In post 323, Tywin Lannister wrote:It just so happens that his misreps, shading, and flat out lies were against me.
I haven't misrep'd anything, but I've already shown an example of you misrepping me. You can keep screaming it from the pulpit all day, but Jeebus ain't coming to validate your bs.
"SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball
@Comm: you give cases the way I do when ISOing someone, although your format it better so people actually read it lol. Anyway, I agree that skald won't take a hard stance on anyone here except TRs. His SRs don't have any reasoning behind them, and he doesn't look to actually believe any of them nearly the same way he does TRs. Since scum already know who town are, that's easy to be genuine there, but SRs aren't if you are faking them. So yeah, I agree. I still think Sly is scummier, and I need to sort peregrine too.
@Sly: saying its a reason doesn't make it one.. Wtf? Stop playing semantics here. It's not alignment indicative, so TRing Kain's slot makes no sense. He's never even posted more than once, and the entire thing was snipped. I didn't see it, but I can't fathom how you'd get a read whatsoever on a slot that basically never posted, let alone your top TR. It makes no sense.
Also, I haven't misrep'd anything, and you going back and forth repeating my words back to me doesn't make it true. What have I misrepresented you with that you've proven? Please show me, because the way I see it, you've talking out of your ass this entire time. You keep repeating that I haven't read the thread as if that somehow will be true just by saying it, ignore most of what I say to cherry pick specific things to deny through semantics over genuine responses, and then you call me the liar for it instead of ever addressing almost any accusation brought to your attention. You're using diversionary tactics. It's pretty obvious. Why?
Sly, the more you try to defend that indefensible excuse for a read on KT, the more I want to lynch you.
Looks to me like you just threw out a pile of garbage and are doubling down on your shit logic after being called out on it in hopes that we'll townread you for it.
Refusing to reconsider a read that was made on shitty grounds isn't town. It's scum pushing an agenda.
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In post 332, SlySly wrote:Welcome, Ramcius. Can you please tell Tywin you are town so he can get some shut eye? Thanks in advance.
I don't care if he is. I want to know how you 'know' this from a player with a grand total of zero non-deleted posts. He's your top TR, and he hasn't even posted yet.
In post 122, Skelda wrote:Hi guys! I didn't realize that the game had started, I'm reading back now.
Introduction post, doesn't count for anything. Nothing of substance.
Second Post
In post 123, Skelda wrote:Okay so I totally believe James obviously. I'm not convinced that it is Comm though.
Vote: Uzi
is where I'm at right now. It seemed like they were trying hard to make their James doubt seem Town.
Short 2-liner with a vote. Nothing really analyzed, which part of Uzi's posts seemed like they were trying too hard? Like which specific part? Seems like sheeping for the first line of easy reads.
Third Post
In post 214, Skelda wrote:Yeah I think James and Comm are Town too. I agree with the people saying that.
Uzi still seems possible I guess, he hasn't done anything especially Town. I could also see it being Tywin for some reason, I'm not sure how to articulate why though.
Sheeps consensus that I'm town now, just basically "I agree". Then his post about Uzi, it's like he's projecting himself unto Uzi because this is his third post and nothing "especially Town" yet! Then casts shade on Tywin because you know, he can't explain why!
Fourth Post
In post 264, Skelda wrote:Meh, it could be SlySly. I mean, he hasn't done anything particularly redeeming.
Most scum that I've played with would withdraw in this situation rather than doubling down, so I'm not scumreading him super hard, but it seems possible-ish. I dunno. I can definitely conceive of Town thinking the way that SlySly is, it isn't this super outlandish thing like some of you guys are making it out to be.
I think Xanth is Town and I'm for sure not Townreading Tywin, I'm going to keep my vote on Uzi though. His recent vote on Sly felt a little desperate and like he was just agreeing with what others had said to get off the hook.
Again, he calls someone else out as not doing anything really yet what has he done up to this point? More shading. Still going after Uzi as "desperate" but look at what he's doing. GRASPING AT STRAWS STILL. Yet again, "I agree".
In post 264, Skelda wrote:Meh, it could be SlySly. I mean, he hasn't done anything particularly redeeming.
Most scum that I've played with would withdraw in this situation rather than doubling down, so I'm not scumreading him super hard, but it seems possible-ish. I dunno. I can definitely conceive of Town thinking the way that SlySly is, it isn't this super outlandish thing like some of you guys are making it out to be.
Cautious scum found.
Not really.
100% usless post, expand on why you don't agree.
