Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Sondam]

I don't think anything here for a pick is a scumclaim aslong as you bring a case for your actions nothing is never a scumclaim unless you pass up an amazing power and none of these are really amazing
~Maria

Really, there's two that I want and a third necessity for someone to get.

What do you think of Vecna?

What is the first line referring to?

He's being himself null bringing up obv statements that for some reason need explaining.

The first line refers to none of the powers being great. There's two awesome and a third necessity.

Why does Vecna over explaining mean null for you?

P.S. Math, we're going to talk on PerV. We're ignoring Vecna until dayphase starts, if not later.

He's saying something everyone should understand but doesn't so he explains it so null he's not doing much but stating obv facts.
Some of these powers have there ups yes but the cons outweigh the pros and we can just wait to get something better this isn't the last chance we'll get to vote on this
~Maria

[PeregrineV]

I didn't notice Vecna was the first one to say 5 either. To be fair, me, him, and Maria just finished a game together where there were 20+ players and we were on a scum team of 5.

9=2
12=3
16=4
20=5
24=6

Typical # of scum to balance a game of the given size. May vary.

And considering Undertale and theme game you

really

think this is valid?

FoS Vecna and PV.

~~Math

Hell yes.

Pointing to an exception does not make it the rule.

[Sondam]

We won't let cowardly scientists determine our actions. They may feature low cunning but they are incapable of decisive action. What we need is leadership. Oppenheimer may have discovered the atomic bomb, but it was Truman who authorized the launches. We have to make the hard calls ourselves. Never let the scientists tell you the odds. We the hardworking, the talented, the men and women with true grit and determination, will choose and live with our decisions.

I like this guy
~Maria

[Leonshade]

Govern: None

None is now ineligible for a vote. You must now pick between sciences and arts.

I'll stop fluffposting once the resolution is over.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Albert is in this game? Holy shit

[The DEO]

@mod: Assume no one builds a wonder. Can we build ancient era stuff in later ages?

~~Math

[Sondam]

Leon is scum by the way he's already acting way dif then he was in dota mafia.
~Maria

[Vecna]

I didn't notice Vecna was the first one to say 5 either. To be fair, me, him, and Maria just finished a game together where there were 20+ players and we were on a scum team of 5.

9=2
12=3
16=4
20=5
24=6

Typical # of scum to balance a game of the given size. May vary.

And considering Undertale and theme game you

really

think this is valid?

FoS Vecna and PV.

~~Math

Its a theme-game where all players have equal opportunities at the same power-level. Why wouldnt a standard distribution be used?

If this is really the level of reads I can expect from you guys this game ill feel cheated after having to deal with the real deal last game.

[The DEO]

I didn't notice Vecna was the first one to say 5 either. To be fair, me, him, and Maria just finished a game together where there were 20+ players and we were on a scum team of 5.

9=2
12=3
16=4
20=5
24=6

Typical # of scum to balance a game of the given size. May vary.

And considering Undertale and theme game you

really

think this is valid?

FoS Vecna and PV.

~~Math

Its a theme-game where all players have equal opportunities at the same power-level. Why wouldnt a standard distribution be used?

If this is really the level of reads I can expect from you guys this game ill feel cheated after having to deal with the real deal last game.

If last game means Double Deck I hope to never relive how much time I spent on fail island. Titus however was good.

~~Math

[Vecna]

When did I put it at L-1? I was already voting none. 8 + 1 = 9. 11-9 = L-2. Basic fucking math. IF you ca'nt do math you shouldn't be voting science.

You people...

[The DEO]

Because we don't know how these wonders work.

There is so much we don't know. To assume standard distribution is a flawed starting point IMHO.

~~Math

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I think they're pretty self explanatory.

[The DEO]

Math, ignore Vecna for now.

Albert might be town.

~Titus

[Sondam]

Being able to see things before we can build let's scum plan how they want to do this make arguments and steer things the way they think is best
If we don't know something they don't know something and it's much better that way this won't be the last time we can fund something so let's just wait for something better
~Maria

[Nahdia]

@mod: Assume no one builds a wonder. Can we build ancient era stuff in later ages?

