In Memory

[Vaxkiller]

and he was town in Ttyll and I saw the same sort of "issues" with him, so

Oh yeah, in that game I seem to recall you being scum

[Vaxkiller]

Here is what I had on the PT's for wahtever good it is.

Gamma/Postie PT
Gamma/DEO PT

Postie seems suspicious of Gamma. Posts 1834 2103 2109 2123

DEO trusts gamma and is trying to pass information to postie through him -Posts 2126 2127

Is the information not arriving? Because postie seems to be indicating that gamma is not being helpful at all. @Postie is gamma not answering specific questions, is he just being silent or what? Some context would be great.

Gamma are you not talking with postie because you think he is scum? Reading through your iso I see that you pushed him early on in post 159, but then defended him in 435, so I'm not sure what your current thoughts on postie are at the moment, because those are quite old. You seem to think DEO is town in this post here 1963

Postie seems to trust DEO post 2134 but is slightly paranoid of him in an earlier post 1950.
Deo seems to trust postie in posts 1345 and 2090 and is requesting in this thread to talk privately through the PT's - see post 1826


So what the fuck does all this shit mean?

I keep running all these scenarios through my head:

town!postie scum!gamma town!DEO The gamma scum scenario is the most likely. Gamma seems to be getting along with DEO but not postie. I can't find any of gammas thoughts on postie, only postie thoughts on gamma. This appears to be the breakdown in communication. I am biased however, I think my outside opinion (of this topic) of gamma is leaking in.
town!postie town!gamma scum!DEO This is possible, DEO seems to really want to get information to postie, but postie doesn't trust gamma. This could be town or scum motivated tho
scum!postie town!gamma town!DEO I'm town reading postie and this (while possible) seems highly unlikely.
scum!postie scum!gamma town!DEO Very unlikely. Postie is suspicious about gamma not being cooperative in chat.
town!postie scum!gamma scum!DEO Possible, but unlikely.

scum!postie scum!gamma scum!DEO

I can't conceive this possibility.
town!postie town!gamma town!DEO Maybe.

[Frozen Angel]

but it's been nothing horribly glaring

and he was town in Ttyll and I saw the same sort of "issues" with him, so

*shrug*

I need more SRs

kuroi, deo...?

gamma is starting to look good I guess

smith read will grow

Jae has a townread on Kuroi - talk about that

so many players expressed townread on deo talk about that

what about gamma started to look good and when? what about him was bad?

what is your read on smith?

anyway

regarding the setup question. hated means hated. but its disabled in lylo so they can't insta hammer me ever - one town must be voting me

postie has NO Vote which is just a dead wight for town. She can't live till lylo cause if she is town thats a town loss (assuming thats permanant)

and gama who has no vote even dates and 2 votes odd days. I need to see if another night will skip or not to massure that role effect

anyway a loved scum is already dead.

The other two can be town together setup wise, one might be scum or both might be scum. I don't know the rest of setup and its to early to deduce such things anyway. and I'm conftown to me so I'm not sure what are you trying to ask me when you include me in your question :/

[Gamma Emerald]

What are the claims so far
I'm missing so much

[drealmerz7]

and he was town in Ttyll and I saw the same sort of "issues" with him, so

Oh yeah, in that game I seem to recall you being scum

yes? I'm just saying I see your play being quite similar here to there, some perspectives that just don't add up and seem like you're trying too hard to see something that isn't there, and you were town, sooo, the pings are minimal here because of the experience from Ttyll, if that makes it clearer

[drealmerz7]

What are the claims so far
I'm missing so much

OOO OOOO I HAVE ONE!!!

I KILLED LYCANFIRE

ko work time

[The DEO]

@2651 yes I know what we are telling Postie got through. All I will say on that.

@Gamma :/

@FA why do you tell KC she needs to be believable? Coming in and tunneling the shit out of Drealmerz has me paranoid when you say you're the only one who discovered the problem when my tinfoil was literally based on that delayed death issue.

~~Math

[Postie]

@2651 yes I know what we are telling Postie got through. All I will say on that.

Your way of "confirming" the message got through doesn't actually eliminate the possibility the message was tampered with and said something completely different by the time it got to me. I don't think it was because I see no reason for scum to risk changing anything it at this point, but you should have no confidence that important details in messages will reach me in the future.
And I still want to know why you think Gamma's town.

