New Year's Eve Masquerade Ball - [Game Over]

[Kagami]

New Year's Eve Masquerade Ball

PLAYERLIST

• Gentlemen
  1. Gamma Emerald, who was
     Town

     Gentleman
     , has
     left
     in
     first dance
     .
     
  2. Dunnstral
     
  3. Sickofit1138, who was
     Town

     Gentleman
     , has
     left
     in
     pre-dance
     .
     
  4. Ser Arthur Dayne
     
  5. The_Jester
     
  6. Shadow_step, who was
     Town

     Gentleman
     , has
     left
     in
     first dance
     .
     
  7. Human Sequencer
     
  8. mhsmith0
     
  9. Cerberus v666, who was
     Town

     Gentleman
     , has
     left
     in
     intermission
     .
  
  
• Ladies
  1. pieguyn
     
  2. MariaR, who was
     Town

     Lady
     , has
     left
     in
     first dance
     .
     
  3. Parama
     
  4. Vedith, who was
     Town

     Lady
     , has
     left
     in
     first dance
     .
     
  5. Nahdia, who was
     Town

     Lady
     , has
     left
     in
     intermission
     .
     
  6. MiniDeathStar
     
  7. inspectorscout
     
  8. Kagami
  
  
• Pairs
  1. The_Jester - MiniDeathStar
     
  2. Human Sequencer - Parama
     
  3. Ser Arthur Dayne - inspectorscout
     
  4. Cerberus v666 - Nahdia
     
  5. mhsmith0 - pieguyn
     
  6. Gamma Emerald - Vedith
     
  7. Dunnstral - Kagami
     
  8. Shadow_step - MariaR

Vote Counts and other events

Human Sequencer asks Parama
The_Jester asks MiniDeathStar
MiniDeathStar accepts The_Jester
Gamma Emerald asks MariaR
Human Sequencer asks Vedith
Cerberus v666 asks Nahdia
Ser Arthur Dayne asks inspectorscout
Shadow_step asks MariaR
Parama accepts Human Sequencer
inspectorscout accepts Ser Arthur Dayne
Dunnstral asks MariaR
Nahdia accepts Cerberus v666
mhsmith0 asks pieguyn
pieguyn accepts mhsmith0
Gammr Emerald asks Vedith
Dunnstral asks Kagami
Vedith accepts Gamma Emerald
Kagami accepts Dunnstral
MariaR accepts Shadow_step
1.1 | 1.2 | 1.3 | 1.4 | 1.5 | 1.6 | 1.7 | Vedith leaves | 1.8 | 1.9 | 1.10 | 1.11 | 1.12 | 1.13 | 1.14 | 1.15 | 1.16 | 1.17 | 1.18 | 1.19 | 1.20 | 1.21 | Shadow_step leaves
2.1 | 2.2 | 2.3 | 2.4 | 2.5 | 2.6 | 2.7 | 2.8 | Human Sequencer leaves | 2.9

Spoiler: Setup

Setup

• 3 Mafia Gentlemen/Ladies
  vs
  14 Town Gentlemen/Ladies, Open setup
  
• The game will include four phases,
  pre-dance
  ,
  first dance
  ,
  intermission
  , and
  second dance
  .
  Pre-dance
  will last 8 days,
  intermission
  will last 2 days, and each
  dance
  will be 8 days.
  
• One player will be confirmed as aligned with
  Town
  at game start.
  
• During the
  pre-dance
  , a
  Gentleman
  can ask a
  Lady
  to the dance in thread. Each
  Lady
  can accept only one dance proposal.
  
• At the end of the
  pre-dance
  , any player who doesn't have a dance partner will be asked to leave the dance. (death)
  
• Each dance pair will then become Lovers, and they will be given a private topic to discuss the game.
  
• During the
  dances
  , normal nightless lynch mechanics will take over. Every lynch will reset the deadline to 8 days. If the Mafia makes up 50% or more of the remaining players at any point, Mafia immediately wins. If all of the Mafia are lynched, then Town wins. If the game runs out of time and at least one Mafia is still alive, then Mafia wins.
  
• First dance
  will end if there are 12 players or fewer left alive or deadline is reached. During the
  intermission
  , Mafia may secretly force one of the dance pairs to leave.
  Second dance
  will then begin, and continue until the game's end.
  
• Also, at any point during the
  dance
  , a player may voluntarily leave (he/she dies and his/her alignment flips), which forces his/her partner to leave as well.

