New Year's Eve Masquerade Ball - [Game Over]

[Dunnstral]

Right. That's not openly pushing you, I'm asking reasonable questions to solve the game

Granted, if I recall I was scumreading your entrance into the day (there might be something in our pt to show that)

I didn't push for a lynch on you. I've been voting HS all day

[Dunnstral]

You seem(ed) to have a problem with me even showing suspicion directed at you.

[Dunnstral]

AND HOW YOUR BEHAVIOR CLEARLY SUGGESTS YOU AREN'T ATTEMPTING TO TIE PARAMA'S PAIR AND MY PAIR TOGETHER.

Well, they are tied together.

[Dunnstral]

I'm only pointing things that exist as connections out. I'm not fabricating realities

[Dunnstral]

Oh, right. Looking back Kagami was telling me she wasn't concerned with your pair at the time of that posting, you keep failing to mention that I included Kagami as a tie-in

[pieguyn]

Never denied that I'm pushing you - I'm just not voting you atm

OK, so where is this magical point where you asking me "reasonable questions to solve the game" becomes a push?

[pieguyn]

Oh, right. Looking back Kagami was telling me she wasn't concerned with your pair at the time of that posting, you keep failing to mention that I included Kagami as a tie-in

I literally do not care in the slightest if you also brought up Kagami. you're attempting to invent an interaction between Parama's pair and my pair that is in reality completely stupid. you throwing Kagami in there on top of us does nothing to change this and you are just obfuscating here.

[Dunnstral]

I do think parama's agression and just posting whatever is on her mind is townie, although i kind of dislike her case on arthur.

"aggression" and "posting whatever is on their mind" aren't good reasons to seriously town read someone at this point in the game.

Alright. Why should people be town reading you at this point in the game?
After all, isn't "aggression" and "posting whatever is on their mind" your game so far?


Follow-up question: Who's townreading you, and what's your opinion on them

Right after this, where you say:

Dunn fits with parama and Jester, I think.

their reads feel off and forced and 3910 is a typical scum sort of "ignoring the motivation someone posts in the game thread to invent some cosmic motivation for someone's posts" push.

In response to me is where I seriously start to consider it as a push.

[Dunnstral]

you're attempting to invent an interaction between Parama's pair and my pair

I'm not making anything up. What I pointed out was factually correct. You can argue that the lack of interaction doesn't tie you together, but you can't argue that I'm making up a lack of interaction between your pairs

[pieguyn]

you are literally just attempting to argue semantics at this point. "oh, here's these posts where I'm asking you 'reasonable questions to solve the game', then I continue to give you the exact same treatment and at some point or another I declare it a 'push'".

you cannot attempt to make the claim that I "overreacted" to you and "acted like you were pushing me" when what you were doing was the exact same thing that you then turned around and called a "push" later

[Dunnstral]

The question isn't meant to be accusatory in nature. I explained that if you're town you should be looking there. I was hoping to discuss that with you.

[Kagami]

would mhsmith be POE at that point, or?

No, smith fits in very nicely.

[Kagami]

Extremely nicely...

[pieguyn]

You can argue that the lack of interaction doesn't tie you together,

I am arguing that 1. this is the case, and 2. you clearly brought it up in a context meant to imply we were scum together for it, despite the fact that "theyre ignoring each other" is a shit interaction even for solo players, so attempting to handwave rule it over entire pairs is even more stupid.

[Kagami]

What is parama at?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Pie can I have a concrete read on mhsmith from you on where you currently stand?

And while you're here, Dunn and Kagami, how are you reading each other right now?

[Dunnstral]

What do you think Kagami? Do you think there are meaningful interactions between mhsmith/pieguy and HS/parama (probably from before I called them out on it)

[Dunnstral]

What is parama at?

There should only be 2 out of 6 votes needed on him.

[pieguyn]

would mhsmith be POE at that point, or?

No, smith fits in very nicely.

I'm going to go ISO him so I can see if I can pick up on whatever you're seeing, but: if it reaches the point where Parama and Jester are scum, would you agree to consolidate and let SAD/scout live to the end?

p-edit: I think slightly more likely town, but nowhere near strong town or and I would not fight to be the last pair standing if other people don't want it.

[Kagami]

Well, I'm going to re-evaluate after each successful scumlynch, but I'm open to leaving as soon as we can agree to a high confidence T-T pair.

[Dunnstral]

Pie can I have a concrete read on mhsmith from you on where you currently stand?

And while you're here, Dunn and Kagami, how are you reading each other right now?

I hold suspicions towards Kagami. I would however not consider voting our pair out at this time. I think if HS is indeed scum the chance of Kagami being scum goes up. Kagami is hard to read.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

What is parama at?

Only me and Dunn I believe are on her since HS unvoted and then voted me-scout.

A lot of people have been calling out her weird and terrible posting today, but they don't vote her, which is worrying and annoying me.

[Dunnstral]

but I'm open to leaving as soon as we can agree to a high confidence T-T pair.

I'm going to remember this for later.

[Kagami]

Pie can I have a concrete read on mhsmith from you on where you currently stand?

And while you're here, Dunn and Kagami, how are you reading each other right now?

I would need a more compelling reason to think he's scum than I've seen thus far for me to leave the dance, and I'm not going to play around with driving a lynch on him if I come to think he's scum with any confidence.

[Dunnstral]

What's your reason now?