Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Vecna]

The only reason to pass on day chat would be because they hope something better will come along later. Day chat is like one of the main advantages scum have on this site (and the site statistics back it up). The idea that they would pass on it (remember: they can only build it today ... if they pass on it, then presumably it's gone forever {excepting if multiple wonders repeat the same effect, which would be lazy and I know Nahdia isn't}) just because Science lets them plan what buildings to try for at night ... is just plain absurd. Planning which buildings to take is like priority level negative (insert really large integer) compared to what scum can use day chat to coordinate. The whole argument is so over the top ridiculous that I'm seriously wondering if Vecna is just trolling me at this point.

I agree daychat is very powerful, which was my main concern for not wanting science in the first place.

I think what Vecna is saying is that if science is chosen, then they can pass on choosing day chat to try to block off as many of the other D1 wonders that only town can grab, thereby limiting town's power a bit more. They can coordinate at night, knowing they get to choose that night from D1 wonders also with knowledge of what D2 wonders are. So it's not about waiting for powers as much as limiting town's powers on D1.

I'm not sure if that's enough of an argument to make me want to choose none, because I also buy your science argument. I think titus and spiffeh are town. I thought you were town on your first post, but then the back and forth with you and Vecna I have no idea. I've also never seen scum!drixx play. I'm town and if you, titus, spiffeh, ABR are town, we're going to win this. It'll be like mafiaception, but with titus on our side.

Scum w/ Vecna likely found.

Daychat and science are not related. Daychat is powerful in its own right. In fact daychat and science together leads for more ways for scum to possibly slip. And there is very little chance scum pass on daychat. If they do they are idiots and will summarily be lynched anyway. In other words not worried about a scum no daychat world. Because Titus and I will catch them.

~~Math

After these last posts from your head my faith in that is slowly dissipating.

[Sondam]

I did sr uzi but then I went to sleep and forgot what the sr was for....eh
VOTE: Max

Btw Vecna I don't really see that but then again you were around with him longer what are the dif's you're seeing?
~Maria

Fake read like I thought.

I don't think your scum though.

Mother fucker do you want me to put my vote back on you cause it wasn't fucking fake
~Maria

You can after you sheep me on Leon

Works for me
VOTE: Leon

[Nahdia]

Lynch Vote 1.02

Leonshade (2):

Lil Uzi Vert, Sondam

Nero Cain (2):

Spiffeh, Creature

Maxous (1):

Fro99er

Lil Uzi Vert (1):

Akane and Nebby

Spiffeh (1):

Maxous

Yuri (1):

The DEO

Not Voting (13):

Nero Cain, Yuri, beeboy, Leonshade, Elbirn, Drixx, Julius Caesar, Vecna, ssbm_Kyouko, ooba, PeregrineV, NoticeMeSenpai, Albert B. Rampage

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.

[Spiffeh]

Also, you don't think previous experience with a similar mechanic isn't something I should draw from when deciding how to proceed? You can call it fear mongering,

but I think it's weird to jump to a buzzword rather than look at my actual arguments and see if they're plausible.

literally your entire "argument" was don't give scum a roadmap to kills because it imploded in the Thing game.
so what am i supposed to be debating?
IMO, you over-played it

as for the passive-aggressive stuff

Spoiler:

The fact that Titus is not acknowledging the concerns for Sciences that a few of us have raised and keeps harping on "but we could do this with these roles!!!" is concerning.

beeboy why are all the things you are saying so aggressively wrong

felt like they were overly non-comittal potshots at people.

What's your issue with this reasoning? What do you mean by "overplaying"? Yes I said it multiple times and tried to convince people to vote my way. That's what I do when I feel strongly about something.

I don't know how you could view what I said about Titus as "non-committal". I was very much calling her out on why I felt her reasoning for wanting Science was concerning.

The beeboy thing was basically a douchier way of saying I disagreed with pretty much everything he was saying.

[Vecna]

Scum w/ Vecna likely found.

Are you kidding me?

I was explain Vecna's POV. I didn't support it. In fact, I voted the other way and said I don't think Vecna's explanation is enough to make me want none.

Trying to distance himself from me because he thinks he might not like my flip? If so, townslip - scum would know that its not required.

[Sondam]

Micky be my mason partner I promise I aren't no magna
~Maria

[Akane and Nebby]

I did sr uzi but then I went to sleep and forgot what the sr was for....eh
VOTE: Max

Btw Vecna I don't really see that but then again you were around with him longer what are the dif's you're seeing?
~Maria

Fake read like I thought.

I don't think your scum though.

Mother fucker do you want me to put my vote back on you cause it wasn't fucking fake
~Maria

You can after you sheep me on Leon

Works for me
VOTE: Leon

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT?

