In post 174, James3 wrote:If he were really a role cop, and he really believed that was incompatible with me being a 1-Shot Cop, he would have claimed it immediately. He didn't, ergo he's lying.
You are projecting what you would so in a given scenario as what anyone do in that same scenario.
In post 174, James3 wrote:If he were really a role cop, and he really believed that was incompatible with me being a 1-Shot Cop, he would have claimed it immediately. He didn't, ergo he's lying.
You are projecting what you would do in a given scenario as what anyone would do in that same scenario.
In post 177, James3 wrote:Grey is really trying hard to save his scumbuddy.
Says the guy who Grey is trying to stop from being lynched. Nice job throwing him under the bus with yourself.
He likely believes that my mislynch would implicate you (which it would). I'd guess he prefers for us both to stay alive as long as possible so as to nullify my ability without you being lynched.
In post 180, James3 wrote:
He likely believes that my mislynch would implicate you (which it would). I'd guess he prefers for us both to stay alive as long as possible so as to nullify my ability without you being lynched.
Your "ability" is garbage. You have yet to even say any modifiers, so I take it there are none. Which means your ONE SHOT can be trained, roleblocked or just be useless on a dead townie. It's not even confirmable without you dead. So the role is pointless and I don't think the mod would've overlooked such a role being so unreliable for a PR. It can't even be counted as a PR due to its' limitations.
You will hang today. None of your scum buddies can protect you without themselves being implicated.
Yeah I don't like James OMGUSING everyone that calls him out, when he said he always claims D1 for reactions I expected more but I don't see any reads so far that go deeper than "he thinks im scum"
They both strike me as TvT. Specially, newtown vs newtown. Will look at it more after work, but comm looks new to Mafia based on him thinking his claim there was a good idea, since it doesn't really cc anything. They're both modified cops, although one is a non-consecutive role cop, the other a 1-shot normal cop. They both basically outted themselves without reason. Being a role cop should've told comm to expect things like a scum/town roleblocker, scum/town cop, etc, because there's no point to a role cop over a normal cop otherwise. Usually, town role cops need a reason to search for roles instead of simply guilty/innocent, so I think that should've been common sense to him. Due to that, also having a weak 1-shot cop makes sense and fits balance-wise, especially with the 'time shifted' mechanic in play. I think they're both newtown at this point, and regardless, neither are the correct lynch D1.
However Tywin, the problem that arises from his ability is that it's basically a Sheriff good/evil check of a single person. Unless it is unblockable/can't be messed with in any way, then I doubt that role. It would've made more sense to have me be limited shot and him be non-consecutive balance wise, but since that's not the case I doubt the claim in its' entirety. Because the role itself cannot be proven without his death and his target has 2 chances to die before we even know they're innocent! (3 if you count the lynch possibility).
That just doesn't add up in my head. It sounds too much like an easy scum claim and if anyone thinks logically I believe they can come to the same conclusion. It just DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. I mean I could just shoot in the dark and say Tywin is town. Whether or not that's true, you wouldn't know unless me or him died and even then one cleared townie over a majority chance of him being scum is just too damn high.
The mod also said it isn't a bastard set-up so why would he have a cop that cannot prove himself unless I check him and confirm his role or he or his investigated target dies.
The only argument I can think of is if he somehow manages to find scum with his one-shot then when he dies after he outed his result anyway then we get one confirmed scum. That's a low possibility.
Just... for 1-shot in a game this size, the only claim I could really believe is if it's immune to being messed with/blocked or if it was from a JOAT with multiple 1-shot abilities (which he did not claim).
In post 177, James3 wrote:Grey is really trying hard to save his scumbuddy.
Hi my name is James I really like pre-flip association and saying people are scum without using maxium effort to attempt to get them lynch.
See, I don't believe you truely think you think that your scumreads are scum. If you truely thought that your scumreads were scum, you would push them as hard as you can. You've shown disinterest in doing this and you're being very lazy about pushing your scumreads.
In post 182, Vifam wrote:Yeah I don't like James OMGUSING everyone that calls him out, when he said he always claims D1 for reactions I expected more but I don't see any reads so far that go deeper than "he thinks im scum"
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In post 187, CommKnight wrote:However Tywin, the problem that arises from his ability is that it's basically a Sheriff good/evil check of a single person. Unless it is unblockable/can't be messed with in any way, then I doubt that role. It would've made more sense to have me be limited shot and him be non-consecutive balance wise, but since that's not the case I doubt the claim in its' entirety. Because the role itself cannot be proven without his death and his target has 2 chances to die before we even know they're innocent! (3 if you count the lynch possibility).
That just doesn't add up in my head. It sounds too much like an easy scum claim and if anyone thinks logically I believe they can come to the same conclusion. It just DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. I mean I could just shoot in the dark and say Tywin is town. Whether or not that's true, you wouldn't know unless me or him died and even then one cleared townie over a majority chance of him being scum is just too damn high.
The mod also said it isn't a bastard set-up so why would he have a cop that cannot prove himself unless I check him and confirm his role or he or his investigated target dies.
The only argument I can think of is if he somehow manages to find scum with his one-shot then when he dies after he outed his result anyway then we get one confirmed scum. That's a low possibility.
Just... for 1-shot in a game this size, the only claim I could really believe is if it's immune to being messed with/blocked or if it was from a JOAT with multiple 1-shot abilities (which he did not claim).
Comm why are you rolefishing for a fuller claim from him if you have the ability to check his role yourself?
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In post 197, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
Comm why are you rolefishing for a fuller claim from him if you have the ability to check his role yourself?
1.) That'd be a major waste of my role.
2.) He's already outed himself, if there's more to his role, then he should claim so when he's being called out.
3.) He's scum.