Spoiler: Ruleset

FakeGod's Mafia RuleSet

• ONE: FUNDAMENTALS
  • All site-wide rules apply. Read and respect them.
    
  • There is no personal communication outside the forum postings (regarding this game) unless your role specifically allows it.
    
  • Do not quote your Role PM or any private communication (either real or fabricated) with the moderator, co-moderator, backup-moderator, or fellow players. Paraphrasing your Role PM is acceptable.
    
  • Be courteous and respectful to all your fellow players and the moderating team.
    
  • Play to your Win Condition.
• TWO: DANCE PHASE
  • Votes must be
    bolded
    or they shall not be counted. Abbreviating someone's name is acceptable, so long as I can discern who you were voting for without trouble.
    
  • Unvoting is not required, but is much appreciated by the mods. If you control more than one vote, Unvoting will unvote all of your votes, unless you specify which vote you unvote.
    
  • Once you have reached a simple majority (half of all living players plus one) that person will be lynched.
• THREE: INTERMISSION PHASE
  • Any role or faction with night abilities may choose to use them by PM-ing the mod with their choice.
    
  • If no action is received, no action will be taken. All actions received after the deadline has passed will not be valid.
• FOUR: CAPITAL OFFENSES
  • Do not quote your Role PM or any private communication (either real or fabricated) with the moderator, co-moderator, or backup-moderator. Paraphrasing your Role PM is acceptable.
    
  • There is to be no personal communication outside the forum postings (regarding this game) unless your role specifically allows it.
    
  • The following is a list of outlawed shenanigans:
    • Using invisible text, codes, cryptography, etc.
      
    • Editing your posts (if you have the power to do so)
      
    • Insulting other players
      
    • Quoting any PTs you may have access to
  • If any of these offenses are committed, I have the right to force-replace you from the game or modkill you.
• FIVE: MISCELLANEOUS
  • Feel free to address me in-thread, but if there is a large egregious mistake please PM me. Small matters like errors in the votecount can be posted in-thread.
    
  • I have the final say on any issue. I reserve the right to force-replace and modkill at my will.
    
  • This is a game. Have fun, and keep the game fun for other people. Stay civilized, please.
    
  • I have the right to edit this RuleSet at any time.

Spoiler: Role PMs

∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾ Lady FakeGod, you are hereby cordially invited to the three hundred and fifty-eighth annual New Year's Eve Masquerade Ball You are aligned with Town ∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾

∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾ Gentleman FakeGod, you are hereby cordially invited to the three hundred and fifty-eighth annual New Year's Eve Masquerade Ball You are aligned with Town ∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾

∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾ Lady FakeGod, you are hereby cordially invited to the three hundred and fifty-eighth annual New Year's Eve Masquerade Ball You are aligned with Mafia ∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾

∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾ Gentleman FakeGod, you are hereby cordially invited to the three hundred and fifty-eighth annual New Year's Eve Masquerade Ball You are aligned with Mafia ∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾ ❁ ∾

There's almost no chance Dunn is scum. Will go over it when I'm not mobile, but the tl;dr is HS-interactions and his indignant reaction to being ignored today is beyond what I suspect his scum self is capable.

[Kagami]

Oops.

[mhsmith0]

Thank god parama flipped scum. I'll be rereading sometime this weekend given the flip.

My gut says that she spewed kagami town with her push there, but want to reread to be more confident of that one. Will see if she likely spewed anyone else one way or the other along the way.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

LMAO

I was doubting if I had become absolute garbage at this game and whether I should just go back on hiatus.

I STILL HAVE MY KILLER SCUMHUNTING SKILLS BOIS. (Okay ignore Shadow... and Vedith).

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Seriously gtfo with your weak shit if you wanted to mislynch me you NEED TO IN COME GUNS A BLAZING.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Okay so I barely have time today and tomorrow for Christmas stuff. But I want to reread Parama when I have time and make new tier list.

NOW is the time you use association tells when you have a scumflip. I hope to see everyone who spent a million posts pulling random pairings from thin air now make more logical pairings with evidence unless it was literally just scum trying to cause diversion.

