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[JaeReed]

Welcome shannon to the dead thread!

[mhsmith0]

Well thank you.

My townblock was solid but sigh.

Impoetic did nothing...how could that be town...

Sometimes people are just lazy or struggly. I'd have a more substantive comment but that woudl require reading the thread and lol that

[shannon]

Well, this was interesting. All my votes are townies who were lying about what their PR claim was, with the exception of LUV. All my town reads at endgame are scum.

[JaeReed]

I mean.... gerryoat didn't lie about his claim. He just didn't prematurely claim =P

[mhsmith0]

shooting shannon was either game-winning or game-losing for the scum team, and I'm really curious which it ends up being

[shannon]

I mean.... gerryoat didn't lie about his claim. He just didn't prematurely claim =P

Yeah, that was a bad move. Though he probably woulda died anyway the way this is going

[JaeReed]

Oh I'm leaning towards thinking town would have setup specced their way into lynching him anyways. Or Titus then him.

[shannon]

titus has been obvi-town since her UB was confirmed at least
drone seemed obvi-town but with obvi-town titus neighbor, I was having a hard time reconciling that

TTTT didn't seem obvi-town at all

LUV, definitely not

Transcend was not obv town to me because he seemed to be lying about his claim. He was lying, but in a good way. I need to work on that.

LUV was town to me, though I did have small doubts about that given his decision to give a result on me at that point in the game.

Titus oscillated between town and scum for me. Her claim and subsequent spec that LUV's role didn't mesh well with hers was a big reason for LUV's death. Then her 'no result' and subsequent pinning of me + impoetic as a team did nothing to endear her to me. Also, I thought she was lying about being backup. Basically I couldn't tell her claims from scum claims (since if scum were faking UB they'd probably do what she did), and I said as much in the thread.

SSBM was a strong town read, until she started pushing really hard on Titus. Then I got to feeling like one of the two of them was scum, and well, at least I wasn't the one to hammer Titus.

I eventually picked up on Gerry's point about there being a strongman in the game... unfortunately, I took that as him as scum rolefishing for Titus' role, instead of him doing a bit more Doctory thinking. By the time I'd hammered him and he'd flipped doc, it was too late.

I don't think anyone in the game is going to have scum read Sesq, so I'm not feeling too bad about that one.

TTTT I had no idea about, really.

All in all, I think I probably have an OK 'bullshit claim' and 'suspicious behaviour' radar, but I need to work on interpreting those things better and not coming up with elaborate WIFOM schemes. It probably reflects my scum play, where I come up with the most elaborate WIFOM things I can.

I feel like if there's an award for Worst Townie I probably earned it this game, but there's still time for someone to give Sesq the deciding vote in LYLO, so who knows!

[shannon]

Uh no my point is that it's one less likely mislynch for scum to have.

Let's review - 50% of the town have some form of claim that makes a lynch less likely. 40% of them are very solid claims (2shot follow, JOAT, Doctor, Backup) and one is a bit less so but still better than nothing.

Scum need 4 lynches for a perfect win, assuming they get a kill each night and no scum die. So they can win on Day4.

There's 6 (really 5) people they can realistically mislynch. If even 3 of those VT players are decent players, the game is basically won for town - end of discussion.

Dumb.

When you put it like that, it's amazing that we:

Had JOAT claim early and get NKed
Lynched the 2 shot follower for a 'fake claim'
Didn't believe the Backup and lynched her
Lynched the Doc without a claim

Reading this thread I see a lot of frustration with me this game. Once it's over, if anyone has specific feedback that they're not comfortable leaving here please PM me.

[gerryoat]

Well, this was interesting. All my votes are townies who were lying about what their PR claim was, with the exception of LUV. All my town reads at endgame are scum.

Uh u kinda yolo lynched me and didn't let me claim. That was your fault.

[JaeReed]

Fairs fair... That was the fault of every townie that decided a last minute flashwagon was a good idea. :p

[drealmerz7]

I've never been part of a flashwagon - nor do I ever want to be

[shannon]

Well, this was interesting. All my votes are townies who were lying about what their PR claim was, with the exception of LUV. All my town reads at endgame are scum.

Uh u kinda yolo lynched me and didn't let me claim. That was your fault.

Worse; until the flip came in I was happy to have scraped in just before the mod locked the thread.

And yeah, you can't hammer a flash wagon without there being a wagon, I don't know why someone didn't unvote but it's neither here nor there.

[Titus]

Shannon, I phrased you being stupid as a wakeup call to you and an overexpression of my annoyance with you. I've started to figure out wrong versus town on you. Yet, you repeatedly do suboptimal things. When I realize that, you freak out. It's just ugh sometimes.