Timeshift Mafia III [Game Over]

[SlySly]

Its way to early to talk about a policy lynch.

It's never too early to talk policy lynch. Did someone claim miller? I'm in!

[SlySly]

To leave the scumfucks in the dark of course!

ObvAli

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Hi I exist. Sorry.

This is utterly useless post.

This is utterly useless post.

BTW we're gonna stop signing posts now.

Please don't.

[Land of Xanth]

Hi I exist. Sorry.

This is utterly useless post.

This is utterly useless post.

BTW we're gonna stop signing posts now.

Please don't.

We're doing it.

[Land of Xanth]

To leave the scumfucks in the dark of course!

ObvAli

That was Grey along with this.

[SlySly]

-Duh-

[-Grey-]

I feel pretty
Oh so pretty
I feel pretty
And witty
And bright~

And I pity
Any girl that isn't me tonight~

[Land of Xanth]

I feel pretty
Oh so pretty
I feel pretty
And witty
And bright~

And I pity
Any girl that isn't me tonight~

Lel

[Tywin Lannister]

Just logged in and saw that I was prodded. Could've sworn I've posted within the past 48 hours, but oh well. I've been sick with bronchitis, so I haven't really logged in over the weekend. Catching up now.

[Skelda]

I'm sorry guys, I had a lot going on today. I'm going to read the thread tomorrow and scrape some thoughts together.

[Tywin Lannister]

So there's absolutely nothing substatially new being said between my last post Friday night to my latest Sunday night. That's still not 48 hours either, so idk why I was I prodded?

Anyway, here's everything that's happened in the past 2 days: Sly keeps being scummy on purpose (seriously, wtf?), Fuzzy says his lynch is fine, Ram wants to policy lynch fuzzy for it, hark I forgot what his stance was and am too lazy to reread it, Kyouko SRs hark for his stance that I forgot, LoX SRs Sly, Vifam hasn't said anything game related, I forgot the other half of the player pool for being inactives, peregrinV I quoted below, Uzi TRs everyone apparently, James wants Sly to claim, and everyone else is still pretty much still inactive. Who'd I forget? I'm on phone so can't go back to read without this getting deleted, but that's about everything anyways.

I will say that if I got prodded (assuming it wasn't a mistake), then that means half the game is about to be replaced.

@PeregrineV:

@peregrin: okay so calling half my case on Sly OMGUS is still different than saying everything I said boils down to OMGUS. That's not true, because I don't vote someone I don't think is scum, and the definition of OMGUS in MS's own wiki is: OMGUS stands for "Oh My God, You Suck (for voting for me)!". it is sometimes used as a shorthand to indicate that you are voting for someone primarily because they voted for you.

1. Sly isn't voting me
2. I've clearly stated why I SR him. It just so happens that his misreps, shading, and flat out lies were against me.

So again: why do you ignore the actual case and everything both he and I have said, and instead try to discredit my CASE/SR using a buzzword that doesn't fit? Do you TR Sly, and if so, why? If not, why are you defending him? He seems pretty capable of handling himself here.

1. Spirit of OMGUS - (you scumread him for him scumreading you)
2. I guess when you confront him about those misreps, shading, and lies, I'll eagerly read both of your posts thoroughly.

I null-read Sly, because of my experience playing him in past games. Time will tell, I suppose.

I'm mostly trying to get a read off of you, because there is a sense of activity from you, but it's not seeming to reach the conclusions I expected.

1. Fine. I don't really care enough to argue this point beyond saying I don't agree that it fits. It looked like a buzzword being thrown around as a chainsaw instead of you actually believing it, but I'm not gonna push something that I can't prove.

2. You don't think I already have? I'm kind of wondering if you read any of it? Also, why haven't you asked him yourself if my questions aren't getting all the answers you wanted to see? Why would you eagerly wait for others to post questions/thoughts instead of doing it yourself?

3. What was your experience of him in past games? Did he look as scummy in those games as he does here, and what did he flip? I'm guessing you've seen him act scummy in both town and scum alignments for you to null read him here? Has this read been updated at all since his latest string of posts, or do you hold firm to the null stance?

4. What conclusions were you expecting me to reach? I'm curious as to what those are. You seem to want to direct me somewhere by the tone of multiple posts directed at me, but where, and why? Do you have specific players you SR that you want me to SR as well, or what are you saying about me 'not reaching the expected conclusions?' Why not just say it instead of trying to nudge me there?

[Tywin Lannister]

I forgot a few:

Pepchoninga arguing with Ram about why he's bad town.

TTTT just posts his distaste for EM players, and asks LoX what it's like to be a hydra.

Zekromaster tells everyone to stop guessing setup and meta and give him a case to sheep.

Skald just says 'hi,' follows it up with 'bye.'

Summary for everyone that hasn't read anything.

[Ramcius]

VOTE: Fuzzy

1) did nothing yet, blatant prod dodging
2) got very defensive called out
3) VT claim is as bad as PR, you narrowing down PRS for nk

i'm totally fine lynch this today

1) yep..... this is not necessarily scummy action as both town and scum are inactive.
2) Are you saying I got defensive after I got called out. Sorry could quite understand what you are saying and I don't want to guess
4) Point taken.... Did not think of that when I posted

Fuzzy is probably town solely for his entrance and how consistent his tone has been throughout.

i don't argue him being town, i'm saying i'm ok with lynch him for his attitude, if we won't find more suitable lynch

Huh , so you want to policy lynch a likely town. Can you explain how that is town in any way

Lynching claimed VT i would take every time over random lynch, especially when that VT is a lurker, i agree lynching likely town isn't very towny, but PL someone acting anti-town is perfectly fine in my book

btw prod dodging is not scummy either, to me its a nul move

@ Ram
Its way to early to talk about a policy lynch...... we have days to hit scum

we? you haven't done anything yet, as lot others too, game is standing in place and i don't want go in rounds, so poking you is my way to progress game

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Hmm, if no wagons grow, I think it indicates town is either horribly wrong about the wagons that are going (TvT), or scum don't want to bus a partner. Either way, scum are lurking outside of the current wagons. We should run some up if they don't step up imo, decent chance lurkers are scum in this gamestate

[ssbm_Kyouko]

EBWOP: run some

lurkers

up*

[Ramcius]

Hmm, if no wagons grow, I think it indicates town is either horribly wrong about the wagons that are going (TvT), or scum don't want to bus a partner. Either way, scum are lurking outside of the current wagons. We should run some up if they don't step up imo, decent chance lurkers are scum in this gamestate

feel free join Fuzzy wagon then, he already crumbling, i really don't like this defensive style from him, and telling he didn't thought about claiming VT is hurtful to town, but he claims to be quite experienced in here, just had some break, he's death means little, but later he don't want to be PL'ed and we should read him null, for me he screams 3p, and he's response to my vote just strengthened that read

[Zekromaster]

I forgot a few:
Zekromaster tells everyone to stop guessing setup and meta and give him a case to sheep.

Zekromaster tells everyone to stop ONLY guessing setup and meta. Guess all we want, at the end of day phase we get a lynch, not some points based on how well we guessed the setup. So either we wait for something to happen from nothing, or we start playing Mafia and not just "guess the setup" (which means starting to guess who's scum based on things that aren't just confronting their claim with the setup and meta - they are helpful, but if they were sufficient to see who's scum, open setups would be automatic town win).


So, aside from talking about Zekromaster in third person, Zekromaster wants to point out this game is stalling. He's asking a single question hoping to get something to work on, either for him or for others:

@James3, CommKnight, AnyoneWhoClaimedOrWantsToClaim:

If you are really your role, why do you think claiming D1 is a good idea?

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@James3: Yes, I know, meta. But either you're bad town or hiding behind meta, no one sane would ever claim TWO DAYS BEFORE HIS FIRST RESULT. Zekromaster would like some more practical and logical answer, as he thinks "meta" isn't the real reason behing that claim.

Anyone claiming this early in this kind of game looks scummy, as if they get enough people to believe them they get two days of sure survival. A real cop or rolecop claiming on D1 is basically nk-bait, especially since there are timeshifted roles making them risk to be killed for two nights before they even get their first result. Unless they're fakeclaiming scum and thus have nothing to fear, obviously.

Zekromaster is obviously still suspicious of Pep and Comm, but not seeing anything "new" from them (aside from an utterly useless post about how another post is an utterly useless post) or reactions to more recent posts means he doesn't want to take the risk of calling them scum yet.

[TTTT]

Game is bad.
needs more Navy SEAL James posts

[TTTT]

reads are coming really slow for me...
ssbm & Zekro are my townie home-boys
no clue about the rest of you
but I might re-read this afternoon is there's time in between my pedicure and barn fumigation

[TTTT]

Does anybody wanna hear a Hitler joke?
fair warning its not very funny

[D3f3nd3r]

Replacing Narna and Harp.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Why are you town reading Zekro?

[TTTT]

Why are you town reading Zekro?

posts are honest
genuine-looking read on James
asking good questions

[TTTT]

@ssbm
find me some more townies so we can town-bloc

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I'm not really seeing why that all can't be easily be faked but I do like the questions he's asked after a quick reread of his ISO. I only dislike one. What do you think about his vigilante question? Also, what do think about him not voting anyone currently and being one of the few people that has yet to vote?