Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I'm not. I literally don't care to see what Wonders are coming up and I don't know why anyone else would. All it will do is get us in to a +15 page discussion on the pros and cons of each and why someone is either scum or town for liking one more than the other.

Few things.
A. Didn't you say you knew better wonders were coming up?
B. What is wrong with discussion on why someone is scum or town for liking one wonder more then the other?

-Nebby

A.) I do. I just can't talk about it, my role PM permits me from doing so.
B.) Your slot, The DEO, etc. People are going to pick Wonders based on what appeals most to them and suits their strengths. It's NAI.

[Fro99er]

The main thing that gives me pause about Yuri!scum is Maxous.

At least of those two is definitely scum.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

The main thing that gives me pause about Yuri!scum is Maxous.

At least of those two is definitely scum.

Why Max? I can see Yuri.

[The DEO]

I want math to explain how that is a scumslip.
-Nebby

Why would Town have a "need" of having things only go to a certain point?

Why would Town "drop it" there?

Why would if Town coaching be phrased like that?

I do not see two or one townies do this.

This is scum trying to control the situation because the "need" has been met.
~~Math

[Creature]

Currently the other two players I want to vote are more likely to be scum and would like them to be competing wagons.

[Akane and Nebby]

The main thing that gives me pause about Yuri!scum is Maxous.

At least of those two is definitely scum.

I agree!
I think we're going to be friends Frogger

-Nebby

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Spiffeh

Yup.
Felt some of his arguments came across a little disingenuous, didn't like some of his passive-aggressive scumreads and didn't like his fear mongering because of how a town lost a previous game. Felt off
Random vote on Nero doesn't help

Which posts did you feel came across disingenuous?

I don't know what you mean by "passive-aggressive scumreads" as I haven't really made public any scum reads. I barely even have any to begin with. The only person I really expressed suspicion of at any point was Titus for wanting to pick Science.

Also, you don't think previous experience with a similar mechanic isn't something I should draw from when deciding how to proceed? You can call it fear mongering, but I think it's weird to jump to a buzzword rather than look at my actual arguments and see if they're plausible.

[Akane and Nebby]

I want math to explain how that is a scumslip.
-Nebby

Why would Town have a "need" of having things only go to a certain point?

Why would Town "drop it" there?

Why would if Town coaching be phrased like that?

I do not see two or one townies do this.

This is scum trying to control the situation because the "need" has been met.
~~Math

I'll talk to Akane about it.

-Nebby

[Fro99er]

Is no one gonna point out that the {X, Y} thing is a terrible plan that still gives scum a 50% chance of hitting the PR they want to kill, and a chance to try again for 100% the next night?

Stop announcing PRs. And you also can't select two and say 'no one else take them'. That guarantees one won't get picked. And tells the scum you're either a doctor or a neighbourizer. They'll nightkill EITHER.
Just pick with your playstyle and if you miss out, try again the next day with higher priority for you.

I'm gonna townread you just for this

Why are you townreading me for my common-sense mechanics post?

Is no one gonna point out that the {X, Y} thing is a terrible plan that still gives scum a 50% chance of hitting the PR they want to kill, and a chance to try again for 100% the next night?

Stop announcing PRs. And you also can't select two and say 'no one else take them'. That guarantees one won't get picked. And tells the scum you're either a doctor or a neighbourizer. They'll nightkill EITHER.
Just pick with your playstyle and if you miss out, try again the next day with higher priority for you.

I'm gonna townread you just for this

I'm gonna scumread you just for this

@LUV - Because Yuri and I thought that post by Maxous was gross at the exact same time. It was a really shallow read.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I can see why he would town read Yuri based on that though. It's weak for sure but I didn't get scummy vibes from that compared to his opening post.

[Fro99er]

I want math to explain how that is a scumslip.
-Nebby

Why would Town have a "need" of having things only go to a certain point?

Why would Town "drop it" there?

Why would if Town coaching be phrased like that?

I do not see two or one townies do this.

This is scum trying to control the situation because the "need" has been met.
~~Math

No.

This is me trying to stop a pissing war between drixx and Vecna.

I've seen drixx nearly get kicked out of games for pissing wars and I'm fucking sick of pissing war games. Sick of it. It's why I siteflaked the first time a year ago.

[Nahdia]

Lynch Vote 1.01

Lil Uzi Vert (2):

Akane and Nebby, Sondam

Nero Cain (2):

Spiffeh, Creature

Spiffeh (1):

Maxous

Yuri (1):

The DEO

Leonshade (1):

Lil Uzi Vert

Not Voting (14):

Fro99er, Nero Cain, Yuri, beeboy, Leonshade, Elbirn, Drixx, Julius Caesar, Vecna, ssbm_Kyouko, ooba, PeregrineV, NoticeMeSenpai, Albert B. Rampage

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

This game needs more Pine.

[Fro99er]

Titus, get mathblade in order.

[Spiffeh]

I voted for Nero because his posts during the Resolution Phase looked like he posted them just to seem like he was participating in the discussion.

I don't really want to do none. Like its safe and doesn't change anything. I feel like Arts, eventhough I realize that it could backfire on town, could really help too.

if you don't know what any of them do why is one better than the other?

The first of these posts amounts to no conclusion either way. Particularly the "arts could backfire but could also really help" doesn't really show depth in thinking, so I don't really see the need to post it if no real conclusion was drawn?
The second is basically a throw away question (you can check the context yourself).

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I don't agree with the last one. It was very odd for Creature to state he didn't know what either did and then imply that Arts and Sciences is better.

[Akane and Nebby]

Spiffeh, going by that, wouldn't it be better for scum!Nero to not post at all?
Like, some people DID get away with that.

With that said I do agree with you and I also like the fact that you're poking Nero right now.

-Nebby

[Spiffeh]

PeregrineV is my number one town read and I doubt that will ever change.

I got town vibes from Titus, Drixx, Vecna, Akane and Nebby, probably some others I'm forgetting

I don't really have any scum reads other than Nero. A bulk of the players significantly engaging with the Resolution decision seemed pretty town to me.

[Creature]

Arts and Science felt like town powerups, therefore None seemed like a waste.

[Spiffeh]

Spiffeh, going by that, wouldn't it be better for scum!Nero to not post at all?
Like, some people DID get away with that.

With that said I do agree with you and I also like the fact that you're poking Nero right now.

-Nebby

It's very unlikely that all scum would just avoid the phase altogether. Nero had what I feel is the scummiest contribution so far.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Arts and Science felt like town powerups, therefore None seemed like a waste.

I don't know how you could've gotten that if you didn't know what they were.

[Akane and Nebby]

Arts and Science felt like town powerups, therefore None seemed like a waste.

I don't know how you could've gotten that if you didn't know what they were.

I was about to mention this, but then you beat me to it.
-Nebby

[Creature]

Meh, I'll just keep posting irrelevant stuff and useless observations.

[Creature]

Arts and Science felt like town powerups, therefore None seemed like a waste.

I don't know how you could've gotten that if you didn't know what they were.

Sounded like:

Arts and Science = Draft
None = No draft therefore no roles

[Spiffeh]

I'm null on Nero. I really liked his 453.

What about that post did you like?