In Memory

The DEO · Post Post #3275 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:27 pm

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have dinner reservations and I need to find out if our Pony arrived.

JaeReed · Post Post #3276 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:27 pm

I don't have the patience to deal with this again, drealmerz, I really don't. I have few reads I have absolute confidence in and if you shoot in them I'm going to be extremely pissed because it's autowin otherwise the way I see it.

Either play like the town vig and don't shoot obvtown, or be lynched because you want to play the equivalent of a serial killer shooting at random. At this stage it is incredibly anti-town to shoot in the townblock.

drealmerz7 · Post Post #3277 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:29 pm

I don't give a fuck what the site meta is

this site has a bunch of fuckedness about it that could do better to change, and that is a huge one

do you generally let fear rule you in your games?

JR, THAT IS YOUR FUCKING TOWNBLOCK, NOT MINE, WTF!!!!

The DEO · Post Post #3278 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:30 pm

In post 3276, JaeReed wrote:I don't have the patience to deal with this again, drealmerz, I really don't. I have few reads I have absolute confidence in and if you shoot in them I'm going to be extremely pissed because it's autowin otherwise the way I see it.

Either play like the town vig and don't shoot obvtown, or be lynched because you want to play the equivalent of a serial killer shooting at random. At this stage it is incredibly anti-town to shoot in the townblock.

Please tell him the names of the block.

~Titus

drealmerz7 · Post Post #3279 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:30 pm

oh, and by the way

TOWNBLOCKS ARE FUCKING STUPID

just like THREAD-MASONS

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #3280 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:31 pm

It's not my feeling that any of the play has stepped over the line but I am monitoring things.

The DEO · Post Post #3281 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:32 pm

In post 3279, drealmerz7 wrote:oh, and by the way

TOWNBLOCKS ARE FUCKING STUPID

just like THREAD-MASONS

I win with townblocks quite well, regardless of my alignment. Mafia is a team game.

Town as a whole versus scum.

Townblocks and in thread masons make things more obvious.

drealmerz7 · Post Post #3282 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:33 pm

wrong

drealmerz7 · Post Post #3283 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:34 pm

any skilled scum can infiltrate said "townblock"

it's poor play, irresponsible

drealmerz7 · Post Post #3284 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:34 pm

naive

JaeReed · Post Post #3285 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:44 pm

My "don't shoot these" block: Creature, Postie, myself, DEO, Alisae

drealmerz7 · Post Post #3286 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:51 pm

that's a horrible "townblock" imo

creature has been MIA and fishy as fuck, GE while apparently NAI for his absence, still doesn't get anywhere close to a TR for me, muchless such an assured one to become a "townblockee"

I have no interest in shooting you or postie

Postie · Post Post #3287 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:52 pm

In post 3285, JaeReed wrote:Alisae

?

JaeReed · Post Post #3288 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:03 pm

In post 3286, drealmerz7 wrote:that's a horrible "townblock" imo

creature has been MIA and fishy as fuck, GE while apparently NAI for his absence, still doesn't get anywhere close to a TR for me, muchless such an assured one to become a "townblockee"

I have no interest in shooting you or postie

If I were telling you my TOWNblock I would have said TOWNblock. That's my DON'T SHOOT THESE block.

Creature is fine. He offered no resistance when I asked him to vote Vax and Vedith was clearly trying to buddy him on D1. Alisae is good enough for now with Postie saying she's more likely to be town than not since they would have had a PT to sort each other overnight, and I trust that Alisae is an easy enough read having been in her first newbie not that long ago.

Alisae · Post Post #3289 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:05 pm

WOWIE MY PLAYSTYLE IS EXACTLY THE SAME TO MY FIRST GAME OF MAFIA ON SITE EVER!

drealmerz7 · Post Post #3290 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:06 pm

so your don't shoot these block is different than your townblock? can you explain how? I would think they'd be pretty much the same?