So out of 5 posts, first and fifth are fillers and he's done a crud job about doing anything townie as of yet but seems all too willing to call others out for not doing so much. Yet everyone he's called out has been more active and contributed much more to the conversation than he has.
So Tywin, what do you think of this analysis?
Fastposted a few times. Yep, Tywin is the towniest of the lot at the moment.
Why is any of this scummy? Town can do all of these things.
I don't really have that much to say on most Day 1s and I'm not going to construct opinions that I don't have, and I've not really gotten into this game yet so yeah, my posts are fillery. If anything me posting like that means that I absolutely do not care what people think of me because I don't. I would know better than to make posts like that as scum, I would fake it more. I'm not trying to give substantive posts because I don't have substantive opinions on the game.
If I had a good reason why Tywin wasn't Towny I would have said it. It's mostly gut, but give me a sec and I'll read over his posts. I can't even remember what he's done so far this game right now.
In post 185, Tywin Lannister wrote:They both strike me as TvT. Specially, newtown vs newtown. Will look at it more after work, but comm looks new to Mafia based on him thinking his claim there was a good idea, since it doesn't really cc anything. They're both modified cops, although one is a non-consecutive role cop, the other a 1-shot normal cop. They both basically outted themselves without reason. Being a role cop should've told comm to expect things like a scum/town roleblocker, scum/town cop, etc, because there's no point to a role cop over a normal cop otherwise. Usually, town role cops need a reason to search for roles instead of simply guilty/innocent, so I think that should've been common sense to him. Due to that, also having a weak 1-shot cop makes sense and fits balance-wise, especially with the 'time shifted' mechanic in play. I think they're both newtown at this point, and regardless, neither are the correct lynch D1.
Posts like this seem like they are trying to project Towniness rather than actually analyze the situation at hand, and plus this seems like an obvious point to go into a lot of effort to explain. Tywin has a couple posts like this that feel like more than is necessary to get his point across. I dunno, I don't really have a super strong scumread on him, but do we have any reason to believe that any thing he's doing here is something he wouldn't do as scum? Not really. And so therefore can we townread him? Not really.
But that's the way this site works tbh, there are certain playstyles that are Townread at the start consistently and I don't really expect that to change. And my playstyle is one that is scumread at the start consistently because I'm honest about what I think and I'm not going to fake it as Town, that's just the way it goes. So yeah.
In post 122, Skelda wrote:Hi guys! I didn't realize that the game had started, I'm reading back now.
Introduction post, doesn't count for anything. Nothing of substance.
Second Post
In post 123, Skelda wrote:Okay so I totally believe James obviously. I'm not convinced that it is Comm though.
Vote: Uzi
is where I'm at right now. It seemed like they were trying hard to make their James doubt seem Town.
Short 2-liner with a vote. Nothing really analyzed, which part of Uzi's posts seemed like they were trying too hard? Like which specific part? Seems like sheeping for the first line of easy reads.
Third Post
In post 214, Skelda wrote:Yeah I think James and Comm are Town too. I agree with the people saying that.
Uzi still seems possible I guess, he hasn't done anything especially Town. I could also see it being Tywin for some reason, I'm not sure how to articulate why though.
Sheeps consensus that I'm town now, just basically "I agree". Then his post about Uzi, it's like he's projecting himself unto Uzi because this is his third post and nothing "especially Town" yet! Then casts shade on Tywin because you know, he can't explain why!
Fourth Post
In post 264, Skelda wrote:Meh, it could be SlySly. I mean, he hasn't done anything particularly redeeming.
Most scum that I've played with would withdraw in this situation rather than doubling down, so I'm not scumreading him super hard, but it seems possible-ish. I dunno. I can definitely conceive of Town thinking the way that SlySly is, it isn't this super outlandish thing like some of you guys are making it out to be.
I think Xanth is Town and I'm for sure not Townreading Tywin, I'm going to keep my vote on Uzi though. His recent vote on Sly felt a little desperate and like he was just agreeing with what others had said to get off the hook.
Again, he calls someone else out as not doing anything really yet what has he done up to this point? More shading. Still going after Uzi as "desperate" but look at what he's doing. GRASPING AT STRAWS STILL. Yet again, "I agree".
In post 264, Skelda wrote:Meh, it could be SlySly. I mean, he hasn't done anything particularly redeeming.
Most scum that I've played with would withdraw in this situation rather than doubling down, so I'm not scumreading him super hard, but it seems possible-ish. I dunno. I can definitely conceive of Town thinking the way that SlySly is, it isn't this super outlandish thing like some of you guys are making it out to be.
Cautious scum found.
