Mini Normal 1857 (Game Over - Mafia Wins!)

[shannon]

Fine I'll spill, I'm actually a 2-shot follower. Didn't want to give it away but you guys won't leave things alone.

Is this one of those things where you keep returning results and we find out you're actually a seventy five shot something or other?

[TTTT]

So should we lynch outside of Titus/LUV and have them both report actions and results tomorrow?
Would that work?

[Titus]

So should we lynch outside of Titus/LUV and have them both report actions and results tomorrow?
Would that work?

That's why LUV changes his claim.

[JaeReed]

VC 2.12

Titus (2)

: drealmerz7, Lil Uzi Vert

Lil Uzi Vert (2)

: gerryoat, TTTT

gerryoat (2)

: ssbm_Kyouko, Sesq

Drone (1)

: Titus

NOT VOTING (4)

: Impoetic, Raskolnikov, shannon, Drone

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

No pagetop. =(

[JaeReed]

What makes me doubt Titus is a backup is the fact that there is no neighbourizer. But I'm not taking the risk. We have a JOAT.

Why do you doubt that neighbor could be a modifier added to a universal backup?

@mod

-- Hypothetical question that you may not be able to answer: Are modifiers (if they exist) applied randomly (like roles) or would they be mod-assigned to specific roles as part of the setup?

Gimme a sec to get back to you on whether I can answer this.

[JaeReed]

What makes me doubt Titus is a backup is the fact that there is no neighbourizer. But I'm not taking the risk. We have a JOAT.

Why do you doubt that neighbor could be a modifier added to a universal backup?

@mod

-- Hypothetical question that you may not be able to answer: Are modifiers (if they exist) applied randomly (like roles) or would they be mod-assigned to specific roles as part of the setup?

Gimme a sec to get back to you on whether I can answer this.

The setup was reviewed for normalcy and balance. This includes all roles and any modifiers that may or may not exist.

[Impoetic]

Can titus not imitate her town meta as scum? Can you elaborate on how she's played to her town meta that you think doesn't apply to her scumgame? and what shenanigans? i literally only defended myself from random accusations and made a few random posts with initial thoughts. The things TTTT mentioned were way back at daystart. Are you saying you, along with drone and TTTT, only just noticed something scummy about them now? Be more specific about why it's scummy, since TTTT has yet to retaliate to anything I've said about it.

In fact, be more specific about everything.

Why is lurking and being AFK scummy? I don't think antitown and scum are one and the same.

[Impoetic]

that was all @sesq, I missed some posts since then. Sorry, I keep forgetting to preview.

[Titus]

Still waiting on any reason for a townread Drone.

[Sesq]

that was all @sesq, I missed some posts since then. Sorry, I keep forgetting to preview.

I was thinking that my point of titus's meta wasnt very good after posting it, but idk. I don't really see scum there, just weird town. but rask is lurking, and her former slot was also a lurker/barely did anything. gerry is obv

[Impoetic]

that was all @sesq, I missed some posts since then. Sorry, I keep forgetting to preview.

I was thinking that my point of titus's meta wasnt very good after posting it, but idk. I don't really see scum there, just weird town. but rask is lurking, and her former slot was also a lurker/barely did anything. gerry is obv

Which one's weird town?

And I just don't understand why lurking is inherently scummy. In my experience -- which is admittedly minimal -- town is just as likely to lurk as scum. Like, in an ideal world, maaaybe that wouldn't be true, but

I don't think it's really that much more optimal for scum than town and I don't think that's what generally goes through your mind as scum (at least not if you're anything like me; I understand some people take a more strategic approach). I think scum are generally more involved than VTs? And have a more urgent motivation to not get lynched by PoE/lurk. It might be antitown for people to lurk overall, hence the ideal world comment, but yeah. I don't see how it's inherent that lurking=scummy, and I feel like that's a really easy way to write off an FoS and not put pressure on yourself for it.

[gerryoat]

Fine I'll spill, I'm actually a 2-shot follower. Didn't want to give it away but you guys won't leave things alone.

rofl

I really don't trust role stuff as
a) really, anything can happen
b) it's based off people's unbacked claims

gerry, your defense is terrible. Actually defend yourself with logic or i'm voting you

rofl you're garbage dude. do you need mentoring? I will mentor you in finding mafia, if need be.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Leave Sesq alone!

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Fine I'll spill, I'm actually a 2-shot follower. Didn't want to give it away but you guys won't leave things alone.

Is this one of those things where you keep returning results and we find out you're actually a seventy five shot something or other?

But no this is the real deal.

[gerryoat]

UNVOTE: Lil Uzi

Probably still mafia for the bad claim and then the bad next claim. But I'll unvote for now.

If it's not obvious I was the counter wagon to RB. and people are trying to do it again. I don't get how people can be so bad in games when it should be obvious I'm town.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Then vote Titus with us if you're town.

[Titus]

Then vote Titus with us if you're town.

You are probably not town.

It's a wonder that you miraculously suggest a plan that has us not lynch you or Drone, and lines you up to kill your vocal critics. Coincidence? You expect me to buy that?

[shannon]

that was all @sesq, I missed some posts since then. Sorry, I keep forgetting to preview.

[shannon]

Not sure how that happened, ignore 1842. What I meant to do is:

[shannon]

Still waiting on any reason for a townread Drone.

[Drone]

If we successfully lynch scum today, there's absolutely no way we're lynching Titus tomorrow, unless guilty by someone. (if any)

Agreed. If we get scum today, especially if that scum is someone Titus scum reads, she's town tomorrow.

That's not what I said, and where I'm heading at..

Hey guys, can we think logically? Why would there be a

1 shot

tracker in a game with a JOAT.

Why would Lil Uzi out right away when there was no votes on him, and he didn't need to claim. It's not like he had a useful report, he had nothing.

This is indeed something I agree with.

Fine I'll spill, I'm actually a 2-shot follower. Didn't want to give it away but you guys won't leave things alone.

From one shot to two shot, from tracker to follower cause we don't leave things alone?
Man you're scummy as fuck, how can you be left alone? You're the one leaving us alone.
Can we talk reads now?

Then vote Titus with us if you're town.

That's the worst thing you can say, if you're town.

VOTE: Raskolnikov

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Drone said nothing since I subbed in. So he took no stance. I don't ISO for ancient history. He avoided the thread entirely during the wagon.

Titus, this is your case on Drone. The majority of us have tossed it out the window because you kept referring to Day 1 as ancient history. If you can give me another reason on why I should vote Drone, please do.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Drone, how does your vote on end up on Rask there?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Drone, how does your vote end up on Rask there?

EBWOP

[Drone]

Because Raskolnikov ain't town until they post.
I know they can help sort things out.