-Nebby

[Sondam]

I did sr uzi but then I went to sleep and forgot what the sr was for....eh
VOTE: Max

Btw Vecna I don't really see that but then again you were around with him longer what are the dif's you're seeing?
~Maria

Fake read like I thought.

I don't think your scum though.

Mother fucker do you want me to put my vote back on you cause it wasn't fucking fake
~Maria

You can after you sheep me on Leon

Works for me
VOTE: Leon

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT?

-Nebby

a vote.

[Akane and Nebby]

Naaaaaaaaaaaah.
You get added to my lynchpool for that shit.

-Nebby

[Sondam]

oooo scary what's next you gonna vote me?
~Maria

[Akane and Nebby]

The pool of very acceptable lynches:
Jesus, Yuri, Maxous, Creature, Uzi, Sondam

-Nebby

[Vecna]

I did sr uzi but then I went to sleep and forgot what the sr was for....eh
VOTE: Max

Btw Vecna I don't really see that but then again you were around with him longer what are the dif's you're seeing?
~Maria

He feels way more daring and aggresive in his approach this game. He's more open about how he feels and is way moe opinionated, and he uses his hatred for mechanics discussion as an honest reasoning for some of his actions, but he doesnt use it as an excuse for why his play is lacking or why he's less active.

[Vecna]

I did sr uzi but then I went to sleep and forgot what the sr was for....eh
VOTE: Max

Btw Vecna I don't really see that but then again you were around with him longer what are the dif's you're seeing?
~Maria

Fake read like I thought.

I don't think your scum though.

Mother fucker do you want me to put my vote back on you cause it wasn't fucking fake
~Maria

[Lil Uzi Vert]

The pool of very acceptable lynches:
Yuri.
-Nebby

Fixed.

[Akane and Nebby]

oooo scary what's next you gonna vote me?
~Maria

My name is Nebby. I evolve into a fucking LION
Hear me rawr

Rawr
-Nebby

[Vecna]

I did sr uzi but then I went to sleep and forgot what the sr was for....eh
VOTE: Max

Btw Vecna I don't really see that but then again you were around with him longer what are the dif's you're seeing?
~Maria

Fake read like I thought.

I don't think your scum though.

Mother fucker do you want me to put my vote back on you cause it wasn't fucking fake
~Maria

You can after you sheep me on Leon

See, this is the exact type of stuff I mean. Nowhere in the entire PYP game did he ever make comments like this.

I dont think im ever gonna vote this slot the entire game.

Luv you have my permission to remind me of this post if I ever do. Gimme a good kick in the nuts and call me to my senses if you will

[beeboy]

VOTE: Uzi

I'd vote Uzi.

[Akane and Nebby]

The pool of very acceptable lynches:
Yuri.
-Nebby

Fixed.

And you're voting Leon...
-Nebby

[Akane and Nebby]

VOTE: Uzi

I'd vote Uzi.

Why?
-Nebby

[Vecna]

I did sr uzi but then I went to sleep and forgot what the sr was for....eh
VOTE: Max

Btw Vecna I don't really see that but then again you were around with him longer what are the dif's you're seeing?
~Maria

Fake read like I thought.

I don't think your scum though.

Mother fucker do you want me to put my vote back on you cause it wasn't fucking fake
~Maria

You can after you sheep me on Leon

Works for me
VOTE: Leon

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT?

-Nebby

Its called a town interaction

[Lil Uzi Vert]

The pool of very acceptable lynches:
Yuri.
-Nebby

Fixed.

And you're voting Leon...
-Nebby

Yeah because he's my strongest scum read.

[Vecna]

The pool of very acceptable lynches:
Jesus, Yuri, Maxous, Creature, Uzi, Sondam

-Nebby

You can do better

[beeboy]

I'm null on Nero. I really liked his 453.

I did sr uzi but then I went to sleep and forgot what the sr was for....eh
VOTE: Max

Btw Vecna I don't really see that but then again you were around with him longer what are the dif's you're seeing?
~Maria

Fake read like I thought.

I don't think your scum though.

I didn't like these.

[Akane and Nebby]

The pool of very acceptable lynches:
Yuri.
-Nebby

Fixed.

And you're voting Leon...
-Nebby

Yeah because he's my strongest scum read.

Wouldn't have you added him to the pool of "Acceptable lynches" then?
-Nebby

[Akane and Nebby]

I'm null on Nero. I really liked his 453.

I did sr uzi but then I went to sleep and forgot what the sr was for....eh
VOTE: Max

Btw Vecna I don't really see that but then again you were around with him longer what are the dif's you're seeing?
~Maria

Fake read like I thought.

I don't think your scum though.

I didn't like these.

Because?
-Nebby