Micro 675: Heroes of the Storm uPick - Game Over!

[Foxbird]

Votecount 1.11

Aj The Epic

(4) - Seiko x Naomi, The Oxford Bubbles, Syryana, borkjerfkin

(L-1!)

Syryana

(1) - Shadow_step

Obvious Alt

(1) - Aj The Epic

Not Voting

(3) - Dunnstral, Obvious Alt, Charloux

With

9

players eligible to vote, it’s

5

to lynch!

Day 1 will end in

(expired on 2017-01-26 06:01:00).

Mod Notes:

A pagetop!

[Dunnstral]

More like I'm not really into this because all I can say is kill lurkers as I can't get good reads

I don't think we should lynch aj and I'll get into that in a few hours on pc

I'm sorry to disappoint but my power isn't anything to make me obvtown, it requires planning though as it takes effect on day 2, though I've sorted my reads out enough now

VOTE: Seiko x Naomi

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Shadowstep
I think shadow is scum here and I'll get into that on pc too

[Dunnstral]

Next, I'll say that I got my 3rd choice of hero, so there should be a johanna and a sylvanas in the game (I don't see how revealing this could be bad)

[borkjerfkin]

my 2nd was sylvanas but I got my first

[Obvious Alt]

I agree with the impulse for a counterwagon. Shadow looks like the best option.

VOTE: Shadow_Step

[borkjerfkin]

some weird shit is going on.

[Dunnstral]

Give me like 2.5 hours and I'll walk you through shadow scum and aj town

[borkjerfkin]

ok.

[Obvious Alt]

I got my first pick. I don't think that not getting your first pick has anything to do with what other people got (though it is possible.) More likely, Fox took your list and used it to make best-fit choices for predetermined roles.

For example, my second and third choices were Sgt Hammer and Sonya respectively. Neither would have made any damn sense for the role I have. Frankly, my first choice is a stretch, but it works.

[Syryana]

some weird shit is going on.

QFT

[Dunnstral]

some weird shit is going on.

QFT

Why?

[Syryana]

Because the timing on this counterwagon is weird AF.

[Dunnstral]

found himself in a comfortable early game global tier-2 town read

It was suggested earlier that I could be a gladiator and I never said anything to it (I'm not though)
Do you think this is potentially interesting for these reads on me?

[Dunnstral]

Because the timing on this counterwagon is weird AF.

In what way?

What scenarios are you theorizing here

[Dunnstral]

found himself in a comfortable early game global tier-2 town read

It was suggested earlier that I could be a gladiator and I never said anything to it (I'm not though)
Do you think this is potentially interesting for these reads on me?

Eh forget the gladiate part, just the fact that I had an undisclosed ability to use

[borkjerfkin]

found himself in a comfortable early game global tier-2 town read

It was suggested earlier that I could be a gladiator and I never said anything to it (I'm not though)
Do you think this is potentially interesting for these reads on me?

I am not sure that understand the question; are people townreading you for your soft? probably - as syr/I even pointed out it explained your early game behavior a little.

[borkjerfkin]

I have my own ideas about the CW but Imma let Syr have a little stage time

[Dunnstral]

I'm kind of implying that perhaps scum would want to buddy up to me while I had an active power/potential gladiate

[borkjerfkin]

oh

that didn't really occur to me tbh, but it's not a bad point

[Aj The Epic]

Because the timing on this counterwagon is weird AF.

So unless you're calling Dunn scum here, what you're just saying is OA's vote is bad. If there was going to be a scum counterpush to me here, wouldn't that happen BEFORE bork votes, not after?

[borkjerfkin]

UNVOTE:

I'm willing to hear some people out, it's fucking sad/interesting that I had to put someone at L-1 for all this to go down.

[borkjerfkin]

So unless you're calling Dunn scum here, what you're just saying is OA's vote is bad. If there was going to be a scum counterpush to me here, wouldn't that happen BEFORE bork votes, not after?

what point are you trying to make here?

[Aj The Epic]

Syrana's point of this being a counterwagon (of 2...) is just shade tossing unless he's gonna come out and say something. It's also badly timed for a counterwagon anyways.

[Seiko x Naomi]

I think AJ is just manufacturing reasons to SR Ob Alt, he's on l-2 and thinks that he needs to make a counter wagon and Ob Alt looks the best bet right now.

I disagree, I feel like what he said outlined some of my misgivings too. Particularly how obv alt has a scumread on you as of page 7- I explicitly went back and double checked. You had all of three posts prior to page seven, and one was the post she linked. None of them seemed remotely alignment indicative, imo, so her trying to pass it off as such is weird. And avoiding commenting on the more prominent posters (particularly when its not even fluffposting) is strange too.

Also, the way they reacted to AJ's pressure (that aj called out) is sketchy too. It looks like scum who is stressed because people didn't believe their reads, then realized

who

did not believe their reads and realized it was better to act indignant.

Its really kneejerk and weird.

I think AJ is just manufacturing reasons to SR Ob Alt, he's on l-2 and thinks that he needs to make a counter wagon and Ob Alt looks the best bet right now.

Suppose AJ is town, and know he is town. Does he know Obv Alt's alignment- anyone's alignment other than his own? Isn't a 1/4 (again, assuming he is town from his vantage point) chance in finding scum in a lynch better than a 0%?

The gist of what I am trying to say is that Obv Alt IS sketchy, but if AJ is town, he KNOWS he is town whereas he can't say the same about the rest of the playerlist. So to that point, I don't particularly mind what he did.

To be frank, the only reason I'm still voting him is bc I don't feel like messing with pie's vote before we have a chance to talk about shit because I am not remotely confident in an AJ lynch at all.

I'm open to a TOB-alogue with you notty

What about them makes you townread them?

Like I will admit my initial thoughts regarding their push on you was bad town but at the same time, I really did not like their jump on the AJ wagon (they are the one vote on the wagon that I really do not like at all) because it essentially boils down to them sheeping another player before said other player has even placed a vote. It shows a lack of thinking for themselves which is one thing if its just one player (its not good then either) but another thing entirely if it seems like multiple heads agree on the front of sheeping bork without anything else substantial to add?

And I *really* don't like the "chaos" they ensue because it feels off and I understand part of this could be tonality from masking a main account but it seems like chaos for the sake of chaos, because it was brought up earlier.

And the last thing is their day one claim thing which I outlined before, I fail to see why scum wouldn't claim anti-town roles in order to gain towncred (or even fakeclaim a role that deters them from being targetted altogether). Yes, the role claimed was antitown but the gist of it was do not target me. There is plenty of motive for scum to claim a role like that, and I don't believe this whole "we didn't know the right time to claim" business, because if you /actually/ have an antitown role your first priority is to alert the town. I refuse to believe a hydra of three people does not have even ONE who brought this up.

TOB (notty i'm willing to engage on this but you've got a lot of convincing to do, I think you're seeing orchestration that isn't there and bubbles just likes to be really dramatic and silly)

I mean don't we all? You know I have my flair for that stuff too. But I'm not convinced it's not just a front to keep people from attempting to/being able to read deeper, along with what I've mentioned before.

some weird shit is going on.

QFT

Also have thoughts re the wagon that I'm sitting on.