Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Vecna]

To be fair though, scum is most likely voting none after my first post to avoid drawing attention to themselves.

Maybe 1, max 2 wifom'ing it up by voting science or even art.

[beeboy]

Its been explained about 17 times so far....

I disagree with the belief science helps scum strategize more than town.
Like we are all VTs anyway or so my understanding of this setup goes so I don't see what we lose.

[beeboy]

Like a scum sees a cop action coming up what can scum do about that, that we can't do.

[beeboy]

No wonder powers so far have been 1-shot actions either so I also don't feel like playing around that either. (Also if we see a blocked cop whoever takes a roleblocker power would obviously be conf scum.)

Also I am assuming whoever takes the treestump power is scum and will ignore them.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Play around it.

[Vecna]

Im not going to tell scum what they can do to gain an advantage.

Ive thought about it, I see a VERY CLEAR/STRONG way to abuse it.

Those that have played with me before know that im pretty decent at theorizing working scum plans.

Scum gain a BIG advantage with science.

Theres other reasons that have not been mentioned yet. Im not going to mention them.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I think the tree stump power is arguable the best one depending on who takes it.

[Nahdia]

Resolution Vote 1.04

Sciences (2):

The DEO, Akane and Nebby

Arts (2):

Maxous, PeregrineV

None (8):

Lil Uzi Vert, Vecna, Sondam, Spiffeh, Albert B. Rampage, Fro99er, Elbirn, Leonshade

Not Voting (9):

Nero Cain, Yuri, beeboy, Creature, Drixx, Julius Caesar, ssbm_Kyouko, ooba, NoticeMeSenpai

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to pass a resolution by majority.
Resolution deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-14 10:05:30), at which point the resolution will be decided via plurality.

[Sondam]

Im not going to tell scum what they can do to gain an advantage.

Ive thought about it, I see a VERY CLEAR/STRONG way to abuse it.

Those that have played with me before know that im pretty decent at theorizing working scum plans.

Scum gain a BIG advantage with science.

Theres other reasons that have not been mentioned yet. Im not going to mention them.

I would think people in pick your power would understand best why nothing is the best pick after that buttt
~Maria

[Fro99er]

No wonder powers so far have been 1-shot actions either so I also don't feel like playing around that either. (Also if we see a blocked cop whoever takes a roleblocker power would obviously be conf scum.)

Also I am assuming whoever takes the treestump power is scum and will ignore them.

But are they 1-shot?

Some of the powers say "each night"

[Leonshade]

Sciences

or none imo Arts helps scum way more than town.

I'm leaning Sciences

so we can all do planning but that could end in mass chaos
~Maria

VOTE: None
Yes science helps town but it also helps scum a lot to plan I'd rather leave the game state as it is there's more town then scum these don't help us and we can get better why give scum any wiggle room at all
~Maria

He's saying

something everyone should understand but doesn't

so he explains it so null he's not doing much but stating obv facts.
Some of these powers have there ups yes but the cons outweigh the pros and we can just wait to get something better this isn't the last chance we'll get to vote on this
~Maria

Leans sciences. Changes mind. Discredits those favoring sciences as stupid.

Interesting when I call you out you just post this funny how it works. I said I was leaning science yes but given the arguments and logic shown it's outright stupid

Your read on me has nothing to do with this.

To be fair though, scum is most likely voting none after my first post to avoid drawing attention to themselves.

Maybe 1, max 2 wifom'ing it up by voting science or even art.

Yup, blending in is scummier than drawing attention to yourself by fighting a losing battle.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Im not going to tell scum what they can do to gain an advantage.

Ive thought about it, I see a VERY CLEAR/STRONG way to abuse it.

Those that have played with me before know that im pretty decent at theorizing working scum plans.

Scum gain a BIG advantage with science.

Theres other reasons that have not been mentioned yet. Im not going to mention them.

I would think people in pick your power would understand best why nothing is the best pick after that buttt
~Maria

Titus is stubborn

[Fro99er]

(Also if we see a blocked cop whoever takes a roleblocker power would obviously be conf scum.)

But how will we know who took a roleblocker?

[Leonshade]

No wonder powers so far have been 1-shot actions either so I also don't feel like playing around that either. (Also if we see a blocked cop whoever takes a roleblocker power would obviously be conf scum.)

Also I am assuming whoever takes the treestump power is scum and will ignore them.

That's why a townie should try to take it, to block scum from getting it.

[beeboy]

(Also if we see a blocked cop whoever takes a roleblocker power would obviously be conf scum.)

But how will we know who took a roleblocker?

Whoever doesn't claim a power.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Why would you claim?

[Fro99er]

(Also if we see a blocked cop whoever takes a roleblocker power would obviously be conf scum.)

But how will we know who took a roleblocker?

Whoever doesn't claim a power.

That could still leave us a pool of several people.

[beeboy]

Wouldn't you assume a mass claim in inevitable?

[beeboy]

(Also if we see a blocked cop whoever takes a roleblocker power would obviously be conf scum.)

But how will we know who took a roleblocker?

Whoever doesn't claim a power.

That could still leave us a pool of several people.

This is fair.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Tree stump is negative utility for scum in my opinion

[beeboy]

No wonder powers so far have been 1-shot actions either so I also don't feel like playing around that either. (Also if we see a blocked cop whoever takes a roleblocker power would obviously be conf scum.)

Also I am assuming whoever takes the treestump power is scum and will ignore them.

That's why a townie should try to take it, to block scum from getting it.

I guess that is true.
I just think we will get more powers if our day 1 powers are an investigative, doctor and a redirecting BP

[Spiffeh]

Take it from a group of people who did all the planning they needed for a scum win
And take it from the people who had to deal with it on the town side aswell town lost both times a ton of planning was put into something along these lines
(Pick your power and the thing)
This is a no go
~Maria

We are the true victims of the Thing endgame

No one else will ever understand

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Wouldn't you assume a mass claim in inevitable?

No, we won't know if it will be needed. Hell for all we know, we could win the game by Day 4.

[The DEO]

Yuck. The only player that should claim tomorrow is Stonehenge and Treestump. Maybe not Stonehenge.

[Fro99er]

Wouldn't you assume a mass claim in inevitable?

maybe

I can see town reasons for keeping certain powers hidden. Like not telling someone you and someone else are in a neighborhood. Especially if you can confirm each other with another power. Then you act as like masons.