given your belief in the merits of vote analysis.

THAT is your objection here? Really?

[mhsmith0]

it's far more productive to identify pairs that are town and lynch everyone else indiscriminately

Bonus points for:

1) Pie says she embraces this strategy, has previously posted that jester-mds, me-her, or shadow-maria are all acceptable
2) Pie is voting the SMALLEST of the three wagons (discounting her vote, jester-mds is 2 votes, me-her is 3, shadow-maria is 4)

VOTE: Pieguyn

And now we're a bigger wagon closer to majority. Hop on board if you actually believe it Pie.

[MariaR]

oh shit

[pieguyn]

there is absolutely no fucking way you're town.

like legit, there is absolutely no fucking way you're town if you actually just made these posts.

[mhsmith0]

oh shit smtih is actually town

i fixed your post

PS no shit

[mhsmith0]

there is absolutely no fucking way you're town.

like legit, there is absolutely no fucking way you're town if you actually just made these posts.

then hop on board and see what happens

[MariaR]

UNVOTE:

double what the fuck

[mhsmith0]

there is absolutely no fucking way you're town.

like legit, there is absolutely no fucking way you're town if you actually just made these posts.

UNVOTE:

double what the fuck

The contrast between these two posts is amusing. You two should actually talk about what you think of me.

[MariaR]

I'm going to sleep on this lol

[pieguyn]

I'm starting to feel like this is some weird-ass deflection shit a la what Cakez did re: The MM D1 in yuri mafia.

for anyone who isn't named Nahdia: I feel like mhsmith knows he's not surviving to endgame and is hoping to distract everyone from another scum lynch that's currently on the table that has a greater chance of surviving (Jester or someone in S_S' pair).

[Kagami]

I don't understand why you haven't been actively pushing people to place votes given your belief in the merits of vote analysis.

THAT is your objection here? Really?

The question is whether you're town who is extremely passionate about people dying via lynch rather than vig, or scum who has latched onto this as a pro-town talking point.

[mhsmith0]

I'm starting to feel like this is some weird-ass deflection shit a la what Cakez did re: The MM D1 in yuri mafia.

for anyone who isn't named Nahdia: I feel like mhsmith knows he's not surviving to endgame and is hoping to distract everyone from another scum lynch that's currently on the table that has a greater chance of surviving (Jester or someone in S_S' pair).

And yet you're still not voting me, despite the fact that a red flip on my end would lend credence to that theory.

Tell me why that is again? After all, you're indifferent to which of the three pairs under discussion gets the axe, right?

[mhsmith0]

I don't understand why you haven't been actively pushing people to place votes given your belief in the merits of vote analysis.

THAT is your objection here? Really?

The question is whether you're town who is extremely passionate about people dying via lynch rather than vig, or scum who has latched onto this as a pro-town talking point.

Yes, that is a useful question to consider. Why do you think my interaction with the current non-voters (since one way or another we're going to eventually reach majority) is important wrt sorting the larger question of whether i'm sincere in my giving a damn about voting data or not?

[pieguyn]

yeah, now you're being deliberately dense so I'm not continuing this conversation

[pieguyn]

serious question: how much of the game have you read?

[Nahdia]

i wish i wasnt an ic from game start. being confirmed town from post 1 is hella lame.

[mhsmith0]

yeah, now you're being deliberately dense so I'm not continuing this conversation

Your theory is nonsensical though. If I'm scum and doing this strategically, then my red flip would prove you correct, and this would be part of your legacy, and only enhance the case against one or the other of the current wagons.

I fail to see how this leads to the conclusion that you shouldn't be voting me if you're town and actually believe this "deflection" nonsense.

[mhsmith0]

serious question: how much of the game have you read?

Some of it I've read carefully, some of it I've skimmed. I doubt I could give you an exact answer as to which is which. What's the relevance of that question?

[mhsmith0]

PS In case this wasn't already ridiculously obvious, with every post that you make shading me without actually voting me, I become increasingly prone to thinking your "suspicion" of me is bullshit.

[pieguyn]

Some of it I've read carefully, some of it I've skimmed. I doubt I could give you an exact answer as to which is which. What's the relevance of that question?

you would absolutely know why your "you're not voting the largest wagon even though your aim is to lynch all the non-town pairs" isn't applicable to me if you had read the game (or even skimmed it, probably, since the post where I explained it was very easy to parse).

the only way you'd push this as town is if you literally just straight up missed my post where I explained why I don't want to lynch our pair right at this second.

[Dunnstral]

'I am used to your bad reads'
>picked the scumteam in our equilibrium mafia game (mariar was scum btw)
>picked the scumteam in autumn masquerade
wot
yes i'm a terrible player and yes i often have bad reads but as far as you're concerned i have a pretty clean track record

The scumteam wasn't hard in equili maf because my slot was obv scum

want a cookie?

My timeline maybe incorrect but
@Dunn why did you ask Kagami and not Vedith for the dance?

I wasn't townreading Kagami or Vedith at the time

No offense but I wouldn't want my pt partner to be vedith. In terms of gamesolving and actually holding a conversation

[Dunnstral]

I'm on mobile and busy but:
Mhsmith is scum. Let's lynch him (I'm caught up.)
Hs-parama probably has scum hs
Jester mds can die

Shadow can stop pushing me and admit he wants to lynch kagami and we can talk about that

[mhsmith0]

for the record, the only reason I'm on The_Jester and not mhsmith0 is that I'd like a chance to be able to discuss reads with Kagami with a scum flip on the table (and Nahdia if they're still alive).

if we lynch The_Jester (likely regardless of what he flips), or if we get a scum flip somewhere else, or if Kagami decides to ditch me and go ahead and vote us, then I likely will self vote (and SAD is correct that this approach kills me if I'm scum, since once one of these things happens I really have no option but to invent some reason to push someone else and I look like obvscum).

go ahead, presume I'm scum and discuss the gamestate with nahdia and kagami given that "knowledge".

[Dunnstral]

Smith pushing on pieguy looks like a last ditch effort to get townread