New Year's Eve Masquerade Ball - [Game Over]

[Dunnstral]

Statistically speaking

no

[mhsmith0]

I will say I'm curious where the dunn-pie back and forth goes, and am willing to potentially reconsider my stance if I see good evidence to do so. But I'm certainly not there at this point in time.

What compelled you to say this out loud?

You understand how this could change the course of events, right?

Huh? How could "I'm not there at this time, but am willing to see where it goes" materially change the course of events?

[Dunnstral]

I'll lay out some information for the rest of the.... well for you guys

HS-Parma pair won't push (and barely interact) with the mhsmith-pieguyn pairing

And they both hard pushing Shadow

Relevant

Dunn/Parama... hmmm

When do you plan on responding to my post?

[Dunnstral]

I think i said the whole post sounded fake.
Also, surprise: i scumread mds the whole game. Ask her. I didnt flip because of 1 post, i just had more trust in it. I do think her frustration afterwards is genuine, tjough.

Do you scumread me? Dont you have any patience? Do you feel the need to vote me?

If I felt the need to vote you I'd be voting. You're much more of a null for me rn, and I feel like other flips would be more hepful in terms of evaluating you.

I think we've had more than enough interactions for you to sort me. If pie isn't satisfied with my reads because they are based on agression and careless posting, why should you have a null-read on a rather active poster who has had multiple interactions with you and with others without her making a problem over it?

Isnt that cherrypicking from her side? When dunn calls her out on that, she throws out a scumread on him. Is that townie?

Somebody sees it

[Parama]

I'll lay out some information for the rest of the.... well for you guys

HS-Parma pair won't push (and barely interact) with the mhsmith-pieguyn pairing

And they both hard pushing Shadow

Relevant

gave my thoughts on pie/smith near the end of first dance, pie is pretty town and i don't particularly feel mhsmith is scum either

[Dunnstral]

I will say I'm curious where the dunn-pie back and forth goes, and am willing to potentially reconsider my stance if I see good evidence to do so. But I'm certainly not there at this point in time.

What compelled you to say this out loud?

You understand how this could change the course of events, right?

Huh? How could "I'm not there at this time, but am willing to see where it goes" materially change the course of events?

Curious that you changed what you actually said, even if the meaning is similar.

If you're thinking one of us is scum (as you said you did) why do you try to almost influence things/posture like that?

[Dunnstral]

I do think parama's agression and just posting whatever is on her mind is townie, although i kind of dislike her case on arthur.

"aggression" and "posting whatever is on their mind" aren't good reasons to seriously town read someone at this point in the game.

Alright. Why should people be town reading you at this point in the game?
After all, isn't "aggression" and "posting whatever is on their mind" your game so far?


Follow-up question: Who's townreading you, and what's your opinion on them

If you're town it would do you good to seriously evaluate this, because by your own logic the people town reading you should be scum.

Yet you're acting contrary to that

[Dunnstral]

Mhsmith if pieguy doesn't answer I want your thoughts on what I said there ^

[pieguyn]

thing with this game is *if* I'm wrong and Jester is town, and if I'm even half right on who the remaining scum are, it's practically insta-loss.

my intuition tells me what's going on here is that Jester is a mislynch and scum are hoping to take advantage of it to solidify their position.

unvote:

I need some time to think; I might actually decide on a Parama lynch over a Jester lynch, depending on how I feel later.

[mhsmith0]

I will say I'm curious where the dunn-pie back and forth goes, and am willing to potentially reconsider my stance if I see good evidence to do so. But I'm certainly not there at this point in time.

What compelled you to say this out loud?

You understand how this could change the course of events, right?

Huh? How could "I'm not there at this time, but am willing to see where it goes" materially change the course of events?

Curious that you changed what you actually said, even if the meaning is similar.

If you're thinking one of us is scum (as you said you did) why do you try to almost influence things/posture like that?

So your issue with what I said is that I didn't really agree w you, and that was somehow going to materially influence things?

I mean, I guess i can see your point about my having responded to the wrong thing, but I still don't see how the (unedited) part had the potential to make a meaningful influence. Like, how exactly does it substantially change anything for me to be expressing a currently skeptical viewpoint?

You were acting like it was important, but I don't understand how it could have been.

[pieguyn]

Dunn, if you're expecting an answer to that, prepare to be disappointed. it's a ridiculous question which you are making several huge stretches to justify.

[Dunnstral]

Mhsmith if pieguy doesn't answer I want your thoughts on what I said there ^

Your turn

I will say I'm curious where the dunn-pie back and forth goes, and am willing to potentially reconsider my stance if I see good evidence to do so. But I'm certainly not there at this point in time.

What compelled you to say this out loud?

You understand how this could change the course of events, right?