JaeReed · Post Post #3291 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:28 pm

In post 3289, Alisae wrote:WOWIE MY PLAYSTYLE IS EXACTLY THE SAME TO MY FIRST GAME OF MAFIA ON SITE EVER!

Absolutely not the same, don't sass me =P I'm just aware of your play and that it's easy enough to read at this stage still.

In post 3290, drealmerz7 wrote:so your don't shoot these block is different than your townblock? can you explain how? I would think they'd be pretty much the same?

Sure. It's anti-town to shoot in that group of people, but I don't necessarily read all of them as town with 100% confidence. My townblock and "don't shoot these" blocks overlap but are not the same.

Alisae · Post Post #3292 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:32 pm

Anyhowz Senpai (Jae), I would like to remind you that le Creeps (The person FA replaced) was on every big wagon.
Your thoughts on 422?

mhsmith0 · Post Post #3293 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:40 pm

Spoiler: VC Data

Probably gonna try for VC thoughts over the weekend. Other notes:

1) Really not seeing DEO as scum here. Like, if you ever wanted a solid case for "too wolfy to be a wolf" just go back and look at those posts around hammer.
3155 - hard town reading
3157 - still pushing against
some stuff happens
3175 - hammer
3180 - suggests derp on the vote
3185 - blah response on the vote count
3187 - blames kuroi for the derp hammer
3192 - claims derp
3193 - claims to suck at counting
3194 - deflecting onto different read
3198 - nonsensical read about zef

Like that whole sequence looks utterly terrible if vax is town, like nervous scum just blowing the engagement. But since vax was scum? There's nothing to be nervous about, since they knew they weren't gonna take heat for derp-hammering town. So yeah, that's a terrible looking sequence, but in a townie way.

2) I'm just gonna presume that vaxkiller targeted lycan on N2 and his team shot there too. I think that's kind of a weird shot for scum to be taking normally, but if boring was scum and they figured that lycan would eventually look good for it, that actually makes sense. Gut says drealz wouldn't openly claim that shot for no damn reason at all if he was scum, which probably means that it just happened to be a double kill.

FWIW, I also believe drealz when he claims to have not shot kuroi; I wasn't especially town-reading kuroi, and even mentioned in the PT that it was plausible that kuroi had made a lazy bus there, and I feel like he could have reasonably easily taken that shot and then claimed a "vig" for his trouble.

JaeReed · Post Post #3294 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:54 pm

In post 3292, Alisae wrote:Anyhowz Senpai (Jae), I would like to remind you that le Creeps (The person FA replaced) was on every big wagon.
Your thoughts on 422?

It was bad. That said, I don't think Creeps knows what's AI and what's not.

What's your point about the big wagons, and why are you bringing him up at this time?

Alisae · Post Post #3295 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:57 pm

Just an observation on the wagons part.
As for why, I posted this inconsistentcy and I want your opinion on it.

In post 3217, Alisae wrote:Vax: Hey guys, let's not lynch FA!
-After getting lolhammered-
Vax: FA is at the bottom of my reads now.

JaeReed · Post Post #3296 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:07 pm

My opinion is wifom end of day shit after he was hammered. I don't like trying to read known wifom. I'd prefer only looking at the stuff from before he was screwed and probably felt he was in a good enough position to help his partners.

Also, Creeps didn't jump ship onto the Lycanfire wagon, so he hasn't really been on every major wagon.

JaeReed · Post Post #3297 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:09 pm

In post 3295, Alisae wrote:Just an observation on the wagons part.

There's no such thing as "just" observations. You were trying to imply it was scummy, yes? I don't see it. IIRC DEO has also been on every major wagon and they're a townread of mine so...

Alisae · Post Post #3298 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:13 pm

Yeah I'm TRing the Titus hydra too mosty because of the interactions that you call wifom.

Either way, I feel like your read on me is just sorta lazy. Just like "Eh, they have a PT and Postie TRs them, so let's just go with the flow."
Feels wierd and awkward.

JaeReed · Post Post #3299 (ISO) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:14 pm

Have you backread at all?