~~Math

Wonders can only be built in their respective era.

[beeboy]

I am keeping this short and sweet and everyone not voting science can explain to me where I am going wrong.

None: We deny ourselves a power for the entire duration of a 3 month game because we want to enter day 1 faster, yay?
Art: Sure we get more powers to choose from but most voting powers favor scum more than town, Governer, Double Voter and Vote thief type effects.
Sciences: We literally just get more info.


None just seems lazy to me, Art seems pro scum and I don't see a con with science. I am open for more opinions but I don't know why anyone is voting something else.

[Sondam]

Take it from a group of people who did all the planning they needed for a scum win
And take it from the people who had to deal with it on the town side aswell town lost both times a ton of planning was put into something along these lines
(Pick your power and the thing)
This is a no go
~Maria

[Vecna]

What do we not know about how the wonders work though?

Seems like a pretty straightforward mechanic so far. You built it, you get the power

[Leonshade]

Sciences

or none imo Arts helps scum way more than town.

I'm leaning Sciences

so we can all do planning but that could end in mass chaos
~Maria

VOTE: None
Yes science helps town but it also helps scum a lot to plan I'd rather leave the game state as it is there's more town then scum these don't help us and we can get better why give scum any wiggle room at all
~Maria

He's saying

something everyone should understand but doesn't

so he explains it so null he's not doing much but stating obv facts.
Some of these powers have there ups yes but the cons outweigh the pros and we can just wait to get something better this isn't the last chance we'll get to vote on this
~Maria

Leans sciences. Changes mind. Discredits those favoring sciences as stupid.

[Leonshade]

Because we don't know how these wonders work.

There is so much we don't know. To assume standard distribution is a

flawed starting point

IMHO.

~~Math

It may be flawed, but does that make it scummy?

[Vecna]

I am keeping this short and sweet and everyone not voting science can explain to me where I am going wrong.

None: We deny ourselves a power for the entire duration of a 3 month game because we want to enter day 1 faster, yay?
Art: Sure we get more powers to choose from but most voting powers favor scum more than town, Governer, Double Voter and Vote thief type effects.
Sciences: We literally just get more info.


None just seems lazy to me, Art seems pro scum and I don't see a con with science. I am open for more opinions but I don't know why anyone is voting something else.

Its been explained about 17 times so far....

[Sondam]

Sciences

or none imo Arts helps scum way more than town.

I'm leaning Sciences

so we can all do planning but that could end in mass chaos
~Maria

VOTE: None
Yes science helps town but it also helps scum a lot to plan I'd rather leave the game state as it is there's more town then scum these don't help us and we can get better why give scum any wiggle room at all
~Maria

He's saying

something everyone should understand but doesn't

so he explains it so null he's not doing much but stating obv facts.
Some of these powers have there ups yes but the cons outweigh the pros and we can just wait to get something better this isn't the last chance we'll get to vote on this
~Maria

Leans sciences. Changes mind. Discredits those favoring sciences as stupid.

Interesting when I call you out you just post this funny how it works. I said I was leaning science yes but given the arguments and logic shown it's outright stupid

[The DEO]

Because we don't know how these wonders work.

There is so much we don't know. To assume standard distribution is a

flawed starting point

IMHO.

~~Math

It may be flawed, but does that make it scummy?

Vecna 50/50
PV hell yes

~~Math

[The DEO]

@mod: Assume no one builds a wonder. Can we build ancient era stuff in later ages?

~~Math

Wonders can only be built in their respective era.

Thanks Nahdia.

So then waiting is just ridiculous. So the arguments are shit and trying to hurt Town so we have less PRs. Got it.

~~Math

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I am keeping this short and sweet and everyone not voting science can explain to me where I am going wrong.

None: We deny ourselves a power for the entire duration of a 3 month game because we want to enter day 1 faster, yay?
Art: Sure we get more powers to choose from but most voting powers favor scum more than town, Governer, Double Voter and Vote thief type effects.
Sciences: We literally just get more info.


None just seems lazy to me, Art seems pro scum and I don't see a con with science. I am open for more opinions but I don't know why anyone is voting something else.

Short and sweet? Why? Have somewhere to go?