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Post Post #2850 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:20 pm

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I just asked him about outting our hood and he said it was fine so I did, btw

I'd initially been weirded out quite a bit in the hood because it was just deimos and I and he was not saying hardly anything

I've also had thoughts that perhaps there is another party who hasn't said any words in the hood, but that was earlier before I knew there were other hoods and was finding it odd that there was a 2p hood at all - but still don't discount the possibility that someone has been silent the hwole time, simply because of there being no list about who is in the hood

which is why I asked about the other hoods
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Post Post #2851 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:20 pm

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In post 2843, mhsmith0 wrote:PS Out of curiosity, have you EVER gotten a useful answer from "are you scum"?
Not that I can remember, but it never hurts to ask. :giggle:
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Post Post #2852 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:22 pm

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In post 2849, drealmerz7 wrote:postie, and others, tell me more about smith as you can
Don't have much experience with him. All I can say is that he usually obvtowns extremely quickly and the fact he isn't doing that here I'm finding very worrying.
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Post Post #2853 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:22 pm

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In post 2851, Postie wrote:
In post 2843, mhsmith0 wrote:PS Out of curiosity, have you EVER gotten a useful answer from "are you scum"?
Not that I can remember, but it never hurts to ask. :giggle:
If I didn't have an overall townread on you I'd probably be suspicious; the last time I was asked that was in Rio by Phighter (who was scum). Super easy question for scum to ask to look busy.
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Post Post #2854 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:23 pm

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and he's always town when he obvtowns?
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Post Post #2855 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:31 pm

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In post 2853, mhsmith0 wrote:If I didn't have an overall townread on you I'd probably be suspicious; the last time I was asked that was in Rio by Phighter (who was scum). Super easy question for scum to ask to look busy.
Then... why bring it up at all? For the record I have asked this question several times as town before, and pulling tells out of a tiny sample size of games (in this case, 1) is still as terrible of an idea as it was when Titus did it on day 1.
In post 2854, drealmerz7 wrote:and he's always town when he obvtowns?
I've only seen his town game, unfortunately. And I mean obvtown in the sense of actual completely obvious town, not just "very towny-looking". I might have to metadive him to see if town!smith is capable of producing the kind-of coasty disengaged stuff he's been posting here (inb4 pointless zefiend rant).
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Post Post #2856 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:38 pm

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btw, is there some kind of theme attached to the other hoods?
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Post Post #2857 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:38 pm

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In post 2856, mhsmith0 wrote:btw, is there some kind of theme attached to the other hoods?
I take it there's one attached to yours.
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Post Post #2858 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:39 pm

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Post Post #2859 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:01 pm

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In post 2854, drealmerz7 wrote:and he's always town when he obvtowns?
Yes, when he obvtowns he's always town. He lacks emotional depth as scum, most notably, to the point where he himself even admits it.

@Postie http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p7982435 this is a game he replaced in to a scum slot with Raskolnikov.
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Post Post #2860 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:07 pm

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that definitely doesn't give me good feels :\
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Post Post #2861 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:08 pm

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What's your read on smith then, Jae?
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Post Post #2862 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:09 pm

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i'd also, ftr, note that I'm entirely capable of churning out fake content that looks surface-level good as scum (if anything, that game was lazier than my usual scum games); my laziness in that game was the sort of thing you had to think about to notice, as opposed to my openly being lazy and inactive. I think that, other than micro 610 (which happened in the middle of a lengthy losing streak where I was basically shutting myself down), you'd be hard-pressed to find a scum gmae where I was as openly blah as I've probably been this game, though you're free to look at see if you can disagree
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Post Post #2863 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:10 pm

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I'd at least like him to get fully with it and make more comprehensive comments before jumping down his throat
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Post Post #2864 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:18 pm

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In post 2861, Postie wrote:What's your read on smith then, Jae?
In a word, complicated. The lack of emotional depth has me jumpy as fuck but I would not lynch him currently. There's a good possibility with what drealmerz has said that he is just disengaged completely and not trying to avoid anything.
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Post Post #2865 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:19 pm

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In post 2860, drealmerz7 wrote:that definitely doesn't give me good feels :\
Keep in mind that doesn't necessarily mean he always obvtowns when he's town, just that when he DOES obvtown he's town. I'm sure he's had bad games as town before like we all have.
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Post Post #2866 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:20 pm

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Would you say he'd make a good vig target?
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Post Post #2867 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:24 pm

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In post 2864, JaeReed wrote:In a word, complicated. The lack of emotional depth has me jumpy as fuck but I would not lynch him currently. There's a good possibility with what drealmerz has said that he is just disengaged completely and not trying to avoid anything.
I basically have been, fwiw. some of it was rl, some of it was simply multi-tabling, the latter of which isn't quite as much of a problem as it was not long ago. I've also, for whatever reason, tended to either REALLY get into games or REALLY not get into games. You can probably figure that out if you dig into my recent meta, if you're really curious.
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Post Post #2868 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:26 pm

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In post 2866, Postie wrote:Would you say he'd make a good vig target?
No.
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Post Post #2869 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:29 pm

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Klingoncelt hasn't been doing much either. :/
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Post Post #2870 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:32 pm

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forgot KC was in the game almost
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Post Post #2871 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:37 pm

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fwiw the people not in my nulltown to outright town reads currently are vax/gamma/zef/kuroi, still not really sure which of them I want dead (though as long as boring was scum, and the other two are in there, I'm not super worried)

my light town read on klingon is I think mainly based on the sequence starting
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p8725882
some of that is simply the notion that scum probably wouldn't stick their neck out with that kind of read about "country" actually being "hood", although if somehow kuroi flipped scum a "just fake derp clear yourself" conversation in scum chat I guess wouldn't be impossible (also if KC does fake derp as scum that might weaken it, if people who know her have thoughts on that)
and yes I'm aware of how super weak that kind of read is, but I don't know that I have much better to read her on
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Post Post #2872 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:48 pm

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Hmmn, your reads are quite similar to mine. I'm like 95% sure Kuroi's town based on the slip I noticed though.
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Post Post #2873 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:49 pm

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Post Post #2874 (ISO) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:52 pm

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I think my issue with smith here is just I know in the game I saw him in as scum he declared that town didn't make him do anything so he was happy to coast, basically... and at the very least if he's scum here I don't want to make it easy on him >.< It might be baseless in the end.

I do believe he could do better as either alignment, and he'd probably at least try and churn out more content than he was doing considering he got called out a few times.
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