[Frozen Angel]

@FA why do you tell KC she needs to be believable? Coming in and tunneling the shit out of Drealmerz has me paranoid when you say you're the only one who discovered the problem when my tinfoil was literally based on that delayed death issue.

I don't understand your sentences. please paraphrase

[Postie]

@Postie is gamma not answering specific questions, is he just being silent or what? Some context would be great.

He's answering all my questions; he's just answering them in the vaguest way he possibly can. I can't even begin to comprehend how a towny could answer my questions in the way he's been answering them unless they straight-up weren't paying any attention the game. And I'm not ruling that out as a possibility, since he said he was demotivated, but if that's the case then I don't understand why he wouldn't just replace out.
I'm going to start writing up a paraphrased version of everything in our hood. I'll keep things as close to what was originally said as I can without breaking any rules.

[Postie]

On second thought that may have to wait until Gamma clears up something he said in the PT.

[The DEO]

stop dodging this thread postie

You should answer ASAP to make it look beliveable

Why are you saying someone should make something look believable?

That and you agreeing with me on Drealmerz push has me creeped out. I am not used to people agreeing.

~~Math

[The DEO]

So one thing is pretty clear to me one of FA and Drealmerz is probably scum and if FA is then Postie is.

~~Math

[The DEO]

And it was Postie not KC sleep deprivation sorry no wonder it didn't make sense.

~~Math

[The DEO]

I also don't like how FA tried to take credit for the delayed stealth shit as if it was her idea.

~~Math

[The DEO]

Death* wow autocorrect you suck.

[Postie]

So one thing is pretty clear to me one of FA and Drealmerz is probably scum and if FA is then Postie is.

~~Math

Both FA and dreal are town and interpreting the "look believable" comment as a scumslip makes very little sense.

[Frozen Angel]

stop dodging this thread postie

You should answer ASAP to make it look beliveable

Why are you saying someone should make something look believable?

That and you agreeing with me on Drealmerz push has me creeped out. I am not used to people agreeing.

~~Math

I said that to postie to arouse her to make her answer to my questions as fast as possible to not make up shit (was trying to imply I have a guilty on her)

and I didn't agree with you pushing drealmz. I atually stated that I'm not a part of your tunnely fan fiction - I'm doing my own evaluations on that slot and I actually think their town now

and I really couldn't care less about anyone being worried about my slot in a mafia game lol This is the best game in like 50 games of mafia I had.

[Frozen Angel]

Your tunnels and slip huntings suck math!

[Frozen Angel]

I also don't like how FA tried to take credit for the delayed stealth shit as if it was her idea.

~~Math

and no one else evaluated this before me did they?

you were just pulling up a bunch of crap theories and the last proposed idea was "strongman Vig" like it could make a delayed death stop!

I will take my credit from what I discovered after replacing in! what are you going to do about it?

[KuroiXHF]

ok so day 2 reads :

{DEO}
{Creature}
{JaeReed, Klingoncelt}
{Gamma, Postie}
{Mhsmith0, Boring, Vaxkiller, ɀefiend}
{KuroiXHF, drealmersz7}

Worst state for a game tbh but yeah

And switched upside down.

Gamma's birthday and V/LA makes me go to someone who deserves it about as much.

VOTE: Drealmerz

[Postie]

Kuroi if you're voting dreal then please explain why scum would claim they'd vig'd the person they'd nightkilled, and why scum would ever kill Lycan of all people.

[The DEO]

I also don't like how FA tried to take credit for the delayed stealth shit as if it was her idea.

~~Math

and no one else evaluated this before me did they?

you were just pulling up a bunch of crap theories and the last proposed idea was "strongman Vig" like it could make a delayed death stop!

I will take my credit from what I discovered after replacing in! what are you going to do about it?

I was evaluating it by asking about redirection and posting ideas. Saying I wasn't evaluating is garbage.

[The DEO]

So one thing is pretty clear to me one of FA and Drealmerz is probably scum and if FA is then Postie is.

~~Math

Both FA and dreal are town and interpreting the "look believable" comment as a scumslip makes very little sense.

I don't think Town has to "look believable".

Raise your hands if you think that is the case because Town cares about lynching scum.

~~Math

[The DEO]

Kuroi if you're voting dreal then please explain why scum would claim they'd vig'd the person they'd nightkilled, and why scum would ever kill Lycan of all people.

Titus has the vote today based on us talking or I would be voting Drealmerz or FA.

~~Math