Micro 675: Heroes of the Storm uPick - Game Over!

[Syryana]

I'll be around in an hour or so

[borkjerfkin]

dunn's interactions with syryana pretty much involve no analysis of the latter's play since like page 2

note the difference between 258 (expresses a scumread on SS for this)
and 516 (ignores it)

[borkjerfkin]

Leantown: Seiko, Dunnstral (this one is stagnating a little too but not as much as charleyhorse)

why was dunn ever on the same tier as seiko here esp after pie's big post that got me (and ostensibly syr) to see that they were town

[borkjerfkin]

IMO OA looks worse than Dunn. I know the timing of the wagon is utter shit with it happening when it did and ultimately the reasoning for AJ-town is pretty lame (I'll deal with that in a minute) but I have this really strong feeling that Dunn isn't scum for it. It just feels really genuine to me I guess.

[borkjerfkin]

What are your reads now
What made you vote AJ?

Reads:

Town: Oxford, you
Leantown: Seiko, Dunnstral (this one is stagnating a little too but not as much as charleyhorse)
Was town or leantown but read is stagnating a lot: Charloux
No idea: S_S, Obvious Alt
!Town: Aj

Why vote AJ? A lot of it's gut. Some of it is that I feel he's said a fair number of words without actually saying anything. The whole PL thing was fluffy as fuck and basically led nowhere. The only thing of substance I see in his ISO is the Dunn thing but meh because he was in that game. I also still hate his 181 and he hasn't actually mentioned TOB since. (Actually I lied he said something about them in 231 but that means his whole schtick with them went nowhere so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

I'm open to a TOB-alogue with you notty

oh wait this never actually happened

I still would love for TOB to swing.

Maybe.

what is the progression here

[borkjerfkin]

what i actually think happened is he realized people were willing to lynch tob

[Foxbird]

Votecount 2.3

Dunnstral

(2) - borkjerfkin, Seiko x Naomi

(L-2!)

Syryana

(1) - Ultralisk

Persivul

(1) - Dunnstral

Not Voting

(4) - Persivul, Aj The Epic, Syryana, The Oxford Bubbles

With

7

players eligible to vote, it’s

4

to lynch!

Day 2 will end in

(expired on 2017-02-11 15:15:31).

Mod Notes:

None!

[borkjerfkin]

I don't want to lynch OA today. I feel I can work with them.

...? Okay, how so? Disregard that slot's been replaced and let's pretend we've got OA sitting around and lurking for a moment. How did you feel you were going to be able to work with OA? I got the exact opposite impression for obvious reasons.

I liked their approach. They seemed open. I feel if I'd wanted to reach out to them, they would have been willing to work with me.

~ Raven

keep in mind that we know for sure that TOB-OA/pers is NOT S-S now and this seems a lot more innocuous

[borkjerfkin]

Leantown: Seiko, Dunnstral (this one is stagnating a little too but not as much as charleyhorse)

why was dunn ever on the same tier as seiko here esp after pie's big post that got me (and ostensibly syr) to see that they were town

also the implicit "let's make sure we lynch charloux first"

[borkjerfkin]

????????
I don't have multiple abilities. I'm just a town bodyguard.
Flavor is Medivh.

I refuse to believe you have a role PM that says you're Medivh, town bodyguard. My PM has character, character flavor title, ability name, etc.

Somewhat questionable matching with flavor imo, medivh's W is a temporary damage nullification barrier on a player. I don't see how that fits bodyguard.

He's got plenty of options for investigative with raven form or blocking with either poly bomb or ley line seal, commute or redirect w/ portal.
bodyguard of all things for medivh seems really weird

This is a reasonable statement, but I'm more in tune with your earlier line of thought that Foxy had roles and fit picks to roles.

UNVOTE:

goddammit it's happening again

@Mod: you have 2 entries for Persivul in your vc

UNVOTE: for now.

S_S - claimed Medivh: bodyguard

This also looks like he got more turned around by my reaction than was overcome by a fit of paranoia. doesn't mention anything that was said, just the claim

[Persivul]

OK, I'm liking syry, and seiko's probably just going to tunnel me if phase continues, so:
VOTE: Ultralisk: Dunnstral
VOTE: Dunnstral

[Syryana]

pie, notty especially: I still feel like syr's play is mostly feeling out what everyone thinks around him and strategically voting vs actually attempting to solve the game.

I'll be honest; recent games have taught me that I have no clue how to play forum mafia anymore.

1) if he thinks seiko is town he can't possibly think this is good things at this point (could possibly mean that it shows dunn's alignment, as even i once thought, but dunn himself waved this off forever ago in 415)

I thought it was going to give Seiko an extra vote or something, I don't remember seeing anything to suggest otherwise?

Leantown: Seiko, Dunnstral (this one is stagnating a little too but not as much as charleyhorse)

why was dunn ever on the same tier as seiko here esp after pie's big post that got me (and ostensibly syr) to see that they were town

Because though piegirl made me feel better about the slot I didn't have them as a fullblown townread until notty came in later and obvtowned like a motherfucker. Piescum can eat my lunch and make me foot the bill, notty can't

Pedit: bork you're doing that thing you accused someone (Dunn I think?) of doing yesterday where you're fitting evidence to a conclusion

Dunn went from obvscum to obvtown once he claimed. The read stagnated significantly between my unvote and readslist, hence the tier as was

also the implicit "let's make sure we lynch charloux first"

At the time I would've lynched Charl over Dunn, yes.

[Syryana]

And what the hell Pers

[borkjerfkin]

Pedit: bork you're doing that thing you accused someone (Dunn I think?) of doing yesterday where you're fitting evidence to a conclusion

Oh?

[borkjerfkin]

Dunn reacted to me calling him scum and pushed a scum motivated case

I am working from a scum flip

[borkjerfkin]

obvtown

Obvtown huh

[Syryana]

I'm talking about your reasons for me-scum.

Pedit: Yes, obvtown.

[borkjerfkin]

Why is this confbias and not "i have more info today than i did yesterday"

[borkjerfkin]

What was obvtown about dunn

[Syryana]

Because you're wrong.

[borkjerfkin]

Oh he just hammered didnt he

[Syryana]

What was obvtown about dunn

I'll have to go look, sec

[Syryana]

Yes

[borkjerfkin]

Because you're wrong.

even if i'm wrong, you're accusing me of fitting evidence to a conclusion, not following evidence to the wrong conclusion. why?

[borkjerfkin]

i mean maybe i'm just wrong and it's pers i guess

pretty sure it's not TOB, not AJ
it's definitely not seiko. please don't vote seiko ever.