[mhsmith0]

Skimming parama ISO, there were a few posts relating to jester/mds I want to dig into more. I feel like her treatment of their pair, including the multiple times they were a wagon, ought to spew them one way or the other. That's probably the priority item for me on closer reread. Fortunately we have 8 days again so I don't need to go nuts during Christmas weekend.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Scout-Sad

[Dunnstral]

Dadadadadadadadadada

https://youtu.be/JaHvO3SJ2c4?t=1m14s

was thinking more like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p5tWONPBp0

Nice song skills tho

[Dunnstral]

Best lynch for today is HS/Parama. I said before either of them could be scum but it was probably HS, well my view has shifted. I think it's more likely to be Parama. Look at this play today compared to the first day. First day he was gung-ho about lynching a town pair. Today he's.... doing nothing? Even though pressure is forming on them they're not really responding and it doesn't seem like they're trying to figure things out. Keep note of this, because I'm going to bring it up again later

If we lynch the pair today and HS is scum after all, I'd put the lynch order at something like:

HS/Parama

---> Jester/MDS
If jester/mds flips town, I'd believe kagami as scum I wouldn't want to kill kagami before jester/mds

Jester/MDS ---> Kagami/me

If Jester/MDS flips scum from there instead, I would evaluate things again from that position

If Parama flips scum

(and here's where most of what I've been talking about comes into play):

HS/Parama

---> SAD/Scout

Now here me out on this one. I've been toying around with the idea of a bus situation - now, this doesn't tell me

which

of the two are scum. Though I very much doubt they're both scum (which pie/kagami seem to think might be likely)

Here is why the order we kill people is important:

If Scout flips scum, I'd very much reconsider my read on mhsmith/pieguy pair. For obvious reasons, past interactions, what he's pushing today, etc.
I'd reevaluate the game from there.

If SAD flips scum (with Scout town) I'd be inclined to vote mhsmith/pieguy and that's probably game.

I know want this pair to be the pair that everyone suicides for that doesn't die. I don't. There's evidence to back this up:

-IC pair was killed. While this is a weak link, it suggests that scum were happy with the current state of affairs. If scum were all under heavy fire they'd likely wifom it and let cerb fall under suspicion
-Parama isn't doing anything. They're trying to look like they're doing something, but honestly it looks to me as if they've accepted their death. Possibly because it's all part of a bus.
-Scout doesn't deserve to be townread for... whatever he is for. Feels like whenever people talk about scout it's "Oh, dunn is scummy for pushing this and ignoring this other thing. JUST LIKE SCOUT DID BUT HE'S GENUINE ABOUT IT"
-SAD... well, scum can have good games. I've never played with him before so it would be folly to assume this is outside of his scum game.
-if either of these

fine gentlemen

are scum they're hoping to be SET on a parama scum flip and taking it to the end.

So to recap:

HS/Parama

---> SAD/Scout
If scout is scum

HS/Parama

--->

SAD/Scout

---> Jester/MDS (Probably, would think about it)

If SAD is scum

HS/Parama

--->

SAD/Scout

---> mhsmith/pieguy

If, however, HS/Parama flips town:

My biggest suspect would be mhsmith/pieguy. Of the two, mhsmith is more likely. Though it can certainly be pieguy

Take a look at the following quote:

Note that I continue talking to her. And said we weren't in a rush to lynch someone else as I was figuring things out.

The point is, at a meaningful leverage point, you doubtcast it and unvoted, cutting the legs out of its potential momentum. This suggests, to me, that your alignment is likely tied in with that pair's, since if all three wagons were town, then scum!you doesn't really have much incentive to bail on the wagon, while if the jester/mds pair had a wolf in it, then scum!you has a great incentive to seize on "that's not a slip" to try and derail the wagon and change the conversation in a way that isn't really all that likely to grab a large amount of attention. You can nitpick at it, but it's absolutely true that if jester-mds was a scum wagon you derailed it at an fairly important point in time, and "dunn drops a distancing vote and then bails when it actually gathers some momentum" is clearly a plausible explanation for what happened.

The way mhsmith tries to tie me in with jester looks

off

here. Though it would be a bizarre state where he's pushing his own scum buddy while town pushes someone else so I'm not quite sold on this

Still, though:

HS/Parama

---> mhsmith/pieguy ---> Jester/MDS
Not sure beyond this. Would rethink. Might be Kagami in this scenario




Anyway:

@scout If you're town I'll definitely go after mhsmith/pie next. Order really is important. I can't lynch mhsmith/pie while doubting your slot.

