In Memory

[Creeps20]

I think I will VOTE: Dreamerz

I don't like how he didn't immediately vote KTS when he scum read him. He also admitted he is OK with policy lynching. And I don't exactly like that.

That's why you ISO random people

[Gamma Emerald]

1: Creeps you're really just random ISOing?
2: Why are you such a non-entity?

[Creeps20]

1: Creeps you're really just random ISOing?

At this point i see no reason not to. Besides it gives scum less hiding room

2: Why are you such a non-entity?

Because I try to not distract, honestly, and when I post more I get killed

[Postie]

If you post too little you'll end up being lynched so I suggest you speak up bit more.

[Creeps20]

If you post too little you'll end up being lynched so I suggest you speak up bit more.

In the past only once have I posted a lot and lived. And that was a newbie game.

[Postie]

Well if you're not persuading the town to lynch scum then you being alive doesn't really help us much, does it?

[RadiantCowbells]

In Memory

Votecount 3.76:

ɀefiend (3): The DEO, Gamma Emerald
Creature (1): KuroiXHF
KuroiXHF (1): Creeps20
Mhsmith0 (1): Creature
The DEO (1): ɀefiend
drealmersz7 (0):
Gamma Emerald (0):
Vaxkiller (0):
Postie (0):
Creeps20 (0):
JaeReed (0):
Klingoncelt (0):

Not Voting: Postie, drealmerz7, Vaxkiller, Klingoncelt, Mhsmith0, JaeReed

With 12 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

The day will end in (expired on 2017-01-19 21:00:00).

[drealmerz7]

I think I will VOTE: Dreamerz

I don't like how he didn't immediately vote KTS when he scum read him. He also admitted he is OK with policy lynching. And I don't exactly like that.

That's why you ISO random people

I'm scum because I didn't vote my scum read as quickly as you wanted me to??

you mean when I was like 20 pages behind catching up and didn't just toss out a vote without knowing what the vote count was?

or, what DO you mean? can you please point out what exactly you're talking about so I can address it? thanks

where would you have liked my immediacy vote? pinpoint it, say "here is where he should have voted, but didn't, and it is scummy because ______" and then you fill in the blank

[drealmerz7]

zefiend likely scum very much it is seeming, but will wait to see what he says when he's "at a computer"

[drealmerz7]

You need to adapt to playstyles other than your own.

I play with many different people with many different playstyles, the thing is, THEY KNOW HOW TO PLAY.

it's not about playstyle, and knowing basic concepts of mafia

anyway...zefiend is just trying to AtE some votes on me

[drealmerz7]

but about

knowing basic concepts of mafia

basic concepts of the game:

everyone is trying to convince everyone else that they're Town or is at least trying to appear to be doing so

Town is a team trying to work together towards a common goal which is to find scum and kill them, this is how your team wins

in order to help your team win you must work together to find scum, so let us work together to find scum

how do we do that? well, we all have different perspectives and see different things about what is going on, much of which is inaccurate - we're all trying to see the same picture through an ever-changing fog and one of us catches this little snip of clarity and someone else catches a little snippet of clarity, and those all get mixed into our other snippets of fog - then we start sharing all of our snippets "I saw this and this and this and I think I saw this and this" and someone else says "well I saw it like this and this and then there was this and this and I think what you say in that one this is actually this because I saw a part of that too but I also saw this other stuff" - and we all do that, and it ALLLL gets put out there and then we go "so which of this looks like these are the true clarity pieces and which of them are wrong" - and we kill each other and get clarity and grow more clarity hopefully from it, until hopefully finally we figure out what it really looks like through the fog

BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT if people aren't sharing what they see and how they see it - it's not teamwork and that's anti-town, simple as that

why would you want to be anti-town? you want to help your team win, or at least appear to be doing so, so just don't do it

be pro-town, don't be afraid of being wrong, that is the nature of the game, you're not going to be right more often than you're wrong most of the time and your ego needs to be okay with that and just focus on the task at hand

I'm not going to ADAPT to people's ANTI-TOWN playstyles as town, ever, it's SHITTY PLAY and unnecessarily lazy shitty play too

[ɀefiend]

You need to adapt to playstyles other than your own.

I play with many different people with many different playstyles, the thing is, THEY KNOW HOW TO PLAY.

it's not about playstyle, and knowing basic concepts of mafia

anyway...zefiend is just trying to AtE some votes on me

What did you concoct this incredulous theory from?
Show me where I used AtE?
Show me where I am attempting to get votes on you?
Show me where I even attempt to push you AT ALL?

[JaeReed]

Drealmerz hesitation and push on Lycan after I told him the choice is why I pressured him. Scum Drealmerz likely doesn't call out zefiend there.

Then why didn't you vote me over drealmerz there?

[drealmerz7]

perhaps I did it to see if you try to use it as a distraction or if you actually keep focus and do what you said you were going to do?

which we're waiting for, you at a computer now? is it coming? do you even know what you're looking for in support of your strong-man argument?

[JaeReed]

Yeah its hard to read, but for this game he gets a pass because of his role, im pretty much treating him like an innocent child at this point.

VOTE: Vaxkiller

[KuroiXHF]

Mod: V/LA for the weekend.

[Postie]

Yeah its hard to read, but for this game he gets a pass because of his role, im pretty much treating him like an innocent child at this point.

VOTE: Vaxkiller

?

[JaeReed]

Treating him like an IC for his flavour reveal and the double day which we're not even sure was caused by him is a lazy af read. It deserves a vote while I continue my reread, at the very least.

[Postie]

I read it more as stupid than lazy.

[mhsmith0]

I read it more as stupid than lazy.

+1

[mhsmith0]

And to the extent that it is lazy, I don't see how it's lazy in a non-villagery way. I could easily see a villager writing him off as probably town and only worry about tinfoiling there sometime later on if needed.

[mhsmith0]

Ps in the absence of my doing a substantive reread, which I'll get to but not immdediately (likely sometime this weekend) I kinda want to see where zef vs dreal goes

[mhsmith0]

VOTE: zefiend

Avoiding RachMarie wagon, and accusing me of strongarming when someone said we needed a decision made. Yeah, don't think so.

Drealmerz hesitation and push on Lycan after I told him the choice is why I pressured him. Scum Drealmerz likely doesn't call out zefiend there.

1. Omgus
2. Blatant misrepresentation about the RM slot lynch
3. I'm not talking about the RM slot lynch
4. I'm talking about SS and Lycanfire (whether it was Math or you IDC, it's the same slot)

This is how I know you're scum -- trying to talk over everyone else. When I get to a computer I can put a proper case together.

I'm also curious about this. What do you mean by Titus

trying to talk over everyone else

and why exactly do you think it's wolfy? Do you mean she just has an opinion and is pushing it? Something else that I can't really follow?

[Vaxkiller]

Why is town reading creature dumb (or lazy) and why would you think the 2nd day is not caused by him?

(Scifi nerds read on)
I kind of doubt were on Trisolaris with multiple suns.

[Postie]

Why is town reading creature dumb (or lazy) and why would you think the 2nd day is not caused by him?

Because as far as I'm aware his double day ability is compulsive and so it could easily be a negative-utility scum power. Especially considering RC has given scum compulsive double day before.