In post 253, CommKnight wrote: In post 234, Tywin Lannister wrote:
Not caught up, but saw this after hitting last page. I'm not voting him? I unvoted right as he ninja'd me with the claim earlier today. Look at the vote count from mod. I unvoted before you did? Have you not read the thread at all?
Tywin, what do you think of the Xanth hydra at the moment? It's obvious they've been missing a lot of posts and are hard-defending a poor claim so early.
Furthermore, do you agree with my analysis of the 1-shot cop balance wise? If anything it should've been my role that was limited shot and his non-consecutive. In your mind does a one-shot cop
*really*
make sense? Whether or not SlySly is scum, his words ring true. I don't believe there to be a second cop in this game. There's many other town PRs to fill before a second cop spot is filled.
Xanth hydra seems to ignore this logic and furthermore isn't really providing much of their own reads or analysis. Aside from saying no cops are being lynched today, they've only been asking other people questions, not really adding anything of import to the game as of yet.
Also to answer another question earlier. Yes, it really does benefit town if James has a modification and outs it. Because then his claim would've been more believable. Right now I'm death-tunneling him and I'll admit that because I know his claim is BS. Right now I'm hard SR'ing the Xanth hydra. Based on gut and their "contribution" so far to the discussion and not really putting James on the fire like they should be. So if James is not lynched today, I can definitely do a Xanth lynch. Their posts are majorly fluff and perhaps I'm new to the site, but surely I can't be the only one seeing their activity as such.
Anyway, definitely hard town read on Tywin. He didn't immediately buddy me or anything and I feel he's town motivated.
Due to having actual experience playing with Alisae and grey (although I can't talk about ongoing games, so there's a limit to what I can say here), they feel town to me in this instance. Idk what scum Alisae looks like, but the other head plays differently (aka far more cautious, less ability to generate reads, sheeping others, etc) IMO while scum.
I also play 'by the book' web it comes to claims, and the book says to not lynch them without a flip or CC, or at least enough room to gamble on it (like if there was only 1 scum left) and not have it hurt town much. D1 just is a bad day to flip cop claims. Either the guy will get his 1-shot off tonight, or he will be NK'd tonight. If neither happen, he can be flipped later. So in that respect, I agree with the hydra. It doesn't make sense to push him there, and I think he's easy lynchbait regardless. I don't want him in a Lylo situation, but if he's town, he won't make it there anyways.
As far as balance, not really, because we don't know the setup without some flips. It's a shitty gamble to say a 1-shot doesn't fit balance-wise. That's a bad argument. If he didn't claim an X-shot, I'd be far more suspicious, but those modifiers are there for balance reasons. You being a role cop instead of normal cop means there are some heavy PRs in the game. There'd be no other reason for it, so due to that, an X-shot doesn't strike me as unbalanced. I don't really follow why you think otherwise?
The hydra is playing as Ali always plays, which is to ask a shit ton of questions and form reads much later. That's how I've seen it in the multiple games I've played with her, and she was town in them all. I don't see how asking questions is scummy. That's what scum hunting entails. Reads that aren't solidified with questions are usually shit.
I think you acknowledging the tunnel is fine, and I don't have a problem with SRing him, but I don't think he's a good lynch today. If he's lying, he's not the only scum, and more reads on everyone is a better play. If he is lynched and flips town, what then? What info is gained, and why did we just let all the lurking fucks slide by for another day without reason?
See my point?