Huh? How could "I'm not there at this time, but am willing to see where it goes" materially change the course of events?

Curious that you changed what you actually said, even if the meaning is similar.

If you're thinking one of us is scum (as you said you did) why do you try to almost influence things/posture like that?

So your issue with what I said is that I didn't really agree w you, and that was somehow going to materially influence things?

I mean, I guess i can see your point about my having responded to the wrong thing, but I still don't see how the (unedited) part had the potential to make a meaningful influence. Like, how exactly does it substantially change anything for me to be expressing a currently skeptical viewpoint?

You were acting like it was important, but I don't understand how it could have been.

"It could have influenced the way I acted"

Seems pretty careless of a thing for you to say as town. It reads more as posturing to show other people you're considering something. Ideally you would have given thoughts of your own, or said what you did after I was done talking to pie

[pieguyn]

like the thing with this is neither Dunn _or_ Parama feel worried to me at all.

I might just be reading too much into it, but if Jester is town, scum would know that I'd likely lose most of my credibility after his flip.

[mhsmith0]

"But I'm certainly not there at this point in time." Wasn't my own thoughts? Especially on the back of my already stated town!pie reasoning?

[Parama]

so about all i've gotten from dunn's iso:
"might be scum with kagami because hs was awkward discussing kagami once (but i'm not gonna say where)"
"hs is reaching (but i'm not gonna say where)"
"hs barely interacted with pie (i don't think this is true)"
"responding to questions = defensiveness"
"weak omgus accusation in 3403"

definitely doesn't look like "in detail" to me and i'm not sure what your strong points against HS are even supposed to be, as scattered and unsubstantiated as they are

[Parama]

btw ctrl+f ing for "HS" is hell because mhsmith and minideathstar both have HS in their name too lol
"human" works but doesn't get everything
your iso is super annoying dunn

[Dunnstral]

"But I'm certainly not there at this point in time." Wasn't my own thoughts? Especially on the back of my already stated town!pie reasoning?

Your "thought" was that you didn't have an opinion at the moment

Not really the point I was getting at either

[mhsmith0]

like the thing with this is neither Dunn _or_ Parama feel worried to me at all.

I might just be reading too much into it, but if Jester is town, scum would know that I'd likely lose most of my credibility after his flip.

@mds

I want you to look at what just happened. Lynch gets close, people start talking, someone gets cold feet. I don't know if pie is scum or town for it, but this is why you don't suicide. Stuff can happen. Nothing is inevitable. Remember this in future games, regardless of alignment.

[Dunnstral]

like the thing with this is neither Dunn _or_ Parama feel worried to me at all.

I might just be reading too much into it, but if Jester is town, scum would know that I'd likely lose most of my credibility after his flip.

Worried about what?

[mhsmith0]

"But I'm certainly not there at this point in time." Wasn't my own thoughts? Especially on the back of my already stated town!pie reasoning?

Your "thought" was that you didn't have an opinion at the moment

Not really the point I was getting at either

Then explain your point better.

[Dunnstral]

so about all i've gotten from dunn's iso:
"might be scum with kagami because hs was awkward discussing kagami once (but i'm not gonna say where)"
"hs is reaching (but i'm not gonna say where)"
"hs barely interacted with pie (i don't think this is true)"
"responding to questions = defensiveness"
"weak omgus accusation in 3403"

definitely doesn't look like "in detail" to me and i'm not sure what your strong points against HS are even supposed to be, as scattered and unsubstantiated as they are

I said I'd talk with HS about it tonight. Are you going to engage with mhsmith/pieguy or just keep white knighting HS

[Dunnstral]

"It could have influenced the way I acted"

Seems pretty careless of a thing for you to say as town. It reads more as posturing to show other people you're considering something.

You wouldn't say "if scum kill me, x is town" unless you were wifoming, would you?

[Parama]

gave my thoughts on pie/smith near the end of first dance, pie is pretty town and i don't particularly feel mhsmith is scum either

[Dunnstral]

I do think parama's agression and just posting whatever is on her mind is townie, although i kind of dislike her case on arthur.

"aggression" and "posting whatever is on their mind" aren't good reasons to seriously town read someone at this point in the game.

Alright. Why should people be town reading you at this point in the game?
After all, isn't "aggression" and "posting whatever is on their mind" your game so far?


Follow-up question: Who's townreading you, and what's your opinion on them

If you're town it would do you good to seriously evaluate this, because by your own logic the people town reading you should be scum.

Yet you're acting contrary to that

This is worth a serious answer to and I'm going to quote it until it gets one

[Dunnstral]

gave my thoughts on pie/smith near the end of first dance, pie is pretty town and i don't particularly feel mhsmith is scum either

ok