@pieguy First of all now that my thoughts are out here you can stop saying I'm bussing and trying to chain lynch your pair (which is scum more often than not) because I'd actually vote SAD/scout.
Second:

um, what?

I legit don't know what you're talking about here; if I dismissed anything it wasn't my intention.

I'm talking about these posts around this time period:

SAD/Jester/Parama would mean that the scum team has been going for a mass-distancing approach the entire game, probably with the goal of getting SAD to endgame.

it's what the scum team the last game did, so I wouldn't rule it out, but... ugh.

Which actually came around 10 minutes after I said something eerily similar in my pt (though it was your pair instead of jester)

[Dunnstral]

Now that I'm no longer under imminent danger of suicide, let's follow my plan

[Dunnstral]

I'm more inclined to believe lady pieguy is aligned with the town after last night

mhsmith is prob scum in there

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

You're taking it out of context. It was a hypothetical where Dunn and Kagami are both town and you're scum *instead* of Arthur. Like, as much as I think Jester is town, you flipping scum and Kagami flipping town means either a Parama/Arthur crossbus, inspector/Arthur scum/scum, or Smith/Jester scumteam. Which of the 3 do you think is more likely?

Okay so by this logic you literally should be voting Parama but instead are voting me good to know you want to mislynch me too.

I still haven't reread much.

I remembered though this exchange from earlier where MDS felt like she was setting up for a Parama scumflip but also refusing to commit to the wagon in hopes of derailing it.

Like she was going "I think Parama is scum trust me I do but I'm just gonna go ahead and vote Arthur".

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

There's almost no chance Dunn is scum. Will go over it when I'm not mobile, but the tl;dr is HS-interactions and his indignant reaction to being ignored today is beyond what I suspect his scum self is capable.

Uhh I don't see it at all you're gonna have to explain it much much better for the class because I actually really don't like his posting on the last few pages.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Now that I'm no longer under imminent danger of suicide, let's follow my plan

Your plan involves lynching me regardless of Parama flip?

Fuck off you're either scum attempting to finish what Parama couldn't or you seriously need to evaluate how bad you are at this game. Using a fucking pre-flip plan now without reading any of Parama or people's interaction with her.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

My biggest paranoia though is mhsmith/Pie scumteam with Parama.

Pie's refusal to commit to the Parama wagon doesn't sit right with me.

The problem is so many people fucking doubted my push on Parama because I pushed a mislynch so I can't tell how many of those are genuinely people who lost trust in me or were having doubts and how many are scum refusing to commit fully to bussing and trying to instead derail it to a town mislynch.

I'm actually inclined to think right now Dunn is just VI and scum were trying to wait off for near deadline so then Kagami leaves dance to prevent scum victory and they can get a mislynch that way, but I don't really know.

[Dunnstral]

There's almost no chance Dunn is scum. Will go over it when I'm not mobile, but the tl;dr is HS-interactions and his indignant reaction to being ignored today is beyond what I suspect his scum self is capable.

Uhh I don't see it at all you're gonna have to explain it much much better for the class because I actually really don't like his posting on the last few pages.

You're the one who needs to explain to the class.

[Dunnstral]

Now that I'm no longer under imminent danger of suicide, let's follow my plan

Your plan involves lynching me regardless of Parama flip?

Fuck off you're either scum attempting to finish what Parama couldn't or you seriously need to evaluate how bad you are at this game. Using a fucking pre-flip plan now without reading any of Parama or people's interaction with her.

I had evaluated the game before the flip.

[Dunnstral]

What do you think of mhsmith/pieguy if scout is scum?

[inspectorscout]

Funnstral


Pie/smith has scum. Period.
It's odd that you NEED my flip to reevaluate that.

[Dunnstral]

I'm not under pressure of suicide so I went back to what I was doing before.

Ordering is important. If you're town I intend to lynch mhsmith/pie next regardless of SAD flip

I think if you're town, SAD is scum. and vice-versa

I've kind of been explaining this for a while?

[Dunnstral]

Pie/smith has scum. Period.
It's odd that you NEED my flip to reevaluate that.

Are you implying the scum team is me and one of pie/smith?

[inspectorscout]

I think
after the parama flip
That arthur may be town

We lynch pie/smith, then we lynch you, then we win
Pedit: take a wild guess.

[Dunnstral]

I think that theory is bollocks.

The first part is what you'd be saying as scum.

[Dunnstral]

Also It's better to do this lynch now since there's a lot of resistance to it