New Year's Eve Masquerade Ball - [Game Over]

[MiniDeathStar]

VOTE: Arthur/inspector.

These have some potential of being scum together, HS and Parama don't. I think they should go first.

[pieguyn]

Kagami-san, did you still want to talk to me?

[pieguyn]

I would be OK with letting jester/MDS live to the end on a Dunn town flip, ftr, but have we ruled out the possibility of Jester/Parama/mhsmith? I remember that being a thing earlier.

[Dunnstral]

hm. I'm sure Kagami will have stuff to say in the morning

[Dunnstral]

Interesting time for mhsmith to stop advocating his suiciding = gamethrowing stance, by the way.

Just to be clear, mhsmith/pie pair goes first after us.

I would be OK with letting jester/MDS live to the end on a Dunn town flip, ftr, but have we ruled out the possibility of Jester/Parama/mhsmith? I remember that being a thing earlier.

I think sad/scout is more likely than mds/jester.

[Dunnstral]

So you think the posts you quoted there indicate I'm scum?

no, those indicate the namedropping

ok. And you think the namedropping indicates scum so you're kind of saying those posts are your argument for me being scum?

I said that it's odd and potentially scummy, yes.

You're going to need to go into detail here on how it's scummy or something I wouldn't do as town.

[Dunnstral]

Hmm actually mhsmith does say something but it's a generic blanket thing and doesn't really address us

[pieguyn]

I think sad/scout is more likely than mds/jester.

as in, in terms of who is the most town?

I'm waffling on it. I like SAD/scout more, but if Kagami/you were to agree with the stance everyone else seems to have that it's Jester/MDS, I wouldn't fight it.

[inspectorscout]

Dunn darling
You are never kind to me, but now. Pocketing possible?

I'm fine w dying, rn
IF you lynch pie/smith RIGHT AFTER I flip town
And please dont let mds casually slide to endgame if pie flips scum.

We'll talk at endgame.

[pieguyn]

I wonder if Parama's posts along the lines of 4761 are indicative of a Jester/Parama/mhsmith team that doesn't want the plan in its current iteration to be executed.

[Dunnstral]

You are never kind to me, but now.

ouch

Pocketing possible?

You're delusional

I'm fine w dying, rn
IF you lynch pie/smith RIGHT AFTER I flip town
And please dont let mds casually slide to endgame if pie flips scum.

I can agree to that. The part where you die, at least. Also the lynching pie/smith part after if you flip town part.
not sure what you mean by mds casually slide to endgame when she's clearly a member of the town.... parama pair would be lynched somewhere in there

We'll talk at endgame.

Spooky

[inspectorscout]

also consider funnstral as scum instead of kagami

[inspectorscout]

After I flip town ofc
Especially if arthur flips scum

[pieguyn]

I can agree to that. The part where you die, at least. Also the lynching pie/smith part after if you flip town part.
not sure what you mean by mds casually slide to endgame when she's clearly a member of the town.... parama pair would be lynched somewhere in there

if SAD/scout flips town/town, lynch this, immediately.

this is pure opportunism, in a position where we specifically need to WAIT until we have a plan in place before proceeding. I think he thinks scout will suicide and is hoping to capitalize on it, and then lynch my pair for the win.

[pieguyn]

like as soon as I saw that scout post I thought "god, scout is probably thinking about being an idiot and explicitly going against everyone else in the game and suiciding out of his own arrogance" and then my next thought was "if Dunn is scum he's probably going to goad him on".

[inspectorscout]

I msy be bad



But I'm not retarded.

[pieguyn]

well, now that you've confirmed you won't, I believe you, but it's more about Dunn's expectation of your behavior than what you'd actually do.

[inspectorscout]

Dunn expects exactly nothing from me
Basically the reason why I'm paranoid of pocketing

[Human Sequencer]

@funnstral
I really can't agree with that plan. I'm sorry.
It really doesn't matter though, because I probably won't be around to see it. I haven't dug too much into isos and associations yet (usually best to save that for post flip imo) but there's some things in there I just can't agree with, like this.

If, however, HS/Parama flips town:

My biggest suspect would be mhsmith/pieguy. Of the two, mhsmith is more likely. Though it can certainly be pieguy

If HS/Parama flips town, Arthur/scout must die.

But on the other hand, you've clearly done more research into it and I really feel like you're town. So I'm not entirely sure I can objectively fault it.
I just can't see pie/smith being scum. I could absolutely be wrong. I just don't believe it to be the case. And if either of them are scum, I have been thoroughly outplayed.

and no its not just because i rent to them both for living in their pockets i promise :<

[Kagami]

What's the point of 1672 if SAD is scum?

[Kagami]

I also think 1721 is more likely town than not.

[Kagami]

If we want to entertain the sad-parama crossbus theory, which I don't think is correct, then parama was positioning for it pretty far back, at least at 1897.

[Kagami]

2170-2172 seems a little unlikely if parama and smith are scum, but not jester/mds. Doesn't make sense to be incriminatingly belligerent about someone being exactly right when there is already no chance of anyone listening to him.

[Kagami]

Tigers appear to have eaten a longer post, but tl;dr is that 1216 is an interesting post given the gamestate at the time.

[Parama]

But I think that's a lot less likely than scum!Dunn, town!Parama and town!Smith, with scum!Jester and scum!Arthur.

for the record i think this is the most likely scenario if dunn is the scum in the kagami/dunn pair, which is looking increasingly more likely