New Year's Eve Masquerade Ball - [Game Over]

[inspectorscout]

Okay im wrong


Mdsis scum

why do you thin kthat's a scum post? It seemed relatively null on first glance; like, it's possible she's scum trying to protect her lover, but I don't think it seemed especially clear that this was actually happening? What in that prompted the quick turnaround?

Again awkward posting by mhsmith.

[inspectorscout]

Also not going to put mds at L-1 yet. I need time. Goodnight

[Dunnstral]

@mhsmith/pieguy did you guys discuss things overnight?

[pieguyn]

And if both are town, we lost already. If even one of them is town, we are at lylo and you can easily talk your way out.

do you disagree with either read? if so, why?

[pieguyn]

@mhsmith/pieguy did you guys discuss things overnight?

not really. the most substantive discussion we had over the night phase was mhsmith hoping we'd die and us agreeing that Cv666's strategy was stupid.

[MiniDeathStar]

Will I be skinned alive if I walk out now?

[mhsmith0]

Yes (unless scout is correct and you're scum)

[mhsmith0]

If you're scum you should bail, if you're town (and think your partner is also town) you should fight. there's little more selfish than a "selfless" suicide in this kind of situation.

[mhsmith0]

@mhsmith/pieguy did you guys discuss things overnight?

not really. the most substantive discussion we had over the night phase was mhsmith hoping we'd die and us agreeing that Cv666's strategy was stupid.

I'd also started talking about out previous back and forth, but pie shut that down pretty quickly by making it clear she didn't want to talk about it. That was another one of those "I think it was realtively villagery of her and it was pretty obnoxious if she was scum" instances.

PS We also talked about you dunn, though not at length. She stated a TR on you based on the way you talked about me underestimating you, I was pretty skeptical that was actually town-indicative.

[mhsmith0]

Okay im wrong


Mdsis scum

why do you thin kthat's a scum post? It seemed relatively null on first glance; like, it's possible she's scum trying to protect her lover, but I don't think it seemed especially clear that this was actually happening? What in that prompted the quick turnaround?

Again awkward posting by mhsmith.

Explain? That seemed like a perfectly reasonable question to ask (it seemed like you were AI-reading something null); what was awkward about it?

[MiniDeathStar]

Statistically speaking, scum was definitely on the wagon. This is awkward useless filler

No. Statistics means nothing. There's only 3 scum and they could have wanted to push another wagon to save Shadow for later. You kind of sound like you *know* for sure scum was on the wagon.

'Id love to say x is scum but i dont want to point fingers so dont hold me accountable, lol'

Hi, Miss Representation, I am Mini. Nice to meet you.

I've been FOS-ing Kagami for literally the whole game. I just said it would be too easy if she was the scum. I guess you haven't been paying much attention to my reads.

So everyone else has the possibility of being scum apart from you and jester, but its up to us to figure it out? Hell no.

Yes. We're leaving now, I know I'm town and I'm pretty sure Jester is town, so yeah. Everyone else has the possibility of being scum, and it will be up to you to figure it out. Like it or not, you made it happen.

If you're so sure I'm scum, vote me. Stop being so afraid.

If you're scum you should bail, if you're town (and think your partner is also town) you should fight. there's little more selfish than a "selfless" suicide in this kind of situation.

Who cares if I fight. Most of the village thinks Jester is the scum. It's pointless. It's better to leave now than be lynched at LYLO and lose the game.

[inspectorscout]

Dont leave.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: parama
I doubt there's no scum in {parama, arthur} and his reaction to shadow/mariar flipping town in our pt is fake as fuck

PEDIT: oh hi parama don't take it personally

Nothing to say to me?

[mhsmith0]

Who cares if I fight. Most of the village thinks Jester is the scum. It's pointless. It's better to leave now than be lynched at LYLO and lose the game.

no, it's better to fight it and force a lynch to actually happen rather than being passive and surrender-y. If you're a mislynch, then the manner in which the lynch happens is useful for the town.

Remember the first suicide? Remember when vedith gamethrew there? And shadow-maria was also a town-town wagon?

Imagine a situation where vedith actually pushed back against the mislynch and forced it to actually happen through the lynch. Knowing now that the two wagons were all town, that would potentially throw what happened into sharp relief: who had a strong prference for one or the other, who got cold feet as the lynch got close, who was just kinda coasting along while town was fightint town, etc.

That's the kind of data you actually need to figure out who is town and who is scum. instead vedith make himself the game's jackass by surrendering and totally screwed us over. Don't be like vedith.

[Dunnstral]

@mhsmith/pieguy did you guys discuss things overnight?

not really. the most substantive discussion we had over the night phase was mhsmith hoping we'd die and us agreeing that Cv666's strategy was stupid.

So why the sudden shift?

How come yesterday you two were gung-ho on each other but today you both want to lynch multiple other people

[pieguyn]

hmm

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: parama
I doubt there's no scum in {parama, arthur} and his reaction to shadow/mariar flipping town in our pt is fake as fuck

PEDIT: oh hi parama don't take it personally

Nothing to say to me?

Didn't you move me from town to scum once I started pushing your pair?

Your self voting looks fake. I believe you're scum over parama in your pair.

Though parama is one of many people who's had a bad entrance into today imo

[Parama]

preferred lynch order rn is sad > kagami > jester > smith > hs btw

[Parama]

my entrance today was "lynch scum"

i fail to see how that's bad

[Dunnstral]

Where I'm at right now:

HS/Parama top lynch
Mhsmith/Pieguy close second

Would lynch either of those two

at a distant third I have Jester pair

And then we'll see from there. Evaluate Kagami and Scout pair if needed

[Dunnstral]

preferred lynch order rn is sad > kagami > jester > smith > hs btw

backwards reads is not a good look.

[pieguyn]

if you read my posts since daystart, you'll find that I've at least already answered that from my end.

p-edit: @Dunn re 3889

[Dunnstral]

Scout: Thoughts on Human Sequencer and Parama?

[inspectorscout]

And if both are town, we lost already. If even one of them is town, we are at lylo and you can easily talk your way out.

do you disagree with either read? if so, why?

I do think parama's agression and just posting whatever is on her mind is townie, although i kind of dislike her case on arthur.

Unlike most others i'm null on jester, probably slightly townie, not fow what he has done but for what others have done. He has been the fallback scumread just like shadow, and that often indicates town.

Okay im wrong


Mdsis scum

why do you thin kthat's a scum post? It seemed relatively null on first glance; like, it's possible she's scum trying to protect her lover, but I don't think it seemed especially clear that this was actually happening? What in that prompted the quick turnaround?

Again awkward posting by mhsmith.

Explain? That seemed like a perfectly reasonable question to ask (it seemed like you were AI-reading something null); what was awkward about it?

'Its possible that shes scum protecting her lover but here she might not be doing it' is a perfect example of not taking a stance in a discussion that can go either way.
The whole post's tone is bad, i hope you can see that




Also @FUNNSTRAL reaf my fucking posts before asking the exact same questions

[pieguyn]

now, for you: how do you possibly justify keeping Jester alive?

has he done something town or?