Not really.
100% usless post, expand on why you don't agree.
So out of 5 posts, first and fifth are fillers and he's done a crud job about doing anything townie as of yet but seems all too willing to call others out for not doing so much. Yet everyone he's called out has been more active and contributed much more to the conversation than he has.
So Tywin, what do you think of this analysis?
Fastposted a few times. Yep, Tywin is the towniest of the lot at the moment.
Lot of petty and NAI stuff here. I think you're not thinking about the motivation for any of his actions.
In post 334, Tywin Lannister wrote:I want to know how you 'know' this from a player with a grand total of zero non-deleted posts.
The post wasn't deleted. You need to learn to say what you mean, not how you're trying to twist it.
You read me as scum, I would assume that would explain to you how I know things.
Again, his post was deleted. You're arguing semantics. You know exactly what I meant. Why play coy?
Also, yes, I believe you're scum and the only reason you'd TR a slot that doesn't make any sense to have any read on (other than null) is due to that. I also want to know why you'd be playing the way you are as scum. You're practically admitting it, and I can't figure out why. Is that direct enough for you, or do you want to continue talking about how I should word things differently, even though you fully understand everything I say to you?
Here, let me be even more direct and down to the point for you:
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In post 326, Tywin Lannister wrote:@Comm: you give cases the way I do when ISOing someone, although your format it better so people actually read it lol. Anyway, I agree that skald won't take a hard stance on anyone here except TRs. His SRs don't have any reasoning behind them, and he doesn't look to actually believe any of them nearly the same way he does TRs. Since scum already know who town are, that's easy to be genuine there, but SRs aren't if you are faking them. So yeah, I agree. I still think Sly is scummier, and I need to sort peregrine too.
@Sly: saying its a reason doesn't make it one.. Wtf? Stop playing semantics here. It's not alignment indicative, so TRing Kain's slot makes no sense. He's never even posted more than once, and the entire thing was snipped. I didn't see it, but I can't fathom how you'd get a read whatsoever on a slot that basically never posted, let alone your top TR. It makes no sense.
Also, I haven't misrep'd anything, and you going back and forth repeating my words back to me doesn't make it true. What have I misrepresented you with that you've proven? Please show me, because the way I see it, you've talking out of your ass this entire time. You keep repeating that I haven't read the thread as if that somehow will be true just by saying it, ignore most of what I say to cherry pick specific things to deny through semantics over genuine responses, and then you call me the liar for it instead of ever addressing almost any accusation brought to your attention. You're using diversionary tactics. It's pretty obvious. Why?
Skeld's reads feel like they are coming from laid back town and are probably gut based other than the one on me. I don't get a fake vibe from him and the scum intent in his posts feels practically nonexistent to me.
In post 342, Tywin Lannister wrote:
Again, his post was deleted. You're arguing semantics. You know exactly what I meant. Why play coy?
Click Timeshift Mafia III. Go to page 1. Scroll to Post 8. Who posted it? That's a post that's not deleted. Hmmm, that contradicts what you said. Hate me for dealing in facts.
In post 342, Tywin Lannister wrote:
Also, yes, I believe you're scum and the only reason you'd TR a slot that doesn't make any sense to have any read on (other than null) is due to that. I also want to know why you'd be playing the way you are as scum. You're practically admitting it, and I can't figure out why. Is that direct enough for you, or do you want to continue talking about how I should word things differently, even though you fully understand everything I say to you?
Here, let me be even more direct and down to the point for you:
Are you scum?
What's your angle?
Who are your scum buddies?
I'm not scum. My angle is a town win. I don't have any scum buddies.
"SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball
If his claim is true and we lynched him, big deal. It would be worth it not to listen to his snippiness for the entire game.
I'd be willing to lynch him just so the rest of the game can be fun.
Here's the post you keep saying didn't happen Sly. You're constantly deflecting, denying, and misdirecting instead of answering legitimately. Those are all scum tactics. You really are one of the scummiest players I've ever seen. I agree with your signature.
In post 215, SlySly wrote:
Not true. He's a 1-shot cop. He could screw up his one shot. He's not a big loss.
If his claim is true
and we lynched him, big deal. It would be worth it not to listen to his snippiness for the entire game. I'd be willing to lynch him just so the rest of the game can be fun.
"SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball
In post 81, Land of Xanth wrote:
Move on from James and find someone else to vote, because the only people with any notice for killing a claimed cop on d1 is Scum.
The 1-shot part was pointed out to show the difference in what Xanth was saying and what the actual claim was.
"SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball