In Memory

[drealmerz7]

for all I know my character was lame and used a gun in lycan's flavor

that would be silly though

[The DEO]

I smell fish and I am not at a farmer's market.

~~Math

[JaeReed]

Spoiler: the number of times I posted between these posts was 0 lol

Thanks for that. Yeah actually 205 pings me really hard. I'd be fine with Vax I think.

My problem is that I've been interrogating Gamma in our PT and he always find really vague and unhelpful ways to answer all of my questions. I've been asking as many, specific, questions as possible, but I can't get a single thing out of him that isn't ridiculously generic. And with Titus apparently wanting to use him to pass messages to me because RC would ~never~ put two scum in a 3p neighbourhood, keeping him alive could be potentially disastrous if Titus starts giving him important role info or some bullshit.

Then don't tell him anything useful. I don't think Titus is likely to derp that hard.
We also don't know boring's alignment, and I can't see a pro-town reason for her flip to be hidden and no one to have outed themselves as the culprit yet. This means it was either scum or her own role. The way she was talking to me indicates that she actually thought she was going to flip. I think it's more than likely that boring was actually town, and scum janitored the flip in order to hide that fact so we'd mislynch Lycan. drealmerz fucked it on them by shooting him.

The way I'm seeing it:
Gamma may or may not be scum, but if he is, then it's most probable that his partner is Vaxkiller anyway. If he isn't then that was scum whiteknighting town.
I'd rather go for the one I have more confidence in flipping scum with either scenario.

Where did Drealmerz say they shot Lycanfire?

And if they did why aren't Drealmerz your top scumread?

~~Math

(insert placeholder JaeReed vote til I talk with Titus head more.

Didn't ask specifics JaeReed was pretty uninvested I just asked for reads as a launching platform)

Yeah but zefiend's rant the kind of thing I can see scum walking in and saying because the content of those posts actually does nothing to move the game forward and is just pointless drivel, but there's ranty emotions behind it, and it therefore comes across to me as just being designed to show off the emotional aspect of the post to give the illusion that zefiend is invested in the game.

I don't appreciate this post, at all.

I invested a LOT of time into casing DEO and it stirred up a great deal of discussion. Unfortunately, most of that discussion devolved into metagaming, which in case you didn't already know, I am not a fan of.

I still find the D1 push to be scum-motivated. The lack of much Titus in this thread recently doesn't help, either. Since that topic went by the wayside, I don't find there to be much redeeming conversation at the moment. I DO appreciate you trying though, to engage Kuroi.

The way drealmerz(I think) described the game as "floating in space" or whatever is how I feel too. I really,

really

hate leaving a Ranger-esque reads list, but if anyone wants to talk about them or do the same, it might help.

Postie, drealmersz7, Creature -- town
JaeReed -- townlean
Klingoncelt, Vaxkiller, Mhsmith0 -- neutral
Creeps20, KuroiXHF -- no clue
Gamma Emerald -- scumlean
The DEO -- scum

Time is not alignment indicative and neither is effort.

~~Math

It is what you do with the time you have.

Still waiting on that answer JaeReed.

[The DEO]

Yes I agree. It was when I thought you had slipped and was trying to make you feel cornered.

~~Math

[mhsmith0]

Hey, Jae. Glad you're here.
Anything you want to tell us about last night?

I'm not answering this.

OK, so at least I know you know something.
And that you're not willing to chat with everyone about what we both know.

Kuroi, do you want to talk about this?

[The DEO]

So assume Lycanfire is a vig kill by Drealmerz.

Where is the scum kill then?

Whoever was shot was probably town unless there is an SK or a doctor healed the NK target. Given the wifom and sheer miracle I am doubting the second.

So for Lycanfire to be a vig kill that means scum either shot Lycanfire, shot someone BP or didn't shoot.

Odd

~~Math

[The DEO]

On Day 2, RachMarie Boring passed into Valinor.
On Night 2, LycanFire was killed. He was Tito, representing the nation of Yugoslavia, Town Delayed Death 1-Shot Informing Redirector.

Did anyone claim redirected?

~~Math

[The DEO]

@mod does informing mean "loud"?

[mhsmith0]

mhsmith0 has been largely unimpressive in a really bad way. I'm not sure if it's alignment indicative or just indicative that he's not invested in the game.

The latter but I don't really expect everyone to realize it. I'll be more involved when I get some more time I guess.

[mhsmith0]

I feel really good about Gamma, Postie, Vax, and Creature ftr.

What in partuclar makes you feel good about gamma and vax?

[mhsmith0]

I'll try and spend some time productively digging into zef/gamma/vax and figure out where my vote should go. Sorry for being relatively useless the past few days.

[RadiantCowbells]

@mod does informing mean "loud"?

Sort of. The mechanic is the same as YOUR role in my previous upick and the mechanics were revealed with his flip.

[The DEO]

@mod does informing mean "loud"?

Sort of. The mechanic is the same as YOUR role in my previous upick and the mechanics were revealed with his flip.

I wasn't in the previous upick. I know I can ask Titus but that isn't helpful for those in the thread.
~~Math

[The DEO]

FYI We were not redirected.

~~Math

If anyone was redirected now is the time to speak up or forever hold your peace.

[RadiantCowbells]

Oh shit I misheaded you

Read his flip!

[ɀefiend]

mhsmith0 has been largely unimpressive in a really bad way. I'm not sure if it's alignment indicative or just indicative that he's not invested in the game.

The latter but I don't really expect everyone to realize it. I'll be more involved when I get some more time I guess.

This is literally the textbook definition of posturing.

VOTE: mhsmith

[ɀefiend]

I'll try and spend some time productively digging into zef/gamma/vax and figure out where my vote should go. Sorry for being relatively useless the past few days.

What the fuck, meant to quote this post.

[The DEO]

So you mean you are an alt of Titus and Me?

~~Math

Wasn't sure if redirect would be announced in thread.

[The DEO]

That is clearly a joke RC.

~~Math

Going to go shoulder pain.

[mhsmith0]

mhsmith0 has been largely unimpressive in a really bad way. I'm not sure if it's alignment indicative or just indicative that he's not invested in the game.

The latter but I don't really expect everyone to realize it. I'll be more involved when I get some more time I guess.

This is literally the textbook definition of posturing.

VOTE: mhsmith

I'll try and spend some time productively digging into zef/gamma/vax and figure out where my vote should go. Sorry for being relatively useless the past few days.

What the fuck, meant to quote this post.

*grabs popcorn*

[Postie]

Ummm Gamma is our conduit to get information to you without announcing it to scum. He'll be dead soon enough in most scenarios.

Not if he's scum and even if he's town there's no point shooting him with how useless he's being when there are plenty of other targets.

Kuroi, do you want to talk about this?

The answer to this question should be no. We should not be talking about this.

[mhsmith0]

The answer to this question should be no. We should not be talking about this.

Unless he's softing a guilty in which case he should just do it.

[Postie]

If he were softing a guilty you'd think he'd be trying to get Jae lynched. You can stop fishing for info now.

[mhsmith0]

On Day 2, RachMarie Boring passed into Valinor.
On Night 2, LycanFire was killed. He was Tito, representing the nation of Yugoslavia, Town Delayed Death 1-Shot Informing Redirector.

Did anyone claim redirected?

~~Math

Not to my knowledge. I'm not really sure why he'd redirect there though, given that he seemed an unlikely scum kill, and a one shot like that is probably best saved for later.

[mhsmith0]

If he were softing a guilty you'd think he'd be trying to get Jae lynched. You can stop fishing for info now.

He was clearly softing *something* in a sufficiently obvious manner that there's no way scum missed it.