In Memory

[JaeReed]

I don't think The DEO will want Gamma on the table, though.

Postie the thing is, you're not incorrect, but of the lot I still think zef is showing the most actual attempts to gamesolve despite that, which means he's more likely to be town.

[Postie]

Postie the thing is, you're not incorrect, but of the lot I still think zef is showing the most actual attempts to gamesolve despite that, which means he's more likely to be town.

Quotes and why you think they're genuine examples of game-solving? All I'm seeing is a relentless tunnel on DEO and refusal to accept any other viewpoints.

[drealmerz7]

we're going to have to get past The DEO's stubborness and work together

who do we think they're okay with? do they even have it straight between themselves?

[drealmerz7]

they don't know where I stand on things, but, at this point I'm not sure where they stand on much either

[JaeReed]

So by my count by Page 20 the votes looked like this:

DEO wagon had Vax having an awful jump on with a "bought your vote" comment in response to Titus saying Math bought drinks. Kuroi had a "we need to consolidate votes" jump on, which then tied it with the Vax wagon. drealmerz jumped on during the back and forth.

The DEO (4): Klingoncelt, Vaxkiller, KuroiXHF, drealmerz7
Vaxkiller (3): JaeReed, Gamma Emerald
ɀefiend (1): Creature
Mhsmith0 (1): ɀefiend
Frozen Angel (1): The DEO

Not Voting: Postie, Mhsmith0, Frozen Angel

With 12 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.



Gonna continue getting an unofficial count up after the latest vote changes.

[ɀefiend]

Funny that, the relentless tunnels of the DEO slot are excused and handwaved due to site clout and feelz, whereas my push, (falsely characterized as a tunnel), is dismissed for the very same reasons.

I've already stated my compromise lynches.

[JaeReed]

Unofficial by my count:

The DEO (3): Klingoncelt, Vaxkiller, KuroiXHF
Vaxkiller (3): JaeReed, Gamma Emerald
Gamma Emerald (2): mhsmith0, drealmerz7
ɀefiend (1): Creature
Mhsmith0 (1): ɀefiend
Frozen Angel (1): The DEO

Not Voting: Postie, Frozen Angel

With 12 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

[mhsmith0]

I don't think The DEO will want Gamma on the table, though.

That does not strike me as especially menaingful. FWIW I recall in FA's game that Mathblade in particular struggled at reading their hood; IIRC they were hard-scum reading Mirhawk (town) and at least for a whlie not particularly suspecting DS (scum A) or Panzer (scum B) very much. And that's not something that I would say is unique to Mathblade either; hoods in general are very difficult to read well (see the recent FakeGod Large as another example of multiple people being outright awful at this). So "gamma looks good in the hood" seems like an especially unimportant reason to be TR'ing him at this point. I don't recall DEO saying why Gamma was obvtown based on on thread stuff and didn't see it in my ISO either, so no real clue what I'm missing there.

[JaeReed]

Postie the thing is, you're not incorrect, but of the lot I still think zef is showing the most actual attempts to gamesolve despite that, which means he's more likely to be town.

Quotes and why you think they're genuine examples of game-solving? All I'm seeing is a relentless tunnel on DEO and refusal to accept any other viewpoints.

Honestly? I don't have the energy after everything else. I don't have a confident enough townread that I feel like defending it. I feel drained from defending my hard TRs today already from each other.

[drealmerz7]

*hug JR*

[JaeReed]

I really would just prefer Vax. There is too much resistance to that lynch and too much of people ignoring my points then asking for them repeatedly. Counterwagon on my hardest townread DEO popped up to it. Now a counterwagon on Gamma the person voting with me on Vax. But people are saying he's town so :/ iunno. I'll hammer or vote on whoever gets up to a leading wagon that I'm not hard townreading at this point.

pedit - thanks drealmz <3 *hugs*

[JaeReed]

I really would just prefer Vax. There is too much resistance to that lynch and too much of people ignoring my points then asking for them repeatedly. Counterwagon on my hardest townread DEO popped up to it. Now a counterwagon on Gamma the person voting with me on Vax. But people are saying he's town so :/ iunno. I'll hammer or vote on whoever gets up to a leading wagon that I'm not hard townreading at this point.

I mean even those points aren't particularly relevant as reasons, actually.
The people asking me to case Vax after I already did so are mostly my townreads + zef I think?
The people doing counterwagon votes outside of my townreads are Klingon and smith only and I think Klingon voted DEO ages ago and hasn't been around much since, so it's really just smith.

[Postie]

Honestly? I don't have the energy after everything else. I don't have a confident enough townread that I feel like defending it. I feel drained from defending my hard TRs today already from each other.

Fair enough. I'm just getting really, really, bad feels from that slot so >.<

*hugs also*

[drealmerz7]

I'm trying to imagine a D3 where I didn't out myself...

[mhsmith0]

FWIW, while I don't especially love vax, he is showing some decent paranoia at 2887 and later, as well as at 2011, and 2651 reads like an actual attempt to think through the game state. The main problem is, I don't especially see who IS scummy here, which either means that scum are playing very well or I've totally fucked something up along the line.

[drealmerz7]

or you're scum

with FA

and...creature!

yep

or KC

yep

*shrug*

that's how fucking WHOTHEFUCKKNOWS this game is though

it's whack

[drealmerz7]

smith is nulltown for me btw

[drealmerz7]

which is saying something because most everyone else is just null>scumlean with not a lot of confidence anywhere

[Postie]

FWIW, while I don't especially love vax, he is showing some decent paranoia at 2887 and later, as well as at 2011, and 2651 reads like an actual attempt to think through the game state.

Those first two don't really read like paranoia to me; looks more like generic discrediting. The wallpost is IIoA.

[Postie]

Actually it's not completely IIoA. There are some decent thoughts at the bottom. I agree that it reads kinda like he's really thinking. Hmmn.

[mhsmith0]

the latter part of 2651 where he talks about bouncing around the scenarios is where it seems like he's trying to think kthrough the gamestate. the paranoia in 2887 and subsequent relates to me. IMO the stuff on you in 2011 seemed fairly paranoid, although it's possible that I'm misreading hedginess I guess.

[Frozen Angel]

postie try voting someone just to prove you can't vote today

[Klingoncelt]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Vaxkiller


KTS Scumreads KuroiXHF and Drealm. These two and Vax are the likely Scumteam.

[JaeReed]

What does KTS say about vax?

[RadiantCowbells]

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