In Memory

[drealmerz7]

titus/MB, part of playing mafia is letting things play

if I have a case on you I want to push, you'll fucking know it, right? you don't have to keep asking "what's your case what's your case?!?!"

it's annoying

if you can't follow why I think you're scum you need to get more with it

[The DEO]

@deo: yeah that's fine. I'm just skeptical he actually did use his redirect in that situation.

Mhsmith pings me for stuff like this because he kept trying to dissuade me from his Lycanfire's redirect being used. It makes me think he had inside knowledge with you that you were. It gave me a creepy he knows something vibe. Combined with that and you claiming vig it gives me weird "feels".

That is an example Drealmerz.

~~Math

[drealmerz7]

don't condescend me

I know how the fuck to play mafia

jsut because I'm not doing it AT YOUR DEMAND, doesn't mean you can talk down to me

go the fuck away

[drealmerz7]

you have a serious issue with people SRing you, eh ?

does anyone know if that is AI for either of them?

[JaeReed]

Math isn't trying to be condescending, they're trying to sort you, I think. To do that they want to see your process with your scumread on them because it's easier to judge if someone is genuine with scumreads on your own slot than others.

[The DEO]

titus/MB, part of playing mafia is letting things play

if I have a case on you I want to push, you'll fucking know it, right? you don't have to keep asking "what's your case what's your case?!?!"

it's annoying

if you can't follow why I think you're scum you need to get more with it

If you can't articulate why then I will scumread you for it. Imagine if I went "RadiantCowbells is scum!!!!!" and did not cite a single post. They did nothing to stop the mislynch. But yet I have not voted RadiantCowbells.

You need a reason. Otherwise you have a desire not a scumread and then I have to hunt that desire.

~~Math

[JaeReed]

They're trying to communicate with you what they want in order to sort you.

[drealmerz7]

FUCK OFF WITH THAT SCUMSHIT

"if you can't do it I will scumread you for it" THAT IS FUCKING SCUM RIGHT THERE

I CAN FUCKING DO IT, I'M JUST NOT DOING IT AT YOUR DEMAND, GET IT!?!?!??!?!?!

I've DONE it, fuck!!!!

if you can't follow, that is YOUR PROBLEM

[drealmerz7]

that's not what I've done, DEO

way to misrep

[The DEO]

FUCK OFF WITH THAT SCUMSHIT

"if you can't do it I will scumread you for it" THAT IS FUCKING SCUM RIGHT THERE

I CAN FUCKING DO IT, I'M JUST NOT DOING IT AT YOUR DEMAND, GET IT!?!?!??!?!?!

I've DONE it, fuck!!!!

if you can't follow, that is YOUR PROBLEM

I don't see where you have done it.

And it is town's problem because I am Town and want to sort you and Town should want to know if I am scum.

So if all you are doing is spamming I am scum every three posts then yes we have a problem because there is no discussion. No way for people to agree with you.

I am horrible at explaining why I believe things but I have learned what not to do well. This is one thing I have learned. Passion with reason is good. Reasons without conviction or conviction without reasons is bad.

~~Math

[drealmerz7]

I'm not spamming you're scum every 3 posts

QUIT FUCKING MISREPPING ME, SCUM

[JaeReed]

you have a serious issue with people SRing you, eh ?

does anyone know if that is AI for either of them?

MathBlade is a logical player. They require you to present your logic in order to read you.

If there's something I can do to mediate I'll do it because I think you're both town here, but I feel like I need a bit more from you on what you need me to explain. I do not believe MathBlade's problem here is an issue with people scumreading them, but rather an issue with not understanding your logical processes currently.

[drealmerz7]

and that's not condescension, JR?

that shit does NOT make me want to engage them

"I know better and I'm going to teach you a lesson" it's fucking arrogant bullshit that I don't need

[JaeReed]

@deo: yeah that's fine. I'm just skeptical he actually did use his redirect in that situation.

Mhsmith pings me for stuff like this because he kept trying to dissuade me from his Lycanfire's redirect being used. It makes me think he had inside knowledge with you that you were. It gave me a creepy he knows something vibe. Combined with that and you claiming vig it gives me weird "feels".

That is an example Drealmerz.

~~Math

Is it possible that this just stems from smith and drealmerz being in a hood together and therefore communicating there?

[drealmerz7]

and so they are going to whine endlessly until they understand?

they don't know patience? just DEMAND IT NOW AND IF YOU DON'T GIVE IT I'M SCUMREADING YOU

that's SCUMMY

[drealmerz7]

Is it possible that this just stems from smith and drealmerz being in a hood together and therefore communicating there?

and you were able to deduce that yourself without needing it explained to you point by point, why can't TWO HEADS WHO SEEM SORT OF SMART AT LEAST FIGURE IT OUT BETWEEN THEM????

[drealmerz7]

answer, they can, they're just looking for ways to scum-paint

[JaeReed]

and that's not condescension, JR?

that shit does NOT make me want to engage them

"I know better and I'm going to teach you a lesson" it's fucking arrogant bullshit that I don't need

This is not what they are trying to do. I'm sorry that you feel that way.

I believe MathBlade comes from a place of being misunderstood a lot and so is trying to clear up what they feel could be either a communication issue or scum without reasons to push.

[The DEO]

@deo: yeah that's fine. I'm just skeptical he actually did use his redirect in that situation.

Mhsmith pings me for stuff like this because he kept trying to dissuade me from his Lycanfire's redirect being used. It makes me think he had inside knowledge with you that you were. It gave me a creepy he knows something vibe. Combined with that and you claiming vig it gives me weird "feels".

That is an example Drealmerz.

~~Math

Is it possible that this just stems from smith and drealmerz being in a hood together and therefore communicating there?

That is possible but I feel it is unlikely because of the fact that he then wouldn't be just skeptical he would be almost certain. The way mhsmith phrases it makes it seem like there is room for doubt.

~~Math

[The DEO]

and that's not condescension, JR?

that shit does NOT make me want to engage them

"I know better and I'm going to teach you a lesson" it's fucking arrogant bullshit that I don't need

This is not what they are trying to do. I'm sorry that you feel that way.

I believe MathBlade comes from a place of being misunderstood a lot and so is trying to clear up what they feel could be either a communication issue or scum without reasons to push.

Exactly how I feel.

~~Math

[drealmerz7]

I get misunderstood all of the time too

ALL OF THE TIME

and I try really hard to be understood and go over things over and over

and then I'm misunderstood, and I get frustrated, and then someone says to me "why didn't you try harder to be understood"

AND IT MAKES ME GO FUCKING INSANE

[drealmerz7]

because the whole tiem I feel like they're doing everything they can to make it DIFFICULT

[JaeReed]

Is it possible that this just stems from smith and drealmerz being in a hood together and therefore communicating there?

and you were able to deduce that yourself without needing it explained to you point by point, why can't TWO HEADS WHO SEEM SORT OF SMART AT LEAST FIGURE IT OUT BETWEEN THEM????

I can also quite easily read emotional cues where I don't think either head has an easy time of that. It appears to me that Titus is not scumreading you, and it's just MathBlade. I asked that to get MathBlade to talk to me to maybe be able to convince them of my viewpoint on their read.

I understand your frustration right now. I really do, I've been there before to the point that I self voted because I got frustrated that I couldn't communicate effectively with Math. I believe they are probably feeling quite a large amount of frustration over this, too. Maybe take 5 to cool down? You didn't want this to turn toxic, remember? I'll try to figure out the problem in the meantime, yeah?

[drealmerz7]

thanks JR, I just did a quick breathing exercise

The DEO, do you follow my suspicion on you after the D1 flip?

[drealmerz7]

do you remember D1 when I was put off on you calling us thread-masons? there are things through the whole game that have me having a legit. SR on you