In Memory

[mhsmith0]

It's a fine argument for them vanillaizing him. Lycan gets pushed and can sort the town and scum on his wagon while being confirmed town to lead. Vanillaized when he's lynched he just disappears and they only have to deal with unconfirmed living players.

But that's pretty dumb by scum in a role madness-y game with unknown powers. I guess I don't see the argument here at all. Like, not to be an asshole about it but lycan isn't a player who strikes me as a great town leader or someone to be feared to the extent where it makes sense to blow a shot just to silence him quicker instead of using it to hunt for town power that is actually useful.

[Alisae]

The vanillized makes sure he dies and frames Drealmerz. It is a matter of bullet economics.

~~Math

inb4 he actually got vanillized.

?

Of course Lycan was vanillized. He wasn't able to post the next day when he was supposed to be delayed death.

That has nothing to do with the post you quoted?

I mean drealmerz not Lycan.

Oh wait I just noticed what was wrong with this.

[mhsmith0]

The vanillized makes sure he dies and frames Drealmerz. It is a matter of bullet economics.

~~Math

What? He's dying anyway (delayed death bit), what's the scum upside to having him non stump? Why aren't scum using that vanillaizer power on someone whose power is unknown or might not suck?

1) Frame Drealmerz.
2) Unknown dictator ability.

How is drealz MORE framed in that scenario compared to lycan being stumped?
I guess the dictator bit might be interesting, will mull that over. But the idea of vaniliaziing someone to delay their delayed death vig just seems so... dumb. I don't get it at all.

[The DEO]

Because it creates the exact scenario where Drealmerz is fishy. That we had before.

~~Math

[Klingoncelt]

You think alisae is scum and not just bait?

Did you see those posts?

[mhsmith0]

Because it creates the exact scenario where Drealmerz is fishy. That we had before.

~~Math

How is drealz MORE framed in that scenario compared to lycan being stumped?

[Klingoncelt]

Can we just lynch zefiend

No. Unless you're Scum, vote for DEO.

I will not. So I am scum by your standards here.

Jae, c'mon. They're Scum.

[mhsmith0]

You think alisae is scum and not just bait?

Did you see those posts?

Have you seen alisaes town game? I guess I'd want to see an explanation for how it's specifically scum motivated instead of just bad.

[The DEO]

Because it creates the exact scenario where Drealmerz is fishy. That we had before.

~~Math

How is drealz MORE framed in that scenario compared to lycan being stumped?

Because then Lycanfire would activate his delayed death and it would be a normal shot versus trying to hypothesize what did cause it.

~~Math

[Alisae]

Now I feel shamed.

[Klingoncelt]

You think alisae is scum and not just bait?

Did you see those posts?

Have you seen alisaes town game? I guess I'd want to see an explanation for how it's specifically scum motivated instead of just bad.

It's done in hard defense of DEO.

[Alisae]

OOOOOOOOH KC.
I sure do got a surprise for you.

[mhsmith0]

Now I feel shamed.

A valuable step on the road to improvement. Like, I get that I'm being a bit of a condescending prick here, but I do think that you could stand to put more effort into removing the ascents of your play that get people to want to lynch you as town.

I suppose it might be a semi-intentional way of nerfing your town game to help your scum chances, but since you're usually gonna be town I kinda don't see the point if that's actually the case. And if it's not, I'd say take the time to work on identifying and fixing what gets you mislynched.

[mhsmith0]

It's done in hard defense of DEO.

So basically alisae is scum iff DEO is?

[Alisae]

And you had to write a paragraph about that...
Thats funny considering out of my completed games (key word is completed) I've been mislynched once (And you were moderating that game, we both know I played badly). Hell I got NK'd more then I did lynched. Sure it's out 7 games (4 of which I replaced in. and OH BOY IT'S 7 GAMES, SO SCARRY), 4 of which I replaced in. But you're implying I get mislynched a lot. And that's funny.

[Alisae]

Either way mshmith, can we save this conversation for post game, it's not getting us anywhere atm.

[mhsmith0]

And you had to write a paragraph about that...
Thats funny considering out of my completed games (key word is completed) I've been mislynched once (And you were moderating that game, we both know I played badly). Hell I got NK'd more then I did lynched. Sure it's out 7 games (4 of which I replaced in. and OH BOY IT'S 7 GAMES, SO SCARRY), 4 of which I replaced in. But you're implying I get mislynched a lot. And that's funny.

lol i presumed that was normal. fair enough i guess.

[mhsmith0]

^"that" being the game I'd modded btw

[drealmerz7]

you don't get lynched because scum wants to keep you around to muck up the game, duh

just skimming

off to watch something/fall asleep

[Alisae]

Anyhow I'm considering pushing The DEO if town doesn't win the game after the deaths of mhsmith and zefield.

[drealmerz7]

they are the only 3 you think could POSSIBLY be scum? really?

[Alisae]

How many scumreads do you thinK I should have drealmerz?
Tell me how to play the game.

[The DEO]

Anyhow I'm considering pushing The DEO if town doesn't win the game after the deaths of mhsmith and zefield.

...Zefiend should not be lynched.

~~Math

[drealmerz7]

that's not what I asked

the way you phrase it is you are quite sure that smith and zefiend are scum - and that you will be surprised if not, BUT, if not, then the DEO HAS to be the last scum, and you see no possibility for anything else - at least that is what how phrasing conveys to me, if it is not what you meant, you should probably try to be more careful with your words

[JaeReed]

you don't get lynched because scum wants to keep you around to muck up the game, duh

just skimming

off to watch something/fall asleep

I mean this is generally why I'm alive at the end of games despite being obvtown I think >.<