In Memory

[The DEO]

Correct.

As scum I have limits. However that is my word for it.

~~Math

Drealmerz you claim not redirected right?

[drealmerz7]

certainly not that I'm aware of

not sure how that'd work even since I reached my target?

[Postie]

I wasn't redirected either.

[Creature]

I didn't receive any "you got redirected" message.

[mhsmith0]

Not redirected

Deo (presumably)
Postie
Creature
Drealz
Smith
Jaereed

???
Gamma
Creeps
Zef
Kuroi
Vax
Klingon

[RadiantCowbells]

Officially seeking replacement for Creeps20.

[RadiantCowbells]

Creeps20 is replaced by Frozen Angel. Please welcome her!

[RadiantCowbells]

In Memory

Votecount 3.90:

Vaxkiller (3): JaeReed, Gamma Emerald
ɀefiend (2): The DEO, Creature
KuroiXHF (2): Frozen Angel, drealmerz7
The DEO (1): Klingoncelt
Creature (1): KuroiXHF
Gamma Emerald (1): Vaxkiller
Mhsmith0 (1): ɀefiend
Frozen Angel (0):
drealmersz7 (0):
Postie (0):
JaeReed (0):
Klingoncelt (0):

Not Voting: Postie, Mhsmith0

With 12 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

The day will end in (expired on 2017-01-19 21:00:00).

[JaeReed]

FA!!! <3 Yusss

[Frozen Angel]

UNVOTE:

Before anything I love to stay lovely and calm in mafia games. If I fail in that I will leave mafia games forever - so please help me with that (thats not related to game itself you are free to interact and form your reads on my slot - but when discussions get heated I will just move away)

Just had to tell that before anything else <3

I read nothing so far - will skim this game later today

[Frozen Angel]

FA!!! <3 Yusss

<3 JAE

[Frozen Angel]

I just had to check if the last player claimed it or not

Before we start I am hated okay? So be very careful.

I won't leave a vote as I see no reason for it.

He did apparently

He shouldn't

[JaeReed]

Why not?

I thought Negative Utility was good to claim?

[JaeReed]

^ If it's bad to answer now tell me after the game?

[Frozen Angel]

Can someone make a tldr list of events and stuff?

@Jae those NU stuff are the ones that can mess with potential TPR's. hated is not one of them. I don't wanna expand this but I would treat this differently.

[JaeReed]

Alright.

TL;DR of my understanding of events:

In RVS Shadow_Step makes a joke about policy lynching Titus, who is The DEO (hydra)
Titus tunnels Shadow_Step from that, and he reacts aggressively, which I think is where the main support for his wagon came about due to "bad reaction" or something? I did a (probably bad) VCA fairly recently 2144 of D1.
Anyway, RachMarie calls out Postie for whiteknighting S_S and she got a wagon for a bit, and was one of the main reasons on D2 for RM lynch I think.
Gamma Emerald was revealed to be a Double Voter.
Postie was revealed to be Voteless.
KTS replaced Shadow_Step and the wagon had died down a bit but then picked up again and I'm not entirely sure why.
KTS was lynched and Klingoncelt claimed to have done something called "bubble" him which means she has a PT with him now, and I am pretty sure she is telling the truth there due to the posts she claimed was from him and his opinions feel like KTS to me.

Night 1 was skipped due to unknown mechanics. People speculate it was Creature because he was revealed as "the sun" when the game started and the flavour for day continuing was that the sun came back up or something.
Day 2 it was revealed The DEO, RachMarie, and Gamma Emerald were in a neighbourhood together during the push on RachMarie.
Gamma Emerald was revealed to be odd day double voter, even day voteless. Postie still voteless.
RachMarie claimed Loved and believed her wagon was for being V/LA then replaced out. boring came in and said she was trying to make associations because she thought her slot would be lynched without any real information coming from it.
After that a few of us hard pushed on Lycanfire instead.
It got outed that the other head of The DEO hydra was MathBlade, and Lycanfire had said something about pants in the thread beforehand without knowing that, which made MathBlade tunnel the slot but Titus head of DEO wanted RachMarie lynch on the logic that scum would have to bus or be outed. (As RachMarie was Loved it would take one extra vote, which meant if both Gamma and Postie were town we couldn't lynch a hypothetical scum!RachMarie/boring without scum bussing.
boring got lynched and flip never came. We got a message about her being taken to Valinor instead.
One kill overnight on N2 was Lycanfire who flipped 1 shot redirector.

D3 I puzzled over choice of kill since he was the next logical lynch and drealmerz7 claimed vig and to have shot him. We don't know what happened to scum kill in that case.
Kuroi made a really cryptic thing to me asking if I wanted to claim anything about last night and I refused to comment on it. Then he made a "you know that I know" comment which smith pointed out in thread and made a big deal asking about and Postie told him to stop.
I have a kind of case on Vedith/Vaxkiller 2100

[JaeReed]

Not sure how useful that is sorry :/ Was rushing a bit because dinner is ready

[Frozen Angel]

no that's great! thanks

[Frozen Angel]

You're scum because you tried to policy lynch me and claim sarcasm afterward but only did so after you were wagoned.
Then you just beg for someone else to lynch instead of yourself and aren't hunting.
It is like you aren't even trying.
The real question isn't why you are scum. It is how could you ever be town?

Whenever you asked this question - please - understand that something is wrong with yourself!

[Frozen Angel]

stop one page 10

{No one}
{Kuroi}
{Clemency, drealmerz7, Creature, Deo}
{Everyone else}
{Deimos27, Gamma}
{KC, Vedith}

I'm worried about postie being voteless but I can't sort her >.> seems like a role designed to lurk in shadows and strike in end game

[Frozen Angel]

LOL

WKing can happen to scum or town for that matter Deo

My first game on site I was WKed so hard by Metabot that I became unlynchable. And I was the Doc and should have been NKed on N1. Literally he defended me so hard that no one even tried seriously to lynch me and then in 3 player LYLO, I chose him over the one who was town. So yeah I am VERY suspicious of WKing.

SS has 5 votes on him already, I am not as sure on him as I am on Postie.

Though atm sure is relative since it is still very early in the game.

One thing though, I definite feel good about Gamma being town because like I said generally speaking, double voters are generally town, also feel good about dude who claimed hated, because the two balance out fairly well in games.

This is the apealy rach in Cowboy bebop not the town her in gitsou - Imo

[Frozen Angel]

Plus FB was a part of reviewing this setup so expect hell.

I worked with both a lot. reviewed / commoded /backed up / spectated and they did the same (bot fire and RC)

Fire games are usually routin with a SC2 type open setup. He believes the game elements should either all be weak or all powerful and believe the balance must be balance in power.

RC is exactly opposite. His setups must make sense factional wise and team powers must be balanced. He likes to play with meta but he wont risk in balance. He definitely likes to include roles from the games he played before and he likes to change meta - put a surprise or two.

[Frozen Angel]

SS, you want to talk reads rather than woe is me, I will listen. I want to know your third.

It's not Postie, demos, Grandma, or Creeps.

Your reads are awful holy crap ...

[Frozen Angel]

Is this game bastard?

[Frozen Angel]

@Titus what about KC early game was towny?