In Memory

[drealmerz7]

why would there be 2 scum in a hood with 3 people?

I guess because I'm harry houdini and I can escape ANYTHING

[Postie]

Ugh. I'm not nearly as sure about you being scum as I was last night but like there's so much that seems to

kind-of

just about make sense but also feels slightly off.

I really wish Klingon had been shot because it would make everything so much easier.

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: klingoncelt

[mhsmith0]

Fwiw, i plan to spend time rereading before reallly doing anything. Two flipped scum, a third probable flipped scum, there ought to be something useful there. Probably will do some vca while I'm at it too. But I'm lazy, so probably not until the weekend, MAYBE Friday.

[Postie]

why would there be 2 scum in a hood with 3 people?

I guess because I'm harry houdini and I can escape ANYTHING

I mean, why

wouldn't

there be two scum in a 3p hood? There's two hoods. If we could just assume there was only ever one scum in a hood then that would potentially leave us with 4 confirmed townies if the scum died first.

[drealmerz7]

I'm pretty sure that it is group scum and not SK that is left

too much power in town vs. what we've seen in the scumflips to not have it be 4party team, imo

[drealmerz7]

why would there be 2 scum in a hood with 3 people?

I guess because I'm harry houdini and I can escape ANYTHING

I mean, why

wouldn't

there be two scum in a 3p hood? There's two hoods. If we could just assume there was only ever one scum in a hood then that would potentially leave us with 4 confirmed townies if the scum died first.

ok

[Postie]

It would also potentially explain why zefiend didn't feel like talking in there. Being in a hood with a buddy of yours and a townie thirdwheeling has got to be an awkward situation.

[JaeReed]

drealmz when can you shoot again?

[mhsmith0]

It would also potentially explain why zefiend didn't feel like talking in there. Being in a hood with a buddy of yours and a townie thirdwheeling has got to be an awkward situation.

Fwiw I can confirm that this is something that zef has done before. No posted in a hood with me and anen and davsto, he and anen were th scum team. Tho iirc he had like 1 or 2 posts there I.e. ignoring the hood, as opposed to simply ghosting and pretending like it didn't exist.

[mhsmith0]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=65920
Was the link. One hello post and that was it.

[drealmerz7]

drealmz when can you shoot again?

N6

UNLESS YOU BOOST ME AND SOMETHING AWESOME HAPPENS

[Postie]

I mean it probably doesn't make all that much sense from a scum PoV either but if you're town here why would you give town evidence to support a reason you could be scum?

[mhsmith0]

Why wouldn't I? It's not my job to read myself correctly, and at any rate there's a difference between being super lazy about hood presence (like he was there) and literally pretending that you don't exist in the hood.

[Postie]

Why wouldn't I? It's not my job to read myself correctly

But it is your job to convince us you're town.

[drealmerz7]

smith is my 3rd strongest TR btw

[Postie]

there's a difference between being super lazy about hood presence (like he was there) and literally pretending that you don't exist in the hood

Who says he was being lazy there and not tactical? With the hood in this game being 3p instead of 4p, it would make sense that the lessened breathing room could make him resort to a more extreme version of what he did before.

[Postie]

smith is my 3rd strongest TR btw

Why?

[mhsmith0]

Why wouldn't I? It's not my job to read myself correctly

But it is your job to convince us you're town.

It's my job to give you the info you need to read me, and obviously to fight against bad cases against myself. Beyond that, not especially. Being town read is more important if I'm scum than if I'm town anyway.

[Postie]

It's my job to give you the info you need to read me

How does the info you brought up help us read you correctly?

[mhsmith0]

there's a difference between being super lazy about hood presence (like he was there) and literally pretending that you don't exist in the hood

Who says he was being lazy there and not tactical? With the hood in this game being 3p instead of 4p, it would make sense that the lessened breathing room could make him resort to a more extreme version of what he did before.

In that game I think it was clear he was being lazy and/or uncomfortable talking in the hood w his buddy also there (I was similarly lazy for similar reasons - I was a mason w Ircher, and was busy inmmason hood and game thread, especially day 1). There's no strategic benefit as either alignment to ditching your hood in an all hood game like that one (my play in that respect was poor too).

In this game, it wasn't so much a choice to not have MUCH hood presence as it was to pretend to not exist at all. The thought process there is different; obviously it was a tactical choice, but situationally it wasn't the same. It's also inherently weird that he'd have avoided hood if his buddy was Deimos (a newbie who might need help) or drealz (better to tag team the newbie). Tactically spying on hood chat and hoping for a pr slip or something seems a lot more natural as a strategy in that situation.

[drealmerz7]

smith is my 3rd strongest TR btw

Why?

I read a lot by tone/feel/gut/behavior of the players - he seems totally genuine, matter-of-fact, unphased because he has nothing to hide, town-intentioned

his hood interaction has been good, he's not buddyed me at all just talks to me like a player with no agenda other than to figure things out - I've felt trust towards him for a while and it waned a little there but once zefiend was outed as having been in the hood it all has fallen into place and maybe I should even him as 2nd TR for how I feel about trusting what he's saying / feel good about how he's doing this most recent interaction too

[mhsmith0]

It's my job to give you the info you need to read me

How does the info you brought up help us read you correctly?

It brings up the situation where zef acted in a hood before. Maybe it's as I suppose, and this is further clearing on me and drealz. Maybe I'm wrong, and it actually implicates drealz. Maybe it's a total non sequitur and shouldn't be read into at all. It's info. It's possibly useful. Why wouldn't I bring it up as town?

[drealmerz7]

he might not have been able to talk D1 in hood?

does the flip say I forget?

[mhsmith0]

He can't do anything first 7 days. D1 went a bit longer than that, so presumably he could have, just chose not to.