Memories: Loss Neighbourhood

[mhsmith0]

so, where i was going w the flavor thing (and I would prefer this be kept under wraps), is that it SEEMS like town roles are people/characters who are relatively unhappy/unfulfilled, which SEEMS to tie into the flavor theme. OTOH I think people did submit flavor stuff pregame and RC said it was decopuled from alignment so this may just be random noise on my end

also, do you have any reason to think that your "wrapping up in chains" bit was responsible for lycan not being able to be in thread on D3?

[drealmerz7]

I really don't think so. The kill ability I used had no modifications to it. I even made a comment (humorously) in thread about maybe RC was so impressed by the flavor I submitted for the kill they forbade lycan from speaking in the thread (because he's still at the bottom of the lake!!!) - but that doesn't fit with the described ability at all and would be totally bastard imo if a mod decided to switch a mechanic like that. I just don't see it happening at all.

PLUS all of those questions have been asked in-thread about the kill and his ability to speak and all that
I would consider it mod lying at this point if my kill is responsible for him not speaking

the suggestion that has been made in-thread that I am most considering is that maybe my kill didn't kill him, or at least wasn't fully responsible for his death somehow, but I can't really figure out how that'd be

[drealmerz7]

what makes the most sense seems the most simple to me

he was vanilla-ized - mod gave non-vanilla flip and that has been answered that that's how he'd do it if that is what happened

[drealmerz7]

well you can read into my character either way you want! haha

was he unfufilled because of his tragic early death?

or was h e fulfilled because he had some love and a successful career?

you could dig into his biography too, just because there's no specific mention of it in the PM doesn't mean he didn't have his torments (arguably even suicidal because of how he went about things - a bit craaazed at the state of world or whatever)

[drealmerz7]

if you want to read into flavor more, look out for creature because he might burn us all in the end!

[mhsmith0]

wrt the kill stuff, i figured as much but it didn't hurt to ask again (also i haven't been reading the most carefully of late, probably b/c I've been a bit busy)

vanilla-izing makes a fair amount of sense to me, tbh. at least it wasn't an especiall yuseful role that got hit that way.

[drealmerz7]

my figuring at this point is that a scum probably has a vanilla-ize ability and knew I was going to kill lycan or also killed lycan with it or somesuch. Maybe even intending to implicate me.

Which is why I feel so suspicious about The DEO and FA now, because I really feel like it's likely that was their plan and it didn't "take" as well as they hoped and they're just trying to push suspicion on me to get me lynched (also being scums fearing another killer out there, if they fear my reads / who I might shoot.)

[mhsmith0]

if you want to read into flavor more, look out for creature because he might burn us all in the end!

actually the idea did occur
also his announcement was orange, so that pinged me a bit too tbh *shrugs*
it's mainly kinda weak shit, but I feel like I've been more confident with town reads than scum reads, and now knowing boring alignment kinda fucks with me a fair amount too

[mhsmith0]

^not knowing

[drealmerz7]

maybe I'm just OMGUSing and paranoid, I dunno

but I don't have strong scumspects much either, so, they definitely have my attention now

[mhsmith0]

Like, I don't want to lynch inside
DEO/Postie/Jaereed/Creature/FA/Klingon/you

but nothing really jumps out at me about the rest

[drealmerz7]

if you want to read into flavor more, look out for creature because he might burn us all in the end!

actually the idea did occur
also his announcement was orange, so that pinged me a bit too tbh *shrugs*
it's mainly kinda weak shit, but I feel like I've been more confident with town reads than scum reads, and now knowing boring alignment kinda fucks with me a fair amount too

yeah, the idea is certainly in the head for me too, and the orange of course struck

I was like "that's not an IC reveal that's a neutral reveal!" was the gut (with the notice in the rules about that wild-card slot that could be group or individual aligned.)

I did make some thoughts early in game about all of that too, that weren't received too well.

[drealmerz7]

and absolutely the non-flip is really fucking with me and annoying me quite a bit

postie has pinged me a bit more and more here and there, GE needs to get in the game too that is a bit of a problem

ugh, fucking kuroi I even keep forgetting is in the game, he should be lynched actually is probablyjust lurking scum and totally getting away with it

he's had so much opportunity to contribute and doesn't do anything

[mhsmith0]

there have been a few points where postie has actually town-pinged me, and I remember the last game I played with her (open 642, a travesty of a game in so many ways), she was hydra'd with RC (our mod) and a bunch of her posts were like exactly what I was thinking, often enough that it just fit for me that she'd be town.

And I feel the same about her here. If there are particular posts that you think are troubling, I'll look at them, but I feel pretty solidly about her being town rn.

[drealmerz7]

what has been jumping out to me actually has been the pushing on vax lynch. I feel like he's town because of my recent experience with him in Ttyll. I can see what is being seen as suspect in him but that is how he was in Ttyll too, just poor views, trying too hard to see scum in people and making poor cases and coming off scummy for it.

JR gives me some weird pings on occasion but I like his contributions and definitely don't want to lynch him today.

definitely no interest in you (except for you to participate more but I fully believe you when you say you just haven't been fully with it and you'll get to it, I have no worries there - the readon you will develop am sure)

so yeah, today I probably okay lynching kuroi, zefiend, FA, The DEO

[drealmerz7]

I was actually about to ask you about your experience with postie, that's great, thanks

[drealmerz7]

I just saw potential for it being a gradeA scum-game too and that makes me wary when those thoughts cross, it's not so much pings as an awareness that that is what I could be seeing

[mhsmith0]

can you remind me why not gamma or vax?

I've heard good things about Postie's scum game, though I haven't seen it live. In particular I recall RC talking about a game where she beat him (though i also recall I think from the summer a game where RC with his alt where he just totally obliterated her)

[mhsmith0]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=66342
this was it, Severa was the RC alt

postie iso
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p7902067
not blown away by the first 20 or so posts, certainly not awful but nothing close to clear town

RC iso
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
decently obvtown from the very first few posts, not that it really matters here

[drealmerz7]

well gamma I just think needs to give more at this point before judging so much, I think he could very likely be scum, but he's not vote-worthy at this point in the game, imo

Vax, I have a post in-game somewhere recently where I explain that read I think, but I'll try to go over it again.

I've played 1 game with him otherwise (I think? maybe there was another? shit...well the only memorable one!), and he was town there and I was scum and so I knew he was town and so through the whole game I was able to see his town game clearly. He made a lot of cases that look exactly the same sort of thing he's doing here. I don't know how to exactly articulate those qualities perfectly, a sort of mediocre ability where he tries a little hard to seem like he's making a good strong case, but it is really just a poor case based on a poor view of the game and it's getting scum-read because it's weak-ass pushes that seem like he's "trying to come up with something to paint that player scum" or somesuch. In Ttyll I could tell that if I were town I would have totally scum-read a lot of what he was pushing pretty hard, but now here with that perspective from there, I'm seeing the same thing here, I think, pretty sure, or at least I'm wanting to give it more time to grow the read on that, not comfy with the lynch today at all.

[drealmerz7]

sort of feeling we should out the hood at this point maybe?

[mhsmith0]

outing hood is fine by me fwiw

wrt vax, do you have any of his scum gmaes on record? Or much experience w vedith as either alignment?

[drealmerz7]

I'd have to check if vax was scum in any of my previous games because I'm not sure of all the playerlists

he could have been in GIF's Nexus is a New Normal or maybe something else I am forgetting? I don't think so though

[drealmerz7]

oh and vedith, I have very limited exposure to him
he was in Ttyll and that is most experience I have with him by far

he was town and if I'd been town I'd have scumread him hard, and pushed him as scum early in the game before ppl were like "that's just vedith" a bit

[drealmerz7]

fucking hell...seriously!